Which Battery ?

whitemm550 · 27th January 2010, 16:15

Last evening I got surprised to learn about the term "zero maintenance" term from the battery shop owner & hence posting this question.

They said that no batteries are maintenance free including Amaron. B They showed the place (squared RED in color in the pic) as where the maintenance is being carried out.

Since I'm not very clear on this concept & the lady didn't sound technically, I did not ask more questions over there. Somebody pls help me understand if this is true since I haven't bothered to see if the car battery exists under the hood since I bought it in Mar 2007 till date.[/quote]

yea you are right, there arent any zero maintainence batteries, mainly due to the fact that there is a continuous cycle of charge- discharge, generally effected by external factors like the car alternator/ dynamo, and to a large extent by the starter too. the distilled water level changes in a battery if
1. the alternator is faulty, resulting in either overcharging, or undercharging the battery, thus affecting the distilled water levels
2, if the starter is faulty, then it leads to excessive load on the battery to crank the engine, thus affecting the distilled water levels.
3. if there is a current 'leakage', i.e, if there is a continuous flow of current from the battery due to some electrical problems in the vehicle ( it may be a small thing related to your Music system/ central locking system or just about anything)

batteries like amaron, do have silver inside, which in the form of a chemical reaction, tries to prevent a loss of water from the battery cells, thus retaining charge over a longer period of time, thats why they are known as zero maintainence batteries.

any problems with your Amaron battery do PM me. i am the Amaron guy in Goa.

Raccoon · 27th January 2010, 16:16

Easiest way to to quickly test is to just check the OCV with a multimeter. Ideally it should be 12.6 V, IIRC... but after 3 years it might be just slightly lesser. Make sure it is tested after letting the battery stand for a day or so. Batteries can last well over 3 years.

whitemm550 · 27th January 2010, 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raccoon

Easiest way to to quickly test is to just check the OCV with a multimeter. Ideally it should be 12.6 V, IIRC... but after 3 years it might be just slightly lesser. Make sure it is tested after letting the battery stand for a day or so. Batteries can last well over 3 years.

there are other things like, charging voltage, that should be between 13.2 to 13.6 V, or that staring voltage that should be not be less then 9.4 volts

jp1 · 16th June 2010, 14:29

My Bolero battery is dead, it was an AMARON 75D31L, came to 4 years. I have to get a replacement. How is Bosch batteries? Anyone has any experience with it?

regnex · 16th June 2010, 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitemm550

there are other things like, charging voltage, that should be between 13.2 to 13.6 V, or that staring voltage that should be not be less then 9.4 volts

Hi, What would be an ideal battery capacity for a Mitsubishi lancer? considering a lot of electronic lighting and gadgets installed in the car?

i'm from Goa too,

Cheers

Raccoon · 17th June 2010, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by jp1

My Bolero battery is dead, it was an AMARON 75D31L, came to 4 years. I have to get a replacement. How is Bosch batteries? Anyone has any experience with it?

They are said to be good. Reviews on TBHP are also good. They are reportedly made by Amaron.

toms_2191 · 20th June 2010, 18:53

i got 4 years and 3 months with bosch DIN 44 battery. now changed sicne it was showing only 8V when loaded. now shifted to SF sonic DIN 44 . cost me 4.4K after exchanging the old battery. it has got 2.59 (Replacement)+ 2.5 (prorated) years warranty compared to 2 years replacement warranty of Bosch.
I don't feel any difference in brands as of now other than the high cost of Bosch which is on 1k premium compared to SF!

Jai Ho

specialist1968 · 20th June 2010, 19:03

bosch is simply good. No worries at all. My alto's battery lasted for more than 5 years.

For My kinetic honda, I have tried different batteries. Amco is virtually trouble free. Some other Indian famous brand lasted for just one year (almost all iterations) and required topping up every month. Amco required topping up once in six months (during service only). It lasted for over 4 years too.

addyhemmige · 21st June 2010, 22:48

Does anybody know the amperage of the battery of the Swift LDi/VDi? My cousin's battery conked off and the Maruti dealer has suggested an Exide DI(?) model battery and he says it is Rs.8250. I think this is a total rip-off.

