Grande Punto @ 5Lacs, Linea @ 6.5Lacs, Shock Pricing

sushanthr77 · 25th July 2007, 11:39

If this is really the pricing, then we can expect to see a lot of Fiats on our roads in the future.

6.5L for Linea (base) sounds like the Ford Fiesta 1.4 territory. I am sure SX4, Aveo, Fiesta and NHC will have a tough challenge from a Fiat!

G Punto will be a success in most markets simply because of its looks. Coupled with a good package, this (IMHO) might turn out to be the most modded car (like the Lancer) in India!

We need great competition like this from every manufacturer. The quality of the cars will increase this way. The customer will be the ultimate winner.

madan80 · 25th July 2007, 12:11

wow! if these are the pricings - then im getting a linea!

neoonwheels · 25th July 2007, 12:17

Let the price be nething between 6L - 8 L... Linea is my next set of wheels.. Kudos to FIAT for such a nice car...

deepakhon · 25th July 2007, 12:33

I read this too. The MD of Fiat India has said that they were localising around 85% of engine components to make sure that they will be able to price Punto and Linea competitively. But he never indicated any price range. ACI has gone ahead and speculated that the prices are to range from 5 l for Punto and 6.5 l for Linea. If these indeed are the prices, then Fiat is spot on.

But, I have my doubts on Punto, because Fiat needs to work a little more on the bumpers to bring Punto in the small car range. This means that they might end up tampering with the present looks, which is the trump card of the car. I do not think they will be able to price it at 5 l if they do not bring it under the small car bracket. Linea's pricing looks fine and doable to me, but I am a little doubtful on Punto's pricing.

However, we need to see how the Brazilian Punto comes up. Apparently, there are some subtle differences between that and the European Punto, the main one being that the B Punto has larger boot volume as compared to E Punto. It will be very interesting to know how long the B Punto is. If it is under 4m mark, rest assured, Indian Punto will be exactly the same one as B Punto. Otherwise, it will be interesting to know what Fiat India does with the bumpers.

PS1: According to italiaspeed.com, Fiat Brazil is considering working on the Adventure model of Punto too.
PS2: I am in the market for cars next year

BUSA · 25th July 2007, 12:51

The lenght of the Punto is 4030mm

Source : Wiki

roopakr · 25th July 2007, 13:02

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The MD of Fiat India has said that they were localising around 85% of engine components to make sure that they will be able to price Punto and Linea competitively

Hope the 85% localisation ,does not eat the real power and identity of FIAT'S solid engine...

deepakhon · 25th July 2007, 13:02

@BUSA: The pic you have posted is not the Brazilian Punto. It is that of the European Punto. The B Punto has blackened B Pillars aka Suzuki Swift and the new Skoda Fabia. Also, the fog lamp is a little different in shape. The E Punto is 4030 mm, no doubt, but I am interested to know about the length of B Punto.

To view the B Punto, visit the site ::ITALIASPEED::. It is there in one of the news items. But the article does not mention anything about the length.

amit · 25th July 2007, 13:05

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The MD of Fiat India has said that they were localising around 85% of engine components to make sure that they will be able to price Punto and Linea competitively. But he never indicated any price range.

I was just about to put that down. The prices are ACI estimates unless the Fiat MD said something off the record to them

. The ACI price estimate is very simple. They benchmarked the Punto against the Swift and the Linea against the SX4 and came up with these prices. BUT, both the GP and Linea are far larger cars then the Swift and SX4. Still, 5 lacs for a base punto means the MJD 90bhp variant (hopefully!) should be at about 6.5 lacs on road?

I hope someone from Fiat India is going through this thread. The number of members saying they will buy these cars at these prices will give them a good target which they can work to achieve.

If the GP does come in at Rs. 5 lacs for base then what price point would Tata launch the Indica V3? I am guessing the Indica and Punto will be priced more or less at the same levels but the Indica's will have more features at those price levels.

theMAG · 25th July 2007, 13:16

How much of salt should this information be taken with ?

iraghava · 25th July 2007, 13:35

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Originally Posted by theMAG

How much of salt should this information be taken with ?

A bucketful should do I suppose.

devarshi84 · 25th July 2007, 13:40

guys, the launch is still 1 year away. Too much will change by then.

A new Honda city, maybe a new Sx4 too and Linea will be probably one year old.

tsk1979 · 25th July 2007, 13:46

5 Lakh(ex showroom) for a 1.2 l large hatch is not unbelievable.
I guess the MJD will come for 6+, which puts it in fusion territory.
So it would be competing against a swift D/Getz D (5-5.5 lakh ex showroom) along with something from Tata (4.5-5 lakh) ex showroom
Probably linea will sell at Verna price, and corner some market, but the general car buying populace mentality(not TBHP) is that
"Hatch for 6.5L ex showroom? forget it."

typeOnegative · 25th July 2007, 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

....but the general car buying populace mentality(not TBHP) is that
"Hatch for 6.5L ex showroom? forget it."

