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tush · 15th December 2012, 12:37

Hi Jaggu and bhpians,

just realised that the service station forgot the EGR cleaning at the mandated interval of 30k and are doing it at 40k km service. Would the schedule missed have impacted anything in the engine or anything else?

Thanks,
tush.

Eddy · 15th December 2012, 12:43

Not at all. I got it done for the first time at about 60k kms.

tush · 16th December 2012, 01:31

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Originally Posted by Eddy

Not at all. I got it done for the first time at about 60k kms.

Thanks for the above guidance Eddy.

Cheers,
tush.

gaurav_chopra04 · 18th December 2012, 22:07

Hi Guys,

My brother in law has a swift diesel which has done about 85k kms. I just wanted to know what is the recommended change interval of swift diesel's timing chain. I will appreciate any help on the same. In the meantime I will go through this Huge thread to see if I can find an answer.

thanks
Gaurav

Eddy · 18th December 2012, 22:24

Does timing chain require a change at all ? I thought its life was equal to the life of the engine.

Waiting for the experts to answer, but I am all ears since my Swift is close to 140k on the original chain.

ravigop · 19th December 2012, 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy

Does timing chain require a change at all ? I thought its life was equal to the life of the engine.

Waiting for the experts to answer, but I am all ears since my Swift is close to 140k on the original chain.

Timing belt requires change, timing chain doesn't. My 2005 Zxi swift is on the same timing chain last 1.5 lac kms.

gaurav_chopra04 · 20th December 2012, 00:04

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Originally Posted by ravigop

Timing belt requires change, timing chain doesn't. My 2005 Zxi swift is on the same timing chain last 1.5 lac kms.

Swift petrol has a timing belt I believe, and it has a recommended change interval of 80k kms. If you are running on the timing belt for 1.5 lac kms, you are lucky to have not had it snapped..

Jaggu · 20th December 2012, 10:54

MUL petrol engines have timing belt, best to get it replaced it at 75-80k kms. Mostly the workshop would have already done that. But if its DDiS then it has timing chain, which is lifetime of the engine, so when you do an engine overhaul you need to take a call Or there are some obvious symptoms like noise from the chain gear.

ravigop · 20th December 2012, 11:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaggu

MUL petrol engines have timing belt, best to get it replaced it at 75-80k kms. Mostly the workshop would have already done that. But if its DDiS then it has timing chain, which is lifetime of the engine, so when you do an engine overhaul you need to take a call Or there are some obvious symptoms like noise from the chain gear.

Sorry for sending wrong info. Will check this weekend. I'm sure i overlooked. For the last 20k kms the vehicle is not serviced. Will take a look at it ASAP.

shibujp · 21st December 2012, 22:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaggu

MUL petrol engines have timing belt, best to get it replaced it at 75-80k kms. Mostly the workshop would have already done that. But if its DDiS then it has timing chain, which is lifetime of the engine, so when you do an engine overhaul you need to take a call Or there are some obvious symptoms like noise from the chain gear.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy

Does timing chain require a change at all ? I thought its life was equal to the life of the engine.

Waiting for the experts to answer, but I am all ears since my Swift is close to 140k on the original chain.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaurav_chopra04

Hi Guys,

My brother in law has a swift diesel which has done about 85k kms. I just wanted to know what is the recommended change interval of swift diesel's timing chain. I will appreciate any help on the same. In the meantime I will go through this Huge thread to see if I can find an answer.

thanks
Gaurav

I was informed by the supervisor during my last visit to the service station that the timing chain is showing some signs of an impending replacement through the noise it is making. My Swift has done 125000 kms now. He mentioned it was okay for another 10 - 20k. However the replacement cost is pretty steep as it would set me back around 5k for parts and labor.

Drive on,
Shibu.

SLK · 21st December 2012, 23:31

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Originally Posted by shibujp

However the replacement cost is pretty steep as it would set me back around 5k for parts and labor.

That's really not steep! My Optra's belt is for 35k. Even when compared to other cars, if the timing chain can be replaced in just 5k, its cheap.

Eddy · 21st December 2012, 23:35

Jaggu : How do you diagnose that the noise is from the timing chain ?

the only noise that I hear is the engine growl which reduces as soon as I press the clutch (at idle). I figure thats the sign of an ageing clutch (~90k kms old). I hope its not the timing chain ?

