Skoda Superb 2009 - 1st car replaced, 2nd Seized - Rs. Refunded now - Case Closed!

JVH · 17th February 2010, 15:38

Gagan,

Please use the report to moderator option just below your avatar. This should help expedite the request.

Zappo · 17th February 2010, 15:43

What is the new thread title that you want for this thread please? You just keep saying you wish for a change in the title. In fact it has already been changed to reflect your current problem. How else would you like it to be rephrased?

gagananand · 17th February 2010, 15:48

Thanks a lot. sorry I just overlooked it

jkdas · 17th February 2010, 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sahil

@nirmal- I am no technical expert but perhaps turbo's do increase oil consumptions. And this seems to be a German trait, even my 525d popped up a message at the initial 3000km mark asking to refill with 1 liter oil.

@entropy- Oil issue would be engine specific, IMO.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjalihal

Skoda Superb and Lauras are turbocharged engines right? So turbo engines are bound to use more engine oil. I am no car expert, just a thought. Would this be correct?

Quote:

Originally Posted by nirmaljusdoit

Gosh, that's quite a lot of oil consumption for a current gen petrol engine !

Funny IMHO ! Haven't come across this oil drinking ( that too synthetic ) on any on my or friend's cars, turbo or not. Never in my Tata even.

Drinking engine oil = bad right?

gaganand: check for smoke too as was mentioned in one of the posts.

Sahil · 17th February 2010, 15:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zappo

What is the new thread title that you want for this thread please? You just keep saying you wish for a change in the title. In fact it has already been changed to reflect your current problem. How else would you like it to be rephrased?

I don't think this a "Problem" as such. This is a common phenomenon for most Germans and specially since Skoda has already confirmed that it is a normal for every TSi engine. It's too early to make judgement, every cars initial beeding in period is different. I'd wait for the 1st service to jump to conclusions here.

jkdas · 17th February 2010, 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sahil

I don't think this a "Problem" as such. This is a common phenomenon for most Germans and specially since Skoda has already confirmed that it is a normal for every TSi engine. It's too early to make judgement, every cars initial beeding in period is different. I'd wait for the 1st service to jump to conclusions here.

Sahil, you meant to say that he should wait till 15000km? He already has completed 8000km.

Sahil · 17th February 2010, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

Sahil, you meant to say that he should wait till 15000km? He already has completed 8000km.

oops. yes I stand corrected, i missed the 0

Zappo · 17th February 2010, 16:59

I do not know if this is a problem. The thread title has been modified to match the woeful mood of the thread owner and the way he looks at it.

However, having said that, 500ml per 1000 kms sounds monstrous to me. Even if the Germans have this affinity to drink oil this sounds humongous. I do not know what is the volume of oil that car takes in. If it is around 3.5 ltrs or so and considering the lowest of the marks (which anyhow is danger territory) still leaves around 1.5 ltrs of oil in most cars are we saying that every 4000 kms the car runs out of engine oil? And then that is normal as well? Coming from the manufacturer, I find that statement really funny if not anything else.

Berj79 · 17th February 2010, 17:12

To the OG Poster, please take some time & read your car manual, it is specified in the engine oil section, VW tsi engines do consume more oil till the intial 5000kms, there is nothing you can do about it, what skoda is saying is right, my advice to you is sell the car, get one of the japs or korean cars they consume less oil, even Sahil has mentioned its a german trait for these engines to consume more oil at the starting.

cheers..

KSM-Vtec · 17th February 2010, 17:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Berj79

To the OG Poster, please take some time & read your car manual, it is specified in the engine oil section, VW tsi engines do consume more oil till the intial 5000kms, there is nothing you can do about it, what skoda is saying is right, my advice to you is sell the car, get one of the japs or korean cars they consume less oil, even Sahil has mentioned its a german trait for these engines to consume more oil at the starting.

cheers..

Does the manual specify the oil consumption level for the first 5k kms??

Also half a lt/1k kms is

. Are we sure if there are no leaks?

gagananand · 17th February 2010, 17:59

Yes we have checked for leaks there are none. The manual does not specify oil consumption for the first 5K Kms but you can make out from the mail from Skoda that they are comfortable with a oil consumption of 500 ml every 1000 kms

rjalihal · 17th February 2010, 18:02

I guess Skoda SUperb owners need to invest in oil mines as well then! Seriously 500ml for 1000 klicks is insane.

