Ford Fiesta 1.4D ZXi Ownership Woes. EDIT : REPLACEMENT FIESTA. Pics on Pg. 5

Mad Monkey · 12th May 2008, 20:15

Ford Fiesta 1.4D ZXi
Silver stone

June 2006

The car was supposed to be delivered with a leather steering wheel (to be provided by the dealer). Imagine my shock on delivery date, when I see that my car came fitted with a non-leather steering wheel. After 3 weeks of telephonic discussions, Ford finally got the leather steering wheel fitted . This small incident was only the start of my “Go Fida” experience.

September 2006

- Air Conditioner stops cooling .
- The car overheats when the AC is turned on .
- Takes shaman ford one day to diagnose
- They replace the radiator fan assembly and circuit breaker .

All this on a car that is only 4 months old!

November 2006

- Suspension starts making loud noises. Shaman finds the right rear shocks faulty, and replaces them.

December 2006

- Noise resurfaces. Shaman replaces left rear shocks.

June 2007

- The fuel injector becomes noisy
- Fuel injector problem detected during improved air duct fitment at shaman .
- 1 injector bush is replaced

July 2007

- Another injector bush is replaced

July 2007

- Going by the number of replacements in one year, I thought it wise to opt for extended warranty. Pay Ford Rs. 9250 for Fiesta Extended warranty plan (21-07-07 until 20-06-09)

September 2007

- Once again, the air conditioner stops cooling .
- The car begins to overheat when the AC is turned on .
- Takes shaman ford one day to diagnose
- They replace the radiator fan ,assembly and a circuit breaker . AGAIN!!!!!!

December 2007

- Reverse lights stop working
- Reverse light switch is replaced under warranty during 40000 km service

January 2008

- 2 more fuel injector bushes are replaced by shaman
- Air conditioning cooling becomes weak.
- Under acceleration, there is a metallic noise from the engine compartment
- Leak in the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Valve is found
- Takes around 7 days for shaman to get the part from Chennai .

January 2008

- One morning, the driver discovers a pool of diesel under the Fiesta. We realize that the car is leaking diesel only when the engine is running. Shaman diagnoses the problem to an ill-fitted bush. It is fixed back with Teflon tape!! (picture's attached)

February 2008

By now, the car is pretty unreliable and no one from the family is ready to take it as a highway companion.
I request Mr. Piyush Harsora to get someone from Ford to check the car and make sure there are no defects or problems with car . Car is sent to Shaman Ford Workshop Lalbaug in the morning and checked by Mr S. K. Agarwal . He is the Regional Service Manager for Ford India . He finds the car to be perfectly fine . Car returned in the evening .

February 2008

- Once again, the air conditioner stops working . This time it is the A/c evaporator and cooling coils that are found to be defective. After a lot of insistence, the part is replaced and the car returned back to me at 2100hrs on the same day . Dashboard is not fitted back properly . Also Horn cover on steering wheel is loose .

April 2008

- A lot of injector and valves clatter coming from the engine
- All injector related washers and bushes are replaced by shaman

May 2008

We find a pool of diesel under the car again!!
I get in touch with Mr Piyush Harsora of Shaman, who sends a Mr Parsuram to check if the leakage is diesel. Mr. Parsuram confirms it is Diesel

No follow up from Shaman or ford. Call up Mr Piyush Harsora on Wednesday 08-05-2008, to be told that he has spoken to the Ford Regional office and they are handling the matter.

Call up Mr S.K Agarwal from FORD on Friday (09-05-2008) and am told that replacement engine head will only be with them by Monday (12-05-2008). He has no answer as too why i was not kept informed about the matter and why i have to be the one chasing them for information.

Agrees to provide a loaner car and extend warranty till 2010 . Existing extended warranty runs out in 2009 so they are only offering 1 year more which is worth Rs 5000 .

In a nut shell

Cost of spares replaced and to be replaced under warranty :- Rs 108,222 (including cost of engine head).

Is this what we have to expect of a Ford Fiesta that isn’t even 2 years old? This is shabbier quality than an Ambassador. Why are we paying premium money for a small sedan, when it requires so many visits to the garage.

I never get feedback from Ford or from Shaman. Only after chasing them innumerable times does someone get back to me.