SLK · 22nd December 2012, 12:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddy

the only noise that I hear is the engine growl which reduces as soon as I press the clutch (at idle). I figure thats the sign of an ageing clutch (~90k kms old). I hope its not the timing chain ?

This noise is normally the gear-box. No its not a worry as far as I know, it just means that some gears are not lubricated well enough. This would normally happen only upon a cold start, i.e. when the gear box is not in use. Once you somewhat use all the 5 gears, then the noise should go.

If its a clutch problem, pressing the clutch will increase the noise and not decrease any kind of noise.

Eddy · 22nd December 2012, 20:19

Hmmm, it happens all the time and not only at the time of startup. And only at nuetral, so I suspect the clutch bearing.

F150 · 24th December 2012, 13:56

Team,

I have to go for tyre rotation. Front two and Rear right tyres have done 27K kms. Rear left has done 2K kms.

Please suggest how the rotation has to be done. Spear has done 26 K kms. Should I take out the spare ? It has 4 mended punctures.

15th December 2012, 12:37	#2521
tush BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 331 Thanked: 12 Times	Re: Swift Diesel, Saga continues. The DIESEL experience! Part II 60k kms Update Page Hi Jaggu and bhpians, just realised that the service station forgot the EGR cleaning at the mandated interval of 30k and are doing it at 40k km service. Would the schedule missed have impacted anything in the engine or anything else? Thanks, tush.
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15th December 2012, 12:43	#2522
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 9,582 Thanked: 14,607 Times	Re: Swift Diesel, Saga continues. The DIESEL experience! Part II 60k kms Update Page Not at all. I got it done for the first time at about 60k kms.
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18th December 2012, 22:07	#2524
gaurav_chopra04 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,264 Thanked: 574 Times View My Garage	Re: Swift Diesel, Saga continues. The DIESEL experience! Part II 60k kms Update Page Hi Guys, My brother in law has a swift diesel which has done about 85k kms. I just wanted to know what is the recommended change interval of swift diesel's timing chain. I will appreciate any help on the same. In the meantime I will go through this Huge thread to see if I can find an answer. thanks Gaurav
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18th December 2012, 22:24	#2525
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 9,582 Thanked: 14,607 Times	Re: Swift Diesel, Saga continues. The DIESEL experience! Part II 60k kms Update Page Does timing chain require a change at all ? I thought its life was equal to the life of the engine. Waiting for the experts to answer, but I am all ears since my Swift is close to 140k on the original chain.
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20th December 2012, 10:54	#2528
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,379 Thanked: 17,321 Times	Re: Swift Diesel, Saga continues. The DIESEL experience! Part II 60k kms Update Page MUL petrol engines have timing belt, best to get it replaced it at 75-80k kms. Mostly the workshop would have already done that. But if its DDiS then it has timing chain, which is lifetime of the engine, so when you do an engine overhaul you need to take a call Or there are some obvious symptoms like noise from the chain gear.
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21st December 2012, 23:35	#2532
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 9,582 Thanked: 14,607 Times	Re: Swift Diesel, Saga continues. The DIESEL experience! Part II 60k kms Update Page Jaggu : How do you diagnose that the noise is from the timing chain ? the only noise that I hear is the engine growl which reduces as soon as I press the clutch (at idle). I figure thats the sign of an ageing clutch (~90k kms old). I hope its not the timing chain ?
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22nd December 2012, 20:19	#2534
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 9,582 Thanked: 14,607 Times	Re: Swift Diesel, Saga continues. The DIESEL experience! Part II 60k kms Update Page Hmmm, it happens all the time and not only at the time of startup. And only at nuetral, so I suspect the clutch bearing.
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24th December 2012, 13:56	#2535
F150 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2011 Location: PUNE Posts: 1,772 Thanked: 926 Times View My Garage	Re: Swift Diesel, Saga continues. The DIESEL experience! Part II 60k kms Update Page Team, I have to go for tyre rotation. Front two and Rear right tyres have done 27K kms. Rear left has done 2K kms. Please suggest how the rotation has to be done. Spear has done 26 K kms. Should I take out the spare ? It has 4 mended punctures.
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