You are wrong there. The mentality is:

Fiat? Forget it.

tsk1979 · 25th July 2007, 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by typeOnegative

You are wrong there. The mentality is:

Fiat? Forget it.

If company is serious, that can change. 3 years ago somebody thinking of a petrol Tata would have been sent to a psychiatrist by well wishers

amit · 25th July 2007, 16:32

Mid 2008 Fiat will launch the Grande Punto in India with a 1.2 and a 1.4 L Petrol engine.

Next summer, Fiat will launch the Grande Punto in Europe with a 1.4L Turbo 120 and 150 HP Petrol engine.

Scoop: Fiat Grande Punto 1.4 Turbo caught testing.

25th July 2007, 11:39	#46
sushanthr77 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mangalore / DXB Posts: 280 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	If this is really the pricing, then we can expect to see a lot of Fiats on our roads in the future. 6.5L for Linea (base) sounds like the Ford Fiesta 1.4 territory. I am sure SX4, Aveo, Fiesta and NHC will have a tough challenge from a Fiat! G Punto will be a success in most markets simply because of its looks. Coupled with a good package, this (IMHO) might turn out to be the most modded car (like the Lancer) in India! We need great competition like this from every manufacturer. The quality of the cars will increase this way. The customer will be the ultimate winner.
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25th July 2007, 12:11	#47
madan80 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 1,360 Thanked: 80 Times View My Garage	wow! if these are the pricings - then im getting a linea!
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25th July 2007, 12:17	#48
neoonwheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 2,065 Thanked: 1,877 Times View My Garage	Let the price be nething between 6L - 8 L... Linea is my next set of wheels.. Kudos to FIAT for such a nice car...
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25th July 2007, 12:33	#49
deepakhon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,441 Thanked: 65 Times	I read this too. The MD of Fiat India has said that they were localising around 85% of engine components to make sure that they will be able to price Punto and Linea competitively. But he never indicated any price range. ACI has gone ahead and speculated that the prices are to range from 5 l for Punto and 6.5 l for Linea. If these indeed are the prices, then Fiat is spot on. But, I have my doubts on Punto, because Fiat needs to work a little more on the bumpers to bring Punto in the small car range. This means that they might end up tampering with the present looks, which is the trump card of the car. I do not think they will be able to price it at 5 l if they do not bring it under the small car bracket. Linea's pricing looks fine and doable to me, but I am a little doubtful on Punto's pricing. However, we need to see how the Brazilian Punto comes up. Apparently, there are some subtle differences between that and the European Punto, the main one being that the B Punto has larger boot volume as compared to E Punto. It will be very interesting to know how long the B Punto is. If it is under 4m mark, rest assured, Indian Punto will be exactly the same one as B Punto. Otherwise, it will be interesting to know what Fiat India does with the bumpers. PS1: According to italiaspeed.com, Fiat Brazil is considering working on the Adventure model of Punto too. PS2: I am in the market for cars next year Last edited by deepakhon : 25th July 2007 at 12:35.
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25th July 2007, 12:51	#50
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	The lenght of the Punto is 4030mm Source : Wiki Last edited by BUSA : 25th July 2007 at 12:52.
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25th July 2007, 13:02	#52
deepakhon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,441 Thanked: 65 Times	@BUSA: The pic you have posted is not the Brazilian Punto. It is that of the European Punto. The B Punto has blackened B Pillars aka Suzuki Swift and the new Skoda Fabia. Also, the fog lamp is a little different in shape. The E Punto is 4030 mm, no doubt, but I am interested to know about the length of B Punto. To view the B Punto, visit the site ::ITALIASPEED::. It is there in one of the news items. But the article does not mention anything about the length.
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25th July 2007, 13:16	#54
theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,217 Thanked: 1,807 Times View My Garage	How much of salt should this information be taken with ?
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25th July 2007, 13:40	#56
devarshi84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ahmedabad - Tor Posts: 4,024 Thanked: 211 Times View My Garage	guys, the launch is still 1 year away. Too much will change by then. A new Honda city, maybe a new Sx4 too and Linea will be probably one year old.
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25th July 2007, 13:46	#57
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	5 Lakh(ex showroom) for a 1.2 l large hatch is not unbelievable. I guess the MJD will come for 6+, which puts it in fusion territory. So it would be competing against a swift D/Getz D (5-5.5 lakh ex showroom) along with something from Tata (4.5-5 lakh) ex showroom Probably linea will sell at Verna price, and corner some market, but the general car buying populace mentality(not TBHP) is that "Hatch for 6.5L ex showroom? forget it."
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25th July 2007, 16:32	#60
amit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,717 Thanked: 449 Times	Mid 2008 Fiat will launch the Grande Punto in India with a 1.2 and a 1.4 L Petrol engine. Next summer, Fiat will launch the Grande Punto in Europe with a 1.4L Turbo 120 and 150 HP Petrol engine. Scoop: Fiat Grande Punto 1.4 Turbo caught testing.
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