Can someone tell me which is the best battery for the Swift LDi/VDi? I feel spending 8k on some 'special' battery is not worth it at all. Also, it would help if someone could give me an indicative price for the battery. I did search in the Team-Bhp directory, but could not find any battery dealer.

prince_pervez · 21st June 2010, 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by regnex

Hi, What would be an ideal battery capacity for a Mitsubishi lancer? considering a lot of electronic lighting and gadgets installed in the car?

i'm from Goa too,

Cheers

I think you may require another battery if you want to run heavy hardware/sound ware/lighting etc. This is not uncommon. I have seen this in many Lancers. In one such Lancer the battery was placed in the boot. and some serious sound equipment was wired to it.

After a few bad experiences with Exide, I prefer Amaron and suggest the same too (to the OP)

anjan_c2007 · 21st June 2010, 23:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by addyhemmige

Does anybody know the amperage of the battery of the Swift LDi/VDi? My cousin's battery conked off and the Maruti dealer has suggested an Exide DI(?) model battery and he says it is Rs.8250. I think this is a total rip-off.

Can someone tell me which is the best battery for the Swift LDi/VDi? I feel spending 8k on some 'special' battery is not worth it at all. Also, it would help if someone could give me an indicative price for the battery. I did search in the Team-Bhp directory, but could not find any battery dealer.

The Swift LDi/VDi battery should not cost you more than Rs 5.2 K for a three year warranty, maintenance free one of some reputed make.I would settle for nothing less than an Amaron which I am sure is superior to Exide.My two cars are running on Amaron while one has an Exide.

addyhemmige · 21st June 2010, 23:11

Thanks anjan. So, an Amaron battery for the Swift LDi/VDi should cost approx 5k, right? Is this the 'regular' battery or a 'special' battery which the Maruti dealer offered?

I really don't understand what the special battery means here. IIRC, it is an Exide DI model. Does anyone know about this battery. The dealer asked my cousin to go for this battery as it was 'special'.

ghpk · 22nd June 2010, 01:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by addyhemmige

The dealer asked my cousin to go for this battery as it was 'special'.

The dealer must have asked for that particular battery as the commission on sales would be special.

Battery should be purchased from Battery Dealer and not A.S.S.
this way you'll avoid going to A.S.S. then to battery dealer in case of problems.

regnex · 22nd June 2010, 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by prince_pervez

I think you may require another battery if you want to run heavy hardware/sound ware/lighting etc. This is not uncommon. I have seen this in many Lancers. In one such Lancer the battery was placed in the boot. and some serious sound equipment was wired to it.

After a few bad experiences with Exide, I prefer Amaron and suggest the same too (to the OP)

@prince_pervez, thanks for the suggestion, i will prefer going for an AMARON for sure and i too had bad experience with EXIDE.

Coming to the topic of running two batteries, i did seek advice from fellow BHPians in one of the thread i started, most of them suggested i go in for a bigger capacity battery and maybe upgrade the alternator.

I even have already purchased a battery isolator for running a two battery setup, but have no clue on how to go about because of a lot of doubts.

please check this thread:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/ask-gu...ancer-ice.html

Raccoon · 23rd June 2010, 00:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by specialist1968

bosch is simply good. No worries at all. My alto's battery lasted for more than 5 years.

For My kinetic honda, I have tried different batteries. Amco is virtually trouble free. Some other Indian famous brand lasted for just one year (almost all iterations) and required topping up every month. Amco required topping up once in six months (during service only). It lasted for over 4 years too.

Amco! Like I'v mentioned before - they used to be good when the collobaration with Yuasa existed. Now they are about as bad as Exides. My Amcos didn't even last and worse, they belch acid and fumes and ruined the metal surrounding it! Unless you really need a 7 Ah battery (only Amco, Exide, SF make it), there is no reason to even touch them when much better stuff like Base Terminal/Amaron/Bosch is available.

Maybe not all Amcos start leaking, but if/when they do, and ruin your bike, you will share my hatred of them (along with Exide)...

