ARTICLE: Synthetic oil vs Mineral oil

Gansan · 2nd November 2009, 16:23

@nitrous

Last time I visited the Shell station, I saw the 1 litre can @ Rs 615.00 but did not notice that the viscocity was different. But it was 2009 vintage only, I am sure of that. When I went again yesterday, I wanted to buy it for a friend, but it was sold out. They still had 4 litre cans priced around Rs 4000 and they were 2008 vintage. It was only when I questioned them about the apparent difference in prices that they showed me the chart and explained the different grades. Looks like the 15W50 is made in India whereas the 5W40 is still imported.

nitrous · 2nd November 2009, 18:41

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Originally Posted by Gansan

Looks like the 15W50 is made in India whereas the 5W40 is still imported.

Oh dear!
Not to take anything away from my country. But, It would be like Potenza GIIIs made in India.
I would really like to go through the tech details of both the grades.
Personally, after my current stint on Mobil1 5W50 , I'm moving over to the lighter 5W40.

Gansan · 2nd November 2009, 19:18

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Originally Posted by nitrous

I would really like to go through the tech details of both the grades.

I visited Shell today also to fill petrol for the bike, but only the 5W40 was available. As soon as I find the 15W50 oil, I will note down the API specs and mfg details of both and post them here.

@Jayprashanth & R2D2

I have seen Jaso specs only in Motorcycle specific oils and never in car oils. But the oil recommended in the manual of my Splendor, and what I used initially before the introduction of HH4T+ oil, was just Servo Super Multigrade 20W40 oil, which I am sure is a car oil. Also the oil they change for bikes at the Shell station (believe me, quite a few guys get it changed there) if M/C oil is out of stock is the Helix 20W50 API-SG, without any issues.

Also, I buy oil from the Shell station to avoid spurious stuff. I don't trust the few oil dealerships in my area, and will have to travel to GP road otherwise.

nitrous · 2nd November 2009, 20:14

I referred to a data sheet such as this.

Gansan · 2nd November 2009, 21:36

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Originally Posted by nitrous

I referred to a data sheet such as this.

Where to get that, if it is not available in their website?

nitrous · 2nd November 2009, 21:57

Try speaking to the manager of the Shell pump.

Gansan · 2nd November 2009, 22:04

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Originally Posted by nitrous

Try speaking to the manager of the Shell pump.

OK, will do that next time I go there.

Kinetik · 3rd November 2009, 08:40

Guys try OWS much better than Shell same price

rustynails · 14th November 2009, 01:35

I can get you Mobil 1 PDS if required!

devrajman · 16th November 2009, 16:54

I have read about MOTUL engine oils used for bikes. There is no mention about MOTUL Engine Oils used for Cars.

Yesterday I saw their stall in AUTOMALL Car Expo. They have good range of products.

Website: Motul Engine Oils - Gasoline and Diesel

Can any one throw some light on quality of their products?

Raccoon · 16th November 2009, 19:09

^^^ Is the stuff imported or Indian? Motul bike oils imported from France are the best available. The Made in India stuff is also good, when compared to similarly competing products. For eg. the Made in India bike oils they have are said to significantly better than say Castrol... but not quite as good as Gulf Oil.

I would definitely consider trying their car oils, if they "look" good. Any idea which grades are available in India?

rb2399 · 21st November 2009, 06:46

I am currently using Motul Tekma Mega (15W-40/API CI-4) in my 2.2 Safari.The results are quite good though not as good as Delo-400

R.I.P · 22nd November 2009, 21:11

I was planning to change the engine oil of my Vtec(presently i am using Castrol GTX Magnatec). is the oil fine or should i change it? i believe 15W40 would suffice my requirements as i run it in the hills. operating temperatures vary around -5Cto-10C in the middle of winters to 30C-35C in summers

nitrous · 23rd November 2009, 07:20

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Originally Posted by R.I.P

I was planning to change the engine oil of my Vtec(presently i am using Castrol GTX Magnatec). is the oil fine or should i change it? i believe 15W40 would suffice my requirements as i run it in the hills. operating temperatures vary around -5Cto-10C in the middle of winters to 30C-35C in summers

Magnatec is 10W40.
Do not move to 15W40 since your ambient temperatures are too low.
I would recommend 5W40 fully synthetic oil though.

vdiatech · 23rd November 2009, 13:22

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Originally Posted by R.I.P

(presently i am using Castrol GTX Magnatec).

Hi, I think Magnatec and GTX are different oils? Are you mixing them by anychance?

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Gansan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 3,961 Thanked: 2,637 Times Infractions: 0/1 (5)	@nitrous Last time I visited the Shell station, I saw the 1 litre can @ Rs 615.00 but did not notice that the viscocity was different. But it was 2009 vintage only, I am sure of that. When I went again yesterday, I wanted to buy it for a friend, but it was sold out. They still had 4 litre cans priced around Rs 4000 and they were 2008 vintage. It was only when I questioned them about the apparent difference in prices that they showed me the chart and explained the different grades. Looks like the 15W50 is made in India whereas the 5W40 is still imported.
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nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 308 Times View My Garage	Try speaking to the manager of the Shell pump.
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Kinetik BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 324 Thanked: 6 Times	Guys try OWS much better than Shell same price
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rustynails Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: B'lore/GGN/Jpr Posts: 7 Thanked: 5 Times	I can get you Mobil 1 PDS if required!
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16th November 2009, 16:54	#2140
devrajman BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 505 Thanked: 118 Times View My Garage	MOTUL engine oils I have read about MOTUL engine oils used for bikes. There is no mention about MOTUL Engine Oils used for Cars. Yesterday I saw their stall in AUTOMALL Car Expo. They have good range of products. Website: Motul Engine Oils - Gasoline and Diesel Can any one throw some light on quality of their products?
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16th November 2009, 19:09	#2141
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,849 Thanked: 110 Times	^^^ Is the stuff imported or Indian? Motul bike oils imported from France are the best available. The Made in India stuff is also good, when compared to similarly competing products. For eg. the Made in India bike oils they have are said to significantly better than say Castrol... but not quite as good as Gulf Oil. I would definitely consider trying their car oils, if they "look" good. Any idea which grades are available in India?
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21st November 2009, 06:46	#2142
rb2399 BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 189 Thanked: 553 Times	Motul Tekma Mega I am currently using Motul Tekma Mega (15W-40/API CI-4) in my 2.2 Safari.The results are quite good though not as good as Delo-400
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22nd November 2009, 21:11	#2143
R.I.P BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Shimla Posts: 93 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	I was planning to change the engine oil of my Vtec(presently i am using Castrol GTX Magnatec). is the oil fine or should i change it? i believe 15W40 would suffice my requirements as i run it in the hills. operating temperatures vary around -5Cto-10C in the middle of winters to 30C-35C in summers
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