Dyno facility in mumbai.... Finally !!

paras211 · 15th July 2007, 01:15

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However point I was trying to make was that it is futile to compare the readings of stock cars with that claimed by manufacturers, they will never match!

but atleast they could be withen the 12% transmission loss?

BUSA · 15th July 2007, 12:06

Lets take an example.

Honda City Vtec BHP = 100
With 12% Trasmission Loss WHP = 88bhp
KnN with CAI, Headwork, Wild Porting and Polishing, FFE, Valve Angle Job - Approx - 18bhp
But on dyno its going to show WHP = 88 + 18 = 106bhp.
So wont people say the power jumped by just 6 bhp as no one would waste a run on the dyno to see the stock bhp the car belts out after the loss in power.

Is the above right or am i missing something, correct me if i am wrong.

drifter · 15th July 2007, 12:48

If I remember correctly, BHP means all the losses of power in transmission are already calculated. and thats the real output.

HP is at the crank.

Drifter

v1p3r · 15th July 2007, 15:14

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Originally Posted by BUSA

With 12% Trasmission Loss WHP = 88bhp
KnN with CAI, Headwork, Wild Porting and Polishing, FFE, Valve Angle Job - Approx - 18bhp

You WISH that all those mods will give you 18 whp.

pawan · 15th July 2007, 15:17

could you post a video of any of the cars during a dyno run.

BUSA · 15th July 2007, 18:28

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

You WISH that all those mods will give you 18 whp.

I have written BHP not WHP, and thats a approximation.

v1p3r · 15th July 2007, 18:40

But you've added them on as whp in the final 88 + 18 xhp.

BUSA · 15th July 2007, 19:15

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

But you've added them on as whp in the final 88 + 18 xhp.

Oops My bad, well it was all aproximations just to get the point across. For ease of calculation took the NHC Vtec

ananthkamath · 15th July 2007, 20:31

I see the point Busa's making. Nobody's gonna waste a run for finding out what the stock car puts out unless KS offers to do a before-and-after comparison for one of his own installs.

swathyd · 15th July 2007, 22:56

Dynamometer testing as of now is very costly but within few months it will come down as a result of competition.

paras211 · 15th July 2007, 23:34

@busa but obviously one should take in consideration the transmission loss . a person spending 3k should know at least that much and i am sure karan can explain simple stuff like this to people who arnt well informed

Mugen_Power · 15th July 2007, 23:40

seen the ks website.. its 2 wheel dyno so its not for me or else will have to buy rwd car.

Rehaan · 16th July 2007, 00:21

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Originally Posted by swathyd

Dynamometer testing as of now is very costly but within few months it will come down as a result of competition.

Competition??
Do you know something we dont?
Is there another dyno coming in, and that too in the same city?

cya
R

BUSA · 16th July 2007, 00:32

Well i just wanted to say, when a person buys a car with x bhp and mods it thinking he is going to get 10 more bhp and on the dyno he will get less since the stock power will have a bit of trasmission loss due to which how can we come to a conclusion about few mods working or not unless we test the car before being modded and after.

ananthkamath · 16th July 2007, 02:21

Do you guys think it makes economic sense for KS to post numbers of stock cars on a public forum? I dont think it does.

15th July 2007, 12:06	#47
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Lets take an example. Honda City Vtec BHP = 100 With 12% Trasmission Loss WHP = 88bhp KnN with CAI, Headwork, Wild Porting and Polishing, FFE, Valve Angle Job - Approx - 18bhp But on dyno its going to show WHP = 88 + 18 = 106bhp. So wont people say the power jumped by just 6 bhp as no one would waste a run on the dyno to see the stock bhp the car belts out after the loss in power. Is the above right or am i missing something, correct me if i am wrong.
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15th July 2007, 12:48	#48
drifter Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,488 Thanked: 75 Times View My Garage	If I remember correctly, BHP means all the losses of power in transmission are already calculated. and thats the real output. HP is at the crank. Drifter
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15th July 2007, 15:17	#50
pawan BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: auckland, new zealand Posts: 868 Thanked: 4 Times	could you post a video of any of the cars during a dyno run.
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15th July 2007, 18:40	#52
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	But you've added them on as whp in the final 88 + 18 xhp.
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15th July 2007, 20:31	#54
ananthkamath Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mangalore Posts: 1,209 Thanked: 80 Times View My Garage	I see the point Busa's making. Nobody's gonna waste a run for finding out what the stock car puts out unless KS offers to do a before-and-after comparison for one of his own installs.
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15th July 2007, 22:56	#55
swathyd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: thiruvananthapuram Posts: 774 Thanked: 25 Times	Dynamometer testing as of now is very costly but within few months it will come down as a result of competition. Last edited by swathyd : 15th July 2007 at 22:57.
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15th July 2007, 23:34	#56
paras211 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 646 Thanked: 108 Times View My Garage	@busa but obviously one should take in consideration the transmission loss . a person spending 3k should know at least that much and i am sure karan can explain simple stuff like this to people who arnt well informed
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15th July 2007, 23:40	#57
Mugen_Power Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gujarat 03 Posts: 1,302 Thanked: 18 Times	seen the ks website.. its 2 wheel dyno so its not for me or else will have to buy rwd car.
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16th July 2007, 00:32	#59
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Well i just wanted to say, when a person buys a car with x bhp and mods it thinking he is going to get 10 more bhp and on the dyno he will get less since the stock power will have a bit of trasmission loss due to which how can we come to a conclusion about few mods working or not unless we test the car before being modded and after.
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16th July 2007, 02:21	#60
ananthkamath Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mangalore Posts: 1,209 Thanked: 80 Times View My Garage	Do you guys think it makes economic sense for KS to post numbers of stock cars on a public forum? I dont think it does.
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