5L budget - Baleno put through some serious mods

cooldude1988765 · 17th May 2009, 12:31

If you are looking for a swap OHC with a B16 would be a good choice.
Why not a lancer with a mivec ?

karthik247 · 17th May 2009, 12:36

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Originally Posted by cooldude1988765

If you are looking for a swap OHC with a B16 would be a good choice.
Why not a lancer with a mivec ?

Yes B16 would be a nice choice, wonder if any swaps are available for the Baleno.
Lancer... No thanks. Had it before and don't want another one, mivec or not.

Can someone comment on the cost of doing a B16 swap and the issues with it...

cooldude1988765 · 17th May 2009, 12:40

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Originally Posted by karthik247

Yes B16 would be a nice choice, wonder if any swaps are available for the Baleno.

Lancer... No thanks. Had it before and don't want another one, mivec or not.

There is a suzuki 1.8l for the baleno AFAIK. not sure if they enlarge the 1.6 to 1.8 or it is a completly different engine altogether.

Do give a second thought about the lancer, i am sure every one agrees it handles better than the OHC or baleno.

crazydiablo · 17th May 2009, 13:01

Yeah there is a J18 baleno, but as far as I know no one has done the swap in India. You can do a big bore baleno like Iceman did which give you around 1750cc.

I believe there are a couple of Mivecs up for sale in bangy.

karthik247 · 17th May 2009, 13:04

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Originally Posted by crazydiablo

Yeah there is a J18 baleno, but as far as I know no one has done the swap in India. You can do a big bore baleno like Iceman did which give you around 1750cc.

I believe there are a couple of Mivecs up for sale in bangy.

What kind of performance increase can we expect with the Suzuki swap or bore compared to Mivec or B16.

Yes Mives are available, one is on the forum itself.

mclaren1885 · 17th May 2009, 13:26

Mohit, I would seriously not suggest going the big bore route for a daily drive be it any car. If something goes wrong you wont even have a stock engine to run on. If it doesn't work, you then either have to buy a new block or take the headaches of re-sleeving it back to 75mm. So all the money you put into it is waste. I would always says stick to stock setup, same dia pistons. If you blow it you dont have to wait for ages to get spares.

For eg, I blew the rings on my 76mm Honda pistons and it almost took me 1 month to get them down. Tired I went back to 75mm overnight.

crazydiablo · 17th May 2009, 13:32

Yes I agree, completely agree. Just because he asked options for Baleno I listed it out.

ram_hyundai · 17th May 2009, 13:39

Oh he has had enough with the lancer,Kartik got hold of a 2004 baleno just now,2.6 lac ,VXi,Black,Single owner,I think the car has run 30k,not sure about it.Do some thing on the baleno buddie,I think the only car he has his hands on from the same manufacturer is the VRS isnt it .
ram

iceman91 · 17th May 2009, 15:15

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Originally Posted by mclaren1885

Mohit, I would seriously not suggest going the big bore route for a daily drive be it any car. If something goes wrong you wont even have a stock engine to run on. If it doesn't work, you then either have to buy a new block or take the headaches of re-sleeving it back to 75mm. So all the money you put into it is waste. I would always says stick to stock setup, same dia pistons. If you blow it you dont have to wait for ages to get spares.

For eg, I blew the rings on my 76mm Honda pistons and it almost took me 1 month to get them down. Tired I went back to 75mm overnight.

Completely disagree.
everything availabe off the shelf IF required to go back to stock.
Good power with oversized bore.

srijit · 17th May 2009, 15:42

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Originally Posted by ram_hyundai

Oh he has had enough with the lancer,Kartik got hold of a 2004 baleno just now,2.6 lac ,VXi,Black,Single owner,I think the car has run 30k,not sure about it.Do some thing on the baleno buddie,I think the only car he has his hands on from the same manufacturer is the VRS isnt it .
ram

Ram ji, that is a nice one. Is the '99 Baleno gone?
One doubt. Would it be possible to retro fit Climate Control present in VXi into an LXi. If so, what would be the damage to the pocket?

mclaren1885 · 17th May 2009, 16:20

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Originally Posted by iceman91

Completely disagree.
everything availabe off the shelf IF required to go back to stock.
Good power with oversized bore.

