Quote:
Originally Posted by vabs78 My Kinetic GF170 used to do a 110kph easily topping @120+ kph, it was just 165.x cc. My RX135 4sp was able to do 90+ kph long distance speed and top speed was 100+ it was just 132.x cc
I expect a 499 cc bike to do just 130+ reliable speed, am i asking for much? |
I guess we are trying to confuse between two different categories here. Lets not compare one of the most recent performance bikes with a classic tourer thats around with almost same technology for about half a century.
RE is much better than all the above manufactureres. Its a small bike mfg company whos annual sales not more than 1 months sales of all the above makes you mentioned here including those high tech performance Kinetic and HH bikes. They (RE) simply dont have funds or any R&D facilities to improve and compete with these plastic jap bikes that definately gives you higher topend sometimes. Inspite of all RE bikes are the msot powerful / stable bikes in India, so why the hell they should give you more than 25bhp or a cruising speed of 130+. Market leaders (HH, Kinetic and other Japs) shoud come up with such an initiative...I dont know why HH is not upgrading its Zma to 250CC and gives you 130+ cuisin speed!! have you ever thought of the reson?? Hats off to sid lal and his team who still keeps RE floating around..
IMO, Though the technology is old, its reliable, I have read about RE bikes doing 800 KMs a day without any strains to the engine and that too cruising at around 80-100 KPH. I dont think Plastic japs can do this.
I have friends claiming that their RE Machismo can easily beat Karizma (i guess its better than GF170 and Rx135 in top speed) on a straight streatch though its not a racing bike.
I'm adding a snip from Prodigy350s post (xbhp), he has explained it better.
========
i will say only 1 thing miltz... bullet rocks, KARIZMA RULES !!!!
karizma ain't a sportsbike although it looks like one.. it's a long stroke engine and it's also not a high-revving machine which u expect from a sports bike.it's a honda crf230f engine. so international quality, honda reliabilty, big engine and long stroke, low revving bike, result a perfect reliable bike for loooooong rides.
now comin to bullets and RE. RE will never match the standards set by the other bike mfg, indian or jap.. i am happy that RE are improving year by year and making many useful mods to their bike lineup but as i said earlier in a different thread RE is small company which can't afford R&D. and other manufactures like bajaj and tvs have graduated from makin punny 100cc with the help of japs and it's only recently that they hvae started makin their own bikes...whereas RE is all alone since 1955 doin what it does best, makin bullet 350... it's very recent after eicher and sid lal took over we are seeing noticable changes in the functioning of RE.
now, when it comes to reliability... i am dead sure the avl 500 is reliable... all the problems like piston seizures, oil pumps, battery's are well taken care off... i just hope that the engine clatter is eliminated..
and the std 350/500... they are reliable enough, if u know how to replace cables and other minor tweaks which bullet need....but hey the bottom line is bullet is much more comfortable, more torquey, stable and fun to tour on than a karizma..
and karizma vs bullet.. ccdi vs coil ignition. cv carb vs dellorto carb, 5 speed super slick gerabox vs agricultural 4 speed. cast iron vs alloy, 2004 vs 1955 and it goes on...
but the avl's can match the karizma anytime, anyday and the 500 avl... it
will be da fastest indian bike once it hits the roads...
========
Quote:
Originally Posted by vabs78 I am willing to pay 1-1.5 lakh for a bike which can do a 150kph top speed and 130+ long distance reliable speeds
Well... once I did Pune-Nasik (200+km) in 2.5 hrs on my GF170, I was above 100kph for most of the time, avarage speed being ~75-80, I will love to do this at 100+ avarage speed |
Well, I have read that there are lot of mods you can do with bull on your own. modded bulls can give you around 145KPH after a few add-ons.
Forget about the cruising speed of 130+ I dont see any of our indian roads are ready for that yet and by the time they are ready, I guess we'll have much advanced cruiser like Harley Davidson around - I hope our kids can enjoy that kind of infrastructure in India... and by the way, I have also read somehwere that Harley Davidson is planning to enter India market soon with around 1.5 lac entry level bike. I guess this will be a better option for you and lets wait for that to come.
However, RE will still be around as it sustained competition with Harley Davidson in US and Europe for more than half a centure now..