Desert Storm 2011

sudev · 25th November 2010, 14:24

GPS does not tell you if the track ahead is washed off. So when you hit a road block you come back to the last point and then cast in one direction ...and again and again tlllyou find a track that is good to continue. GPS helps in bringing you accurately to the same point for a re-attempt. Else in featureless flat it is impossible to bring yourself back on track.

ganesh_evo75 · 4th December 2010, 15:52

Sudev Sir,
i am participating on bike, almost most of the formality done.
regarding GPS unit you have and what i'll need, please suggest and guide me for the same.
Apart from 150 mercedes and 101 BMW's making Aurangabad name all over, we are trying to highlight Aurangabad in Motorsport also, so almost 4 entries ( 2 Xtreme , 1 Xplore, 1 Motoquad) this year for the Desert Storm 2011. lets hope for the best.

aditya79india · 6th January 2011, 02:21

Sudev, in the last event DS2010, my SX4 got stuck in sand a couple of times. This time around I wish to use all terrain tyres. Could you guide me with some options (my knowledge is weak in this deptt)?

sudev · 7th January 2011, 09:39

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Originally Posted by ganesh_evo75

Sudev Sir,
i am participating on bike, almost most of the formality done.
regarding GPS unit you have and what i'll need, please suggest and guide me for the same.

The best product is Trippy. Costly but best fro bikers. Contact me offline for details. Else Garmin76CSx with charging cable is the alternate. Charging cable - so that at night you can have constant backlit screen for navigation. And yes there are several night stages too in DS11!

I hope you are aware of the TSD Training Camp that I am doing at Mumbai on 16th January. ( http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ml#post2187707 ) If any one is interested they can register and attend.

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Apart from 150 mercedes and 101 BMW's making Aurangabad name all over, we are trying to highlight Aurangabad in Motorsport also, so almost 4 entries ( 2 Xtreme , 1 Xplore, 1 Motoquad) this year for the Desert Storm 2011. lets hope for the best.

Thanks and appreciate your efforts in promoting motor sport specifically and motoring in general. That is how the sport grows as more people become aware of the events and try it out.

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Originally Posted by aditya79india

Sudev, in the last event DS2010, my SX4 got stuck in sand a couple of times. This time around I wish to use all terrain tyres. Could you guide me with some options (my knowledge is weak in this deptt)?

I would suggest a "high" profile tyre rather than "wider" tyre that most performance guys buy. But that would compromise handling and ride. So the best is to use OE size. Some reduction in tyre pressure will help.

As far as tread pattern is concerned do not use heavy studded tyres. Contrary to normal thinking it is not the torque delivery that fails but the sand moves away without offering much resistance to studs.

So more "flat surface" is actually a better thing. And sand driving is all about maintaining momentum and not gunning the engine.

All the best for Desert Storm 2011

rkbharat · 7th January 2011, 13:55

Sudev ji, I am interested in some photography of Desert Storm, what do you suggest? Can you point some places where I can station, which is good for photography?

sudev · 7th January 2011, 13:56

Join the fun. Depending on your vehicle type I can suggest locations. Area and date(s)?

rkbharat · 7th January 2011, 14:00

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Originally Posted by sudev

Join the fun. Depending on your vehicle type I can suggest locations. Area and date(s)?

SX4 with brand new tyres and recently serviced

, Please suggest. 25, 26 and 27 Feb are better for me, but will go with your suggestion

thedreamcatcher · 7th January 2011, 16:09

With reference to GPS for bikers, check out the MapmyIndia website, they have a product specially made for bikes. It is called TrailBlazer

Again price is an issue, as IIRC it costs around 20k

sudev · 7th January 2011, 16:48

Perception : The best part about organising a cross country rally is getting see far off parts of the country!

Reality: Recce is extremely focused long distance travel with aim to produce a route for the rally. Tiring is too soft a word.

Here is account of a recent recce trip:

Day : -1
Distance: Partly 285kms
Time of travel: 5hour 30 minutes
Started from Noida on 1st evening at 1900hrs and drove all the way to Jaipur. Reached there at 0030hrs. Intention was to avoid fog disruptions that beset Delhi around this time of the year. Set the alarm clock to 0515 while unsuccessfully trying to persuade the small hotel on highway side to give us tea before we leave by 0600hrs.

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Read about the full recce trip in the travelogue section...

sudev · 7th January 2011, 16:52

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Originally Posted by thedreamcatcher

With reference to GPS for bikers, check out the MapmyIndia website, they have a product specially made for bikes. It is called TrailBlazer

Is it specially configured to allow uploading custom tracks? Else it is useless for rallying guys.

amitku · 10th January 2011, 13:30

I am entering Xplore with an Esteem. It has a CNG fitment. Do we have to remove the whole CNG installation for the event, or the removal of the CNG tank do.? What does the SR say on this..?

sudev · 10th January 2011, 17:17

Hmmm..if it is an O.E. fitment I guess you can enter without removing it. Though personally i'd say removing the tank would give you boot space. If non O.E. then remove the tank.