Berj79 · 17th February 2010, 18:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by gagananand

Yes we have checked for leaks there are none. The manual does not specify oil consumption for the first 5K Kms but you can make out from the mail from Skoda that they are comfortable with a oil consumption of 500 ml every 1000 kms

PLEASE read the manual bro, this is mentioned in the laura tsi manual

superb petrol & laura tsi same engine..

in the laura manual page "227" this is mentioned-

"It is normal for the engine to consume oil. The oil consumption may be as much as 0.5 l/1 000 km depending on your style of driving and the conditions under which you operate your vehicle. The oil consumption may be slightly higher than this during the first 5 000 kilometres."

Sn1p3r · 17th February 2010, 18:25

This is tough love between oil and engine initially for all the engines in variations.

Should not be called a problem. Naming it as problem against Skoda name will skew the readers prespective.

TSI engines have yet to prove their long term durability and maybe VW group is not taking any chances.

Enjoy the car!

sabynag · 17th February 2010, 18:40

Is VW using 1.8 TSI engine in any of its own models anywhere in the world ? VW putting this engine in their own brand cars will be a testimony that they have confidence in it.

Quality is the ability to stick to the stated specifications. If a software product claims that the tool can crash up to 100 times for every 10000 runs, then you can't call it a poor quality software as long as the crash count stays within the stated specification. You can, however, call the spec to be inferior. So, anyone can be obsessed with quality as long as he clearly mentions all the product defects upfront and a customer can't find a problem that's not listed in the spec.

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Zappo Team-BHP Support Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 5,922 Thanked: 2,699 Times	I do not know if this is a problem. The thread title has been modified to match the woeful mood of the thread owner and the way he looks at it. However, having said that, 500ml per 1000 kms sounds monstrous to me. Even if the Germans have this affinity to drink oil this sounds humongous. I do not know what is the volume of oil that car takes in. If it is around 3.5 ltrs or so and considering the lowest of the marks (which anyhow is danger territory) still leaves around 1.5 ltrs of oil in most cars are we saying that every 4000 kms the car runs out of engine oil? And then that is normal as well? Coming from the manufacturer, I find that statement really funny if not anything else. Last edited by Zappo : 17th February 2010 at 17:01.
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Berj79 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 375 Thanked: 10 Times	To the OG Poster, please take some time & read your car manual, it is specified in the engine oil section, VW tsi engines do consume more oil till the intial 5000kms, there is nothing you can do about it, what skoda is saying is right, my advice to you is sell the car, get one of the japs or korean cars they consume less oil, even Sahil has mentioned its a german trait for these engines to consume more oil at the starting. cheers..
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gagananand BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: delhi Posts: 80 Thanked: 114 Times	Yes we have checked for leaks there are none. The manual does not specify oil consumption for the first 5K Kms but you can make out from the mail from Skoda that they are comfortable with a oil consumption of 500 ml every 1000 kms
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rjalihal BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 713 Thanked: 100 Times	I guess Skoda SUperb owners need to invest in oil mines as well then! Seriously 500ml for 1000 klicks is insane.
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Sn1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 1,022 Thanked: 231 Times View My Garage	This is tough love between oil and engine initially for all the engines in variations. Should not be called a problem. Naming it as problem against Skoda name will skew the readers prespective. TSI engines have yet to prove their long term durability and maybe VW group is not taking any chances. Enjoy the car!
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sabynag BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 218 Thanked: 2 Times	Is VW using 1.8 TSI engine in any of its own models anywhere in the world ? VW putting this engine in their own brand cars will be a testimony that they have confidence in it. Quality is the ability to stick to the stated specifications. If a software product claims that the tool can crash up to 100 times for every 10000 runs, then you can't call it a poor quality software as long as the crash count stays within the stated specification. You can, however, call the spec to be inferior. So, anyone can be obsessed with quality as long as he clearly mentions all the product defects upfront and a customer can't find a problem that's not listed in the spec.
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