K&n Vs Ractive

v1p3r · 29th March 2007, 23:04

Congrats on the end of ICSE.

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Originally Posted by binz

Correction..
Dads car,my money

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moralfibre · 30th March 2007, 08:39

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Originally Posted by skidrock

Could somebody please tell me where can we buy Ractive replacement filter for Zen MPFI?
Does PJSpeed sell those?

No Skidrock, stock replacement filters are not available in RActive. They only make universal conical filters.

harsh87 · 30th March 2007, 09:51

how much does green cotton universal filter with 3" flange sell for in India

Rtech · 30th March 2007, 09:56

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

I've seen Ractive, and IMHO they do nothing but make a lot of induction noise. The car I was driving actually seemed slower because of the damn thing.

Are you implying that the ractive is more restrictive than the K&N or another aftermarket filter?

v1p3r · 30th March 2007, 14:23

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Originally Posted by Rtech

Are you implying that the ractive is more restrictive than the K&N or another aftermarket filter?

Yes, in my humble opinion. More so than K&N.

Surprise · 30th March 2007, 14:53

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Originally Posted by skidrock

Could somebody please tell me where can we buy Ractive replacement filter for Zen MPFI?
Does PJSpeed sell those?

Yes PJ Speed sells it. But Iam not sure whether the Company has anyoffice in Hydreabad. I guess Viper deals it with in Mumbai.

Fantastic improvement upon installation

skidrock · 30th March 2007, 15:08

Thanks for the reply morbal.

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Originally Posted by Surprise

Yes PJ Speed sells it. But Iam not sure whether the Company has anyoffice in Hydreabad. I guess Viper deals it with in Mumbai.

Fantastic improvement upon installation

Did anybody actually fit a Ractive filter onto a Zen MPFi ? How much of work would that be?

Rtech · 30th March 2007, 15:08

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

Yes, in my humble opinion. More so than K&N.

Do you also mean that the car was slower than stock? So that means, in your opinion, the ractive is actually more restrictive than a OE filter?

v1p3r · 30th March 2007, 15:10

No, I do not mean that. They are way better than the OE filter. But in my little experience with filters, Greencotton and K&N seem to fare better than Ractive. Given the pricing in India, Ractive would win. But internationally, all three being priced similarly, I would place Ractive last.

What are your views on the matter?

Rtech · 30th March 2007, 15:12

Just trying to clear up matters as you said, "The car I was driving actually seemed slower because of the damn thing.".

So which filter did the car you drive have?

Surprise · 30th March 2007, 15:16

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

No, I do not mean that. They are way better than the OE filter. But in my little experience with filters, Greencotton and K&N seem to fare better than Ractive. Given the pricing in India, Ractive would win. But internationally, all three being priced similarly, I would place Ractive last.

What are your views on the matter?

This gives a better picture. I was taken back on your earier post, as I could feel the difference after installing the Ractive conical filter. Thanks

v1p3r · 30th March 2007, 15:16

I'm sorry, evidently I didn't phrase it right. I meant it seemed slower than the same head with a K&N. I feel that a K&N would have been a better bet. The Ractive seemed too loud for my liking. K&Ns seem to have a growl, while this had a wheeze/cough/sniff/dunno.

What is your take?

Rtech · 30th March 2007, 15:53

Thanks for the clarification.

My Take? I've not used Ractive or Green. I use a Uni on my ZZR, and a Pipercross on the Octavia. Both OE replacements. In our conditions, I prefer foam to paper, and would not mind the slightly more restrictive nature of the foam filters. Not noticed any change in performance in the car. On the bike, the induction sound is a bit louder, but I can't claim any power increase.

I've had a K&N on my ex-Katana, but then that came with the bike so I had no reference.

However, I plan on trying out a K&N replacement on my Octi to see if there is any difference. Will post my findings once I've tried it.

v1p3r · 30th March 2007, 16:03

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Originally Posted by Rtech

My Take? I've not used Ractive or Green. I use a Uni on my ZZR, and a Pipercross on the Octavia. Both OE replacements. In our conditions, I prefer foam to paper, and would not mind the slightly more restrictive nature of the foam filters. Not noticed any change in performance in the car. On the bike, the induction sound is a bit louder, but I can't claim any power increase.

Is the bike upjetted accordingly? Or do I sound stupid because it's actually injected?!

So you're saying the filters basically weren't worth it.

Rtech · 30th March 2007, 16:07

It's an OE replacement filter. No need to upjet. But yet, I did play around with the jetting, finally going back to stock as it was running too rich.

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So you're saying the filters basically weren't worth it.

Well, for someone looking for performance from a replacement filter, nope. Better off going for a proper set up. If you want a bit better breathing with the stock airbox and piping, then yes. Also, its reusable.

That said, a lot of people claim major improvements with replacement filters. I've just never felt them myself.

View Poll Results: Which offers better performance?
K&N	40	59.70%
Ractive	27	40.30%
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30th March 2007, 09:51	#48
harsh87 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 169 Thanked: 3 Times View My Garage	how much does green cotton universal filter with 3" flange sell for in India
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30th March 2007, 15:10	#54
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,363 Thanked: 7,504 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (7)	No, I do not mean that. They are way better than the OE filter. But in my little experience with filters, Greencotton and K&N seem to fare better than Ractive. Given the pricing in India, Ractive would win. But internationally, all three being priced similarly, I would place Ractive last. What are your views on the matter?
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30th March 2007, 15:12	#55
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,765 Thanked: 371 Times View My Garage	Just trying to clear up matters as you said, "The car I was driving actually seemed slower because of the damn thing.". So which filter did the car you drive have?
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30th March 2007, 15:16	#57
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,363 Thanked: 7,504 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (7)	I'm sorry, evidently I didn't phrase it right. I meant it seemed slower than the same head with a K&N. I feel that a K&N would have been a better bet. The Ractive seemed too loud for my liking. K&Ns seem to have a growl, while this had a wheeze/cough/sniff/dunno. What is your take?
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30th March 2007, 15:53	#58
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,765 Thanked: 371 Times View My Garage	Thanks for the clarification. My Take? I've not used Ractive or Green. I use a Uni on my ZZR, and a Pipercross on the Octavia. Both OE replacements. In our conditions, I prefer foam to paper, and would not mind the slightly more restrictive nature of the foam filters. Not noticed any change in performance in the car. On the bike, the induction sound is a bit louder, but I can't claim any power increase. I've had a K&N on my ex-Katana, but then that came with the bike so I had no reference. However, I plan on trying out a K&N replacement on my Octi to see if there is any difference. Will post my findings once I've tried it.
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