Diesel leakage is a major problem and a safety hazard too! Who is to blame if the car catches fire, or worse still, with occupants inside? Ford really doesn’t care a damn .They should have gotten the engine and electrical system thoroughly checked the first time itself .

They are behaving as if they are doing me a favor by rectify their mistakes . I was told that i should be happy with one years extended warranty as they do not normally do this and that it is will cost Ford a lot of money !!

The most humorous part is : I received this SMS from Ford a couple of days back “Dear Fiesta Owner, refer a friend to buy a Ford Fiesta by 31 May 08 and get a Rs.10,000 Gift voucher from Tanishq. SMS SUPER to 56263 today.”

n_aditya · 12th May 2008, 20:26

This is absolutely horrendous. Looks like the service technicians are not knowledgeable to get to the root cause of the problems. More over the senior staff is also not aware what is happening and hence dont give you any commitment (returning your calls, updates etc.).

Just reading this disgusts me (not the post). I can imagine how mad (literally!) you got with the ford guys for selling you a defective new car which is demanding so much attention. Is there a QC (quality check) that happens? The same issue is recurring and fixed over and over again. Damn !!! To top it all they ask you for a referral?

Write to the press, write to Ford, lodge a complaint in a consumer court. Make life hell for Ford. Go Fida !!! All the best. Hope the issues get sorted out soon.

In the interim, these should help you dude :

1. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/owning...ctive-car.html

2. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...emon-320d.html

Mad Monkey · 12th May 2008, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by n_aditya

This is absolutely horrendous. Looks like the service technicians are not knowledgeable to get to the root cause of the problems. More over the senior staff is also not aware what is happening and hence dont give you any commitment (returning your calls, updates etc.).

Just reading this disgusts me (not the post). I can imagine how mad (literally!) you got with the ford guys for selling you a defective new car which is demanding so much attention. Is there a QC (quality check) that happens? The same issue is recurring and fixed over and over again. Damn !!! To top it all they ask you for a referral?

Write to the press, write to Ford, lodge a complaint in a consumer court. Make life hell for Ford. Go Fida !!! All the best. Hope the issues get sorted out soon.

In the interim, these should help you dude :

1. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/owning...ctive-car.html

2. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...emon-320d.html

thanks n_aditya

am mailing all those glossy car magazines .....

n_aditya · 12th May 2008, 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Monkey

am mailing all those glossy car magazines

This should help too :

Preparing and Filing Consumer Complaint at Consumer Court in India

Consumer Online Resources & Empowerment Centre

There is a thread (for the 2nd link) but I'm unable to find it.

shishir11224 · 12th May 2008, 23:12

worst car ever seen on indian roads even am facing the same problems like this guy and that too within a short period of 8 months and the company says "GO FIDA"!!!

suman · 13th May 2008, 09:45

Wow, this is shocking, thanks for sharing. Haven't heard of these kind of woes from any of the other Fiesta Diesel owners so far though - I wonder if your's was a lemon.

GTO · 13th May 2008, 11:48

Monkey,

Its shocking to have heard about the problems with your Fiesta. As we spoke, take it up strongly with Ford. Shaman seems to have limited powers, it is Ford that can make the difference.

Do NOT accept such unreliability when you have paid premium money for a relatively small sedan.

vnabhi · 13th May 2008, 11:54

Quite shocking, Monkey. I've never heard of such issues with the Fiesta so far.Please take it up strongly with Ford India, on the lines other members have suggested.

ab1xlr8 · 13th May 2008, 14:55

my god ,so many probems in a newcar.truly symphatize with u man, i suggest u demand a new car, the morons at ford look incompetent

karanraheja · 13th May 2008, 14:58

Wow! Thats a huge list of troubles. Few of my friends own a Fiesta D , they have no complaints till date. Since Shaman aint giving proper response try send strong letter to Ford India.

hsejars · 13th May 2008, 20:56

Shocking man! Sure you have landed a lemon. Take them to consumer court and make life hell for Ford - probably you should get a new car. All the best.

jkdas · 13th May 2008, 22:05

Couldnt you have tried another service centre?

Heard a similar issue with a colleague's flat mate's Fiesta.

Akshay1234 · 13th May 2008, 22:14

thats terrible man. ive heard of crappy service from shaman too.

