scorpio engine on contessa

v1p3r · 16th May 2007, 03:13

118NE petrol box will SNAP when you let go of the clutch. 137 D, the diesel version, that box may hold, but then again, I am not too sure. Besides, the ratios will not be too good for the Scorpio.

If you can afford it, nothing to beat a Qualis box.

Kinetik · 16th May 2007, 12:40

sounds good, but what about the weight and weight related issues like chassis dynamics, dont know the difference in weight difference between the 2 engines

Psycho · 16th May 2007, 13:19

Simple points here:

Gearbox: You need a better box the conti box is no good when it comes to the ratio's the qualis is a better bet or the scorpio's itself
Mounts: Will have to be welded well and you may need braces
Rear diff: Get it off a conti diesel
Engine height: Shift the mount points lower and use the multilink driveshaft that comes orignally with the conti
Clutch: Scorpio or a Qualis

Jaggu · 16th May 2007, 19:19

why not qualis engine and gear box?

nitrous · 16th May 2007, 21:57

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Originally Posted by Jaggu

why not qualis engine and gear box?

Too expensive since its very much in demand . also,its NA. what fun would it be and the engine spares of the mahindra are peanuts compared to the toyota..

Sankar · 16th May 2007, 22:10

I saw a 2.4liter diesel engined Conti in Andhra many months back and that thing was moving fast even with a good load of people in it.

Godfather · 17th May 2007, 02:51

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Originally Posted by Sankar

I saw a 2.4liter diesel engined Conti in Andhra .

2.4L engine.... Which one was this??

Godfather

v1p3r · 17th May 2007, 03:12

OM616, most likely. The one that comes OE on the Tempo Traveller and the Trax.

swathyd · 17th May 2007, 12:51

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

OM616, most likely. The one that comes OE on the Tempo Traveller and the Trax.

So can it be fitted on an amby too. Are they available straight from force ?

Steeroid · 17th May 2007, 13:38

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Originally Posted by swathyd

So can it be fitted on an amby too. Are they available straight from force ?

Umm - people have tried MANY engines on the Amby over the years. There was a chap in Trivandrum who got a court summons from M&M after he started retrofitting MM540 Peuguot engines on the Amby back in the early 90s. He stopped it immediately.

Sankar · 17th May 2007, 15:09

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

Umm - people have tried MANY engines on the Amby over the years. There was a chap in Trivandrum who got a court summons from M&M after he started retrofitting MM540 Peuguot engines on the Amby back in the early 90s. He stopped it immediately.

Any idea why the M&M sent him a summons? Is it against the law to fit another engine if it's endorsed in the RC Book?

ajitkommini · 17th May 2007, 15:44

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Originally Posted by Sankar

Any idea why the M&M sent him a summons? Is it against the law to fit another engine if it's endorsed in the RC Book?

At the risk of going OT, I guess it's one thing to do an engine swap on your own car but quite another to do it on a commercial scale! still - i would have thought it more logical for HM to be upset about this than M&M right?

RedOne · 17th May 2007, 16:28

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Originally Posted by Godfather

2.4L engine.... Which one was this??

Godfather

There is a shop in Chennai (called "Top Gear", no less) who puts upgraded Isuzu diesels in Conti's and Amby's. When my petrol Conti was in his shop for some work, he showed me a 2.4L Isuzu engined Conti and claimed he could get 2.2, 2.4 and 2.6 liter engines.

Gears,
Red-One.

swathyd · 17th May 2007, 16:40

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Originally Posted by RedOne

There is a shop in Chennai (called "Top Gear", no less) who puts upgraded Isuzu diesels in Conti's and Amby's. When my petrol Conti was in his shop for some work, he showed me a 2.4L Isuzu engined Conti and claimed he could get 2.2, 2.4 and 2.6 liter engines.

Gears,
Red-One.

In kerala you cant get an engine entered into your R.C book. It is since 2001 i think. So we feel really dejected. Heard that it is permitted only in mumbai.

Can you give details of that shop in chennai.

jyobeb · 17th May 2007, 17:14

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

Umm - people have tried MANY engines on the Amby over the years. There was a chap in Trivandrum who got a court summons from M&M after he started retrofitting MM540 Peuguot engines on the Amby back in the early 90s. He stopped it immediately.

I had an ambassador fitted with the peugeot engine. The crankcase had to be modified to keep it from bottoming on every undulation. The OM616 was a nightmare to fit because of the old paper element oil filter. The spin off filters made it easier but the engine was still bloody heavy.
Isuzu engines (imported) are available in 1.8l, 2.0l, 2.2l, 2.4 litre and with NA and turbocharged versions.
however in connection with this thread, I even fitted a Peugeot engine in my contessa a long time ago. The crankcase was nightmare in that and hence my personal opinion is that the Scorpio engine will be next to impossible to fit in the conti. There is a limit to how much you can raise the engine too.

16th May 2007, 03:13	#31
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	118NE petrol box will SNAP when you let go of the clutch. 137 D, the diesel version, that box may hold, but then again, I am not too sure. Besides, the ratios will not be too good for the Scorpio. If you can afford it, nothing to beat a Qualis box.
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16th May 2007, 12:40	#32
Kinetik BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 324 Thanked: 7 Times	sounds good, but what about the weight and weight related issues like chassis dynamics, dont know the difference in weight difference between the 2 engines Last edited by Kinetik : 16th May 2007 at 12:42.
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16th May 2007, 13:19	#33
Psycho Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,043 Thanked: 110 Times View My Garage	Simple points here: Gearbox: You need a better box the conti box is no good when it comes to the ratio's the qualis is a better bet or the scorpio's itself Mounts: Will have to be welded well and you may need braces Rear diff: Get it off a conti diesel Engine height: Shift the mount points lower and use the multilink driveshaft that comes orignally with the conti Clutch: Scorpio or a Qualis
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16th May 2007, 19:19	#34
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	why not qualis engine and gear box?
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16th May 2007, 22:10	#36
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,766 Thanked: 9,054 Times	I saw a 2.4liter diesel engined Conti in Andhra many months back and that thing was moving fast even with a good load of people in it.
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17th May 2007, 03:12	#38
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	OM616, most likely. The one that comes OE on the Tempo Traveller and the Trax.
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