Amit, how many of them have had a reliable overbored baleno in India? From the lessons I have learnt, if you are trying something for street use, try something that has worked for others or something that others have already tried. Dont be the test mule, not unless you are preparing a competition car.

ram_hyundai · 17th May 2009, 16:31

srijit,retrofitting the climate control is possible but its better sell off the LXi and buy a VXi,lolz.You have to change the wiring harness,centre console etc and it wont be easy on pockets too.
Kartik told the 99 is gone,2004 would be a good option,

ram

srijit · 17th May 2009, 17:01

Ah, good to know. And the LXi will remain for atleast 5 years, till the bank loan closes, hopefully.

karthik247 · 17th May 2009, 17:12

Finally decided, its gonna be a Suzuki Baleno!!!
Hope its the right decision. No more second thoughts, will pick one up in another week.

Found two more Balenos...
Both 2000 model, one is 60k kms one is 80k kms.. Both are quoting around 1.6L. Guess either of these is best..

So car should be bought this week if all goes well, now will have to get the parts.

So if the car is 1.5L, will spend around 50k on it to make it look good. So for the rest of the 3L

, do list out the mods guys

Porting Polishing 12-15k
Performance Cam - 30-35k
ECU - 30-35k
Headers and FFE- 12 -15k
CAI -5 - 8k
Koni Suspension - 32k
Brake pads - 5k
Clutch -12-15k

Besides this, what else...

iceman91 · 17th May 2009, 17:18

I have had a big bore engine. Ran for 4 years! Other than that I know 8 other guys running it even today. That says it all...
You had bad luck and your tuner messed up...

17th May 2009, 12:31	#46
cooldude1988765 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,046 Thanked: 213 Times	If you are looking for a swap OHC with a B16 would be a good choice. Why not a lancer with a mivec ?
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17th May 2009, 13:01	#49
crazydiablo BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore/San Francisco Posts: 854 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	Yeah there is a J18 baleno, but as far as I know no one has done the swap in India. You can do a big bore baleno like Iceman did which give you around 1750cc. I believe there are a couple of Mivecs up for sale in bangy.
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17th May 2009, 13:26	#51
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,820 Thanked: 46 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	Mohit, I would seriously not suggest going the big bore route for a daily drive be it any car. If something goes wrong you wont even have a stock engine to run on. If it doesn't work, you then either have to buy a new block or take the headaches of re-sleeving it back to 75mm. So all the money you put into it is waste. I would always says stick to stock setup, same dia pistons. If you blow it you dont have to wait for ages to get spares. For eg, I blew the rings on my 76mm Honda pistons and it almost took me 1 month to get them down. Tired I went back to 75mm overnight.
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17th May 2009, 13:32	#52
crazydiablo BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore/San Francisco Posts: 854 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	Yes I agree, completely agree. Just because he asked options for Baleno I listed it out.
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17th May 2009, 13:39	#53
ram_hyundai Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calicut ,trisur Posts: 2,020 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	Oh he has had enough with the lancer,Kartik got hold of a 2004 baleno just now,2.6 lac ,VXi,Black,Single owner,I think the car has run 30k,not sure about it.Do some thing on the baleno buddie,I think the only car he has his hands on from the same manufacturer is the VRS isnt it . ram
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17th May 2009, 16:31	#57
ram_hyundai Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calicut ,trisur Posts: 2,020 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	srijit,retrofitting the climate control is possible but its better sell off the LXi and buy a VXi,lolz.You have to change the wiring harness,centre console etc and it wont be easy on pockets too. Kartik told the 99 is gone,2004 would be a good option, ram
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17th May 2009, 17:01	#58
srijit BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 598 Thanked: 8 Times	Ah, good to know. And the LXi will remain for atleast 5 years, till the bank loan closes, hopefully.
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17th May 2009, 17:12	#59
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	Finally decided, its gonna be a Suzuki Baleno!!! Hope its the right decision. No more second thoughts, will pick one up in another week. Found two more Balenos... Both 2000 model, one is 60k kms one is 80k kms.. Both are quoting around 1.6L. Guess either of these is best.. So car should be bought this week if all goes well, now will have to get the parts. So if the car is 1.5L, will spend around 50k on it to make it look good. So for the rest of the 3L , do list out the mods guys Porting Polishing 12-15k Performance Cam - 30-35k ECU - 30-35k Headers and FFE- 12 -15k CAI -5 - 8k Koni Suspension - 32k Brake pads - 5k Clutch -12-15k Besides this, what else... Last edited by karthik247 : 17th May 2009 at 17:23.
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17th May 2009, 17:18	#60
iceman91 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: melbourne/banga Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 35 Times View My Garage	I have had a big bore engine. Ran for 4 years! Other than that I know 8 other guys running it even today. That says it all... You had bad luck and your tuner messed up...
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