Jaggu · 13th May 2008, 23:08

Is this case of a lemon, one of the early lot cars before ford learned more about India?

aaggoswami · 13th May 2008, 23:13

Its shocking that Fiesta has such problems. Get in touch with auto magazines, however they may require subscriptions in these cases( not sure if they handle without without subscriptions ).

12th May 2008, 20:15	#1
Mad Monkey BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 274 Thanked: 456 Times	Ford Fiesta 1.4D ZXi Ownership Woes. EDIT : REPLACEMENT FIESTA. Pics on Pg. 5 Ford Fiesta 1.4D ZXi Silver stone June 2006 The car was supposed to be delivered with a leather steering wheel (to be provided by the dealer). Imagine my shock on delivery date, when I see that my car came fitted with a non-leather steering wheel. After 3 weeks of telephonic discussions, Ford finally got the leather steering wheel fitted . This small incident was only the start of my “Go Fida” experience. September 2006 - Air Conditioner stops cooling . - The car overheats when the AC is turned on . - Takes shaman ford one day to diagnose - They replace the radiator fan assembly and circuit breaker . All this on a car that is only 4 months old! November 2006 - Suspension starts making loud noises. Shaman finds the right rear shocks faulty, and replaces them. December 2006 - Noise resurfaces. Shaman replaces left rear shocks. June 2007 - The fuel injector becomes noisy - Fuel injector problem detected during improved air duct fitment at shaman . - 1 injector bush is replaced July 2007 - Another injector bush is replaced July 2007 - Going by the number of replacements in one year, I thought it wise to opt for extended warranty. Pay Ford Rs. 9250 for Fiesta Extended warranty plan (21-07-07 until 20-06-09) September 2007 - Once again, the air conditioner stops cooling . - The car begins to overheat when the AC is turned on . - Takes shaman ford one day to diagnose - They replace the radiator fan ,assembly and a circuit breaker . AGAIN!!!!!! December 2007 - Reverse lights stop working - Reverse light switch is replaced under warranty during 40000 km service January 2008 - 2 more fuel injector bushes are replaced by shaman - Air conditioning cooling becomes weak. - Under acceleration, there is a metallic noise from the engine compartment - Leak in the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Valve is found - Takes around 7 days for shaman to get the part from Chennai . January 2008 - One morning, the driver discovers a pool of diesel under the Fiesta. We realize that the car is leaking diesel only when the engine is running. Shaman diagnoses the problem to an ill-fitted bush. It is fixed back with Teflon tape!! (picture's attached) February 2008 By now, the car is pretty unreliable and no one from the family is ready to take it as a highway companion. I request Mr. Piyush Harsora to get someone from Ford to check the car and make sure there are no defects or problems with car . Car is sent to Shaman Ford Workshop Lalbaug in the morning and checked by Mr S. K. Agarwal . He is the Regional Service Manager for Ford India . He finds the car to be perfectly fine . Car returned in the evening . February 2008 - Once again, the air conditioner stops working . This time it is the A/c evaporator and cooling coils that are found to be defective. After a lot of insistence, the part is replaced and the car returned back to me at 2100hrs on the same day . Dashboard is not fitted back properly . Also Horn cover on steering wheel is loose . April 2008 - A lot of injector and valves clatter coming from the engine - All injector related washers and bushes are replaced by shaman May 2008 We find a pool of diesel under the car again!! I get in touch with Mr Piyush Harsora of Shaman, who sends a Mr Parsuram to check if the leakage is diesel. Mr. Parsuram confirms it is Diesel No follow up from Shaman or ford. Call up Mr Piyush Harsora on Wednesday 08-05-2008, to be told that he has spoken to the Ford Regional office and they are handling the matter. Call up Mr S.K Agarwal from FORD on Friday (09-05-2008) and am told that replacement engine head will only be with them by Monday (12-05-2008). He has no answer as too why i was not kept informed about the matter and why i have to be the one chasing them for information. Agrees to provide a loaner car and extend warranty till 2010 . Existing extended warranty runs out in 2009 so they are only offering 1 year more which is worth Rs 5000 . In a nut shell Cost of spares replaced and to be replaced under warranty :- Rs 108,222 (including cost of engine head). Is this what we have to expect of a Ford Fiesta that isn’t even 2 years old? This is shabbier quality than an Ambassador. Why are we paying premium money for a small sedan, when it requires so many visits to the garage. I never get feedback from Ford or from Shaman. Only after chasing them innumerable times does someone get back to me. Diesel leakage is a major problem and a safety hazard too! Who is to blame if the car catches fire, or worse still, with occupants inside? Ford really doesn’t care a damn .They should have gotten the engine and electrical system thoroughly checked the first time itself . They are behaving as if they are doing me a favor by rectify their mistakes . I was told that i should be happy with one years extended warranty as they do not normally do this and that it is will cost Ford a lot of money !! The most humorous part is : I received this SMS from Ford a couple of days back *“Dear Fiesta Owner, refer a friend to buy a Ford Fiesta by 31 May 08 and get a Rs.10,000 Gift voucher from Tanishq. SMS SUPER to 56263 today*.” Attached Thumbnails