Crazy4Power · 10th January 2011, 17:55

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Originally Posted by amitku

I am entering Xplore with an Esteem. It has a CNG fitment. Do we have to remove the whole CNG installation for the event, or the removal of the CNG tank do.? What does the SR say on this..?

Even if SR says it is permitted, please don't use it. The reason being is that you are adding 30-40 kgs of wait at your rear.

In soft sand you should try to keep your vehicle as light at possible to achieve maximum flotation. Weight at rear also leads to tailgaiting on sharp turns with loose soil/sand.

cheers!

amitku · 10th January 2011, 20:14

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Originally Posted by Crazy4Power

Even if SR says it is permitted, please don't use it. The reason being is that you are adding 30-40 kgs of wait at your rear.

In soft sand you should try to keep your vehicle as light at possible to achieve maximum flotation. Weight at rear also leads to tailgaiting on sharp turns with loose soil/sand.

cheers!

Thanks for the reply. I have absolutely no plans to run on CNG.
I plan to remove the tank, but wanted to know if the CNG kit (the equipment in the engine bay) needs to be removed or can be just disconnected. This would save the hassle of reinstalling the kit once back from the rally. A lot of pipes and wiring needs to be removed.

sudev · 11th January 2011, 08:32

Just removing the tank should be okay.

25th November 2010, 14:24	#46
sudev Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,838 Thanked: 3,179 Times	GPS does not tell you if the track ahead is washed off. So when you hit a road block you come back to the last point and then cast in one direction ...and again and again tlllyou find a track that is good to continue. GPS helps in bringing you accurately to the same point for a re-attempt. Else in featureless flat it is impossible to bring yourself back on track.
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4th December 2010, 15:52	#47
ganesh_evo75 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Aurangabad (maharashtra) Posts: 80 Thanked: 7 Times	Sudev Sir, i am participating on bike, almost most of the formality done. regarding GPS unit you have and what i'll need, please suggest and guide me for the same. Apart from 150 mercedes and 101 BMW's making Aurangabad name all over, we are trying to highlight Aurangabad in Motorsport also, so almost 4 entries ( 2 Xtreme , 1 Xplore, 1 Motoquad) this year for the Desert Storm 2011. lets hope for the best.
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6th January 2011, 02:21	#48
aditya79india BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: DELHI Posts: 370 Thanked: 515 Times	Re: Desert Storm 2011 Sudev, in the last event DS2010, my SX4 got stuck in sand a couple of times. This time around I wish to use all terrain tyres. Could you guide me with some options (my knowledge is weak in this deptt)?
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7th January 2011, 13:55	#50
rkbharat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Gurgaon/New Delhi Posts: 1,601 Thanked: 724 Times View My Garage	Re: Desert Storm 2011 Sudev ji, I am interested in some photography of Desert Storm, what do you suggest? Can you point some places where I can station, which is good for photography?
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7th January 2011, 13:56	#51
sudev Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,838 Thanked: 3,179 Times	Re: Desert Storm 2011 Join the fun. Depending on your vehicle type I can suggest locations. Area and date(s)?
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7th January 2011, 16:09	#53
thedreamcatcher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dubai Posts: 1,204 Thanked: 66 Times View My Garage	Re: Desert Storm 2011 With reference to GPS for bikers, check out the MapmyIndia website, they have a product specially made for bikes. It is called TrailBlazer Again price is an issue, as IIRC it costs around 20k
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7th January 2011, 16:48	#54
sudev Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,838 Thanked: 3,179 Times	Recce fun? Desert Storm 2011 Perception : The best part about organising a cross country rally is getting see far off parts of the country! Reality: Recce is extremely focused long distance travel with aim to produce a route for the rally. Tiring is too soft a word. Here is account of a recent recce trip: Day : -1 Distance: Partly 285kms Time of travel: 5hour 30 minutes Started from Noida on 1st evening at 1900hrs and drove all the way to Jaipur. Reached there at 0030hrs. Intention was to avoid fog disruptions that beset Delhi around this time of the year. Set the alarm clock to 0515 while unsuccessfully trying to persuade the small hotel on highway side to give us tea before we leave by 0600hrs. Here is screen shot from my vehicle tracking site Beacon \| : geo positioning infomatics & locator Read about the full recce trip in the travelogue section... Last edited by sudev : 7th January 2011 at 16:51.
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10th January 2011, 13:30	#56
amitku BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Noida Posts: 85 Thanked: 31 Times	Re: Desert Storm 2011 I am entering Xplore with an Esteem. It has a CNG fitment. Do we have to remove the whole CNG installation for the event, or the removal of the CNG tank do.? What does the SR say on this..?
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10th January 2011, 17:17	#57
sudev Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,838 Thanked: 3,179 Times	Re: Desert Storm 2011 Hmmm..if it is an O.E. fitment I guess you can enter without removing it. Though personally i'd say removing the tank would give you boot space. If non O.E. then remove the tank.
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11th January 2011, 08:32	#60
sudev Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,838 Thanked: 3,179 Times	Re: Desert Storm 2011 Just removing the tank should be okay.
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