27th January 2010, 16:15	#46
whitemm550 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Margao goa Posts: 368 Thanked: 108 Times	Last evening I got surprised to learn about the term "zero maintenance" term from the battery shop owner & hence posting this question. They said that no batteries are maintenance free including Amaron. B They showed the place (squared RED in color in the pic) as where the maintenance is being carried out. Since I'm not very clear on this concept & the lady didn't sound technically, I did not ask more questions over there. Somebody pls help me understand if this is true since I haven't bothered to see if the car battery exists under the hood since I bought it in Mar 2007 till date.[/quote] yea you are right, there arent any zero maintainence batteries, mainly due to the fact that there is a continuous cycle of charge- discharge, generally effected by external factors like the car alternator/ dynamo, and to a large extent by the starter too. the distilled water level changes in a battery if 1. the alternator is faulty, resulting in either overcharging, or undercharging the battery, thus affecting the distilled water levels 2, if the starter is faulty, then it leads to excessive load on the battery to crank the engine, thus affecting the distilled water levels. 3. if there is a current 'leakage', i.e, if there is a continuous flow of current from the battery due to some electrical problems in the vehicle ( it may be a small thing related to your Music system/ central locking system or just about anything) batteries like amaron, do have silver inside, which in the form of a chemical reaction, tries to prevent a loss of water from the battery cells, thus retaining charge over a longer period of time, thats why they are known as zero maintainence batteries. any problems with your Amaron battery do PM me. i am the Amaron guy in Goa.
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27th January 2010, 16:16	#47
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	Easiest way to to quickly test is to just check the OCV with a multimeter. Ideally it should be 12.6 V, IIRC... but after 3 years it might be just slightly lesser. Make sure it is tested after letting the battery stand for a day or so. Batteries can last well over 3 years.
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16th June 2010, 14:29	#49
jp1 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 286 Thanked: 47 Times	How is Bosch battery? My Bolero battery is dead, it was an AMARON 75D31L, came to 4 years. I have to get a replacement. How is Bosch batteries? Anyone has any experience with it?
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20th June 2010, 18:53	#52
toms_2191 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Kannur/Calicut Posts: 136 Thanked: 40 Times	i got 4 years and 3 months with bosch DIN 44 battery. now changed sicne it was showing only 8V when loaded. now shifted to SF sonic DIN 44 . cost me 4.4K after exchanging the old battery. it has got 2.59 (Replacement)+ 2.5 (prorated) years warranty compared to 2 years replacement warranty of Bosch. I don't feel any difference in brands as of now other than the high cost of Bosch which is on 1k premium compared to SF! Jai Ho
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20th June 2010, 19:03	#53
specialist1968 BHPian Join Date: May 2010 Location: God'sowncountry Posts: 119 Thanked: 34 Times	bosch is simply good. No worries at all. My alto's battery lasted for more than 5 years. For My kinetic honda, I have tried different batteries. Amco is virtually trouble free. Some other Indian famous brand lasted for just one year (almost all iterations) and required topping up every month. Amco required topping up once in six months (during service only). It lasted for over 4 years too.
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21st June 2010, 22:48	#54
addyhemmige Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bangalore/Hassan Posts: 1,527 Thanked: 487 Times View My Garage	Does anybody know the amperage of the battery of the Swift LDi/VDi? My cousin's battery conked off and the Maruti dealer has suggested an Exide DI(?) model battery and he says it is Rs.8250. I think this is a total rip-off. Can someone tell me which is the best battery for the Swift LDi/VDi? I feel spending 8k on some 'special' battery is not worth it at all. Also, it would help if someone could give me an indicative price for the battery. I did search in the Team-Bhp directory, but could not find any battery dealer.
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21st June 2010, 23:11	#57
addyhemmige Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bangalore/Hassan Posts: 1,527 Thanked: 487 Times View My Garage	Thanks anjan. So, an Amaron battery for the Swift LDi/VDi should cost approx 5k, right? Is this the 'regular' battery or a 'special' battery which the Maruti dealer offered? I really don't understand what the special battery means here. IIRC, it is an Exide DI model. Does anyone know about this battery. The dealer asked my cousin to go for this battery as it was 'special'.
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