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12th May 2008, 20:26	#2
n_aditya Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Namma Bengaluru Posts: 5,348 Thanked: 3,684 Times View My Garage	This is absolutely horrendous. Looks like the service technicians are not knowledgeable to get to the root cause of the problems. More over the senior staff is also not aware what is happening and hence dont give you any commitment (returning your calls, updates etc.). Just reading this disgusts me (not the post). I can imagine how mad (literally!) you got with the ford guys for selling you a defective new car which is demanding so much attention. Is there a QC (quality check) that happens? The same issue is recurring and fixed over and over again. Damn !!! To top it all they ask you for a referral? Write to the press, write to Ford, lodge a complaint in a consumer court. Make life hell for Ford. Go Fida !!! All the best. Hope the issues get sorted out soon. In the interim, these should help you dude : 1. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/owning...ctive-car.html 2. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...emon-320d.html Last edited by n_aditya : 12th May 2008 at 20:27.
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12th May 2008, 23:12	#5
shishir11224 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: mangalore Posts: 20 Thanked: 0 Times	worst car ever seen on indian roads even am facing the same problems like this guy and that too within a short period of 8 months and the company says "GO FIDA"!!!
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13th May 2008, 09:45	#6
suman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 4,589 Thanked: 279 Times View My Garage	Wow, this is shocking, thanks for sharing. Haven't heard of these kind of woes from any of the other Fiesta Diesel owners so far though - I wonder if your's was a lemon.
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13th May 2008, 11:48	#7
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,583 Thanked: 301,429 Times View My Garage	Monkey, Its shocking to have heard about the problems with your Fiesta. As we spoke, take it up strongly with Ford. Shaman seems to have limited powers, it is Ford that can make the difference. Do NOT accept such unreliability when you have paid premium money for a relatively small sedan.
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13th May 2008, 11:54	#8
vnabhi Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: DC -> DC Posts: 5,958 Thanked: 2,393 Times View My Garage	Quite shocking, Monkey. I've never heard of such issues with the Fiesta so far.Please take it up strongly with Ford India, on the lines other members have suggested.
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13th May 2008, 14:55	#9
ab1xlr8 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 93 Thanked: Once View My Garage	my god ,so many probems in a newcar.truly symphatize with u man, i suggest u demand a new car, the morons at ford look incompetent
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13th May 2008, 14:58	#10
karanraheja Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 436 Times	Wow! Thats a huge list of troubles. Few of my friends own a Fiesta D , they have no complaints till date. Since Shaman aint giving proper response try send strong letter to Ford India.
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13th May 2008, 20:56	#11
hsejars BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 86 Thanked: 5 Times	Shocking man! Sure you have landed a lemon. Take them to consumer court and make life hell for Ford - probably you should get a new car. All the best.
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13th May 2008, 22:05	#12
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Couldnt you have tried another service centre? Heard a similar issue with a colleague's flat mate's Fiesta.
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13th May 2008, 22:14	#13
Akshay1234 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 10,266 Thanked: 12,322 Times	thats terrible man. ive heard of crappy service from shaman too.
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13th May 2008, 23:08	#14
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,912 Times	Is this case of a lemon, one of the early lot cars before ford learned more about India?
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13th May 2008, 23:13	#15
aaggoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Vadodara Posts: 4,982 Thanked: 2,931 Times	Shocking. Its shocking that Fiesta has such problems. Get in touch with auto magazines, however they may require subscriptions in these cases( not sure if they handle without without subscriptions ). Last edited by aaggoswami : 13th May 2008 at 23:15.
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