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Old 29th March 2024, 10:36   #256
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Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF 250 Ownership Review

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The market for gixxer 250s is very bad, have a gixxer sf 250 bought in first lot as seemed agood buy then.
Recently bought a Triump scrambler 400X, finding hard to find buyers for sf 250, dealers are low balling.
Wanted to keep both but having WFH keeping two bikes and a moped is too much.
Also worried about future spare part availability.
This is exactly the thought that swept through my mind in 2024 when my buddy rb2399 swept into my home on his new Speed 400 and told me it was for 2 lacs and change.

But as I said earlier, in 2019, nothing came close.

Time and market moves on. Fact of life. Does not change the fact that the Gixxer is a great bike. Just that there are better bikes now.

And tomorrow there will be better bikes than those that are better today.

And day after tomorrow there will be electric bikes, and I will become Mad Max and keep my petrol burning mobsters patched up through Apocalypse, than be caught dead on one of those wheeled robots.

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Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF 250 Ownership Review

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The market for gixxer 250s is very bad, have a gixxer sf 250 bought in first lot as seemed agood buy then.
Recently bought a Triump scrambler 400X, finding hard to find buyers for sf 250, dealers are low balling.
Wanted to keep both but having WFH keeping two bikes and a moped is too much.
Also worried about future spare part availability.
You are not alone in this matter. I bought one for an absolute steal last year. The depreciation the first owner had to take was almost criminal. He was just about to take his ad off because he had zero interest at the initial asking price which was fair for a two year old bike in this segment. Though I might not take a big depreciation hit when I sell it again, it looks like nobody is ever going to buy it off me

I follow FB marketplace and OLX to keep up with the market dynamics and in 9 out of 10 cases, the Gixxer 250s don't even sell. Their ads get expired or simply remain dormant. Nobody wants the thing even with really low asking prices and it's an unfortunate situation.

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Time and market moves on. Fact of life. Does not change the fact that the Gixxer is a great bike. Just that there are better bikes now.

Cheers, Doc
It's an accomplished bike and it grows on you like a typical Suzuki. I don't regret the riding experience despite some niggles I had to take care of. But the reality of spares, support, resale remains a reality for the owners.

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Fourth Service Experience at Bike Zone

To keep the Suzuki GSXRRRRR's warranty intact, I stuck to the recommended service intervals for the initial year. The first service was completed in July 2022. The second service was completed in September 2022. The third service was completed in January 2023. After that, I decided to stick to a 12 month / 6,000 km interval (whichever came earlier), instead of the recommended 6 months / 5,000 km interval.

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Last month, I took the Suzuki GSXRRR 250 for its fourth service to the Bike Zone, Vytilla. The service advisor asked me to bring it by 09:00 but to nobody's surprise, the showroom and the adjoining SVC were still to be opened well after that time. Outside of the regular service, there were 2 things which I wanted to be done
- replace the clutch cable (I tend to replace it within 10K kms on my motorcycles, plus the VStrom 250's clutch cable is infamous for inopportunistically snapping well within 10K kms)
- replace a rubber caliper bush (I believe that is what it is called) from the front disc

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The service advisor offered me a choice of engine oils. The Suzuki Ecstar oils have been tried and tested. The fully synthetic Motul 300 V2 is an excellent oil but is dreadfully expensive. The fully synthetic Motul 7100 was the third option. My friends have reported excellent results after pouring it in the KTM 390 engines, so I was keen to see what it would do in the tamer Suzuki 250 powerplant.

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After removing and checking the air filter, the service advisor suggested that I replace it, as the previous one had gotten dirty. As for the rubber bush, I was told that Suzuki didnt offer the part as a spare. Only the full braking unit was offered by the company. All it took was a quick phone call to F Motors, who confirmed that they had it in stock. So, there was nothing to worry about.

Below is the breakup of the service bill. If the GST numbers dont immediately make sense, it is because the clutch cable was billed at 14% GST, while everything else was billed at 9% GST.

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The cost of the first service was Rs 814 (Ecstar fully synthetic oil & no labour charges)
The cost of the second service was Rs 936 (Ecstar fully synthetic oil & no labour charges. The cost of spares had gone up a little).
The cost of the third service was Rs 1,146.96 (Ecstar fully synthetic oil & air filter was replaced. No labour charges) .
The cost of the fourth service was Rs 2,769 (Motul 7100 fully synthetic oil & air filter was replaced. Labour charges included).

Since I was last at the Bike Zone, the lead mechanic has changed. So too has the showroom manager and the main service advisor! The new mechanic took his time but the work was done carefully. The service costs are quite reasonable as well. Only the billing took quite some time to get done with, but that is down to Suzuki's laborious processes and IT systems. There is little that the service advisors can do to speed that aspect up. Overall, this was another positive service experience with a Suzuki dealership.
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Old 10th April 2024, 21:09   #259
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Quick Pit Stop at F Motors

Now that the 4th service was done at the Bike Zone dealership, it was time for another quick visit to F Motors in Cochin. They are easily the best place to go to for any superbike (now dont come and ask me if the GSXRRR 250 counts as a superbike ....) related work in the city.

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The only two things which I needed to be done were
- replace the rubber caliper bush from the front disc
- replace the front brake fluid

The rubber bush was probably chewed or scratched by a stray animal. The below part was an easily swapped out.

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Wonder what cat or dog caused this

The brake fluid was replaced and we checked for any air bubbles.

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Fresh brake fluid makes such a noticeable difference to the motorcycling experience!


Here is Sanju's immaculate motorcycle, which is easily the neatest and most specced up Kawasaki Ninja 300 that I have ever seen.

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P.S - Do you spot the little gold bits on the bike?

A quick test ride later, I knew that the Suzuki GSXRRRRRR 250 was all set for the upcoming 550 km solo journey. More on that in the next post. This was probably the shortest service visit that I have had at F Motors. Needless to say, it was another top notch experience.
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Re: Quick Pit Stop at F Motors

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The rubber bush was probably chewed or scratched by a stray animal. The below part was an easily swapped out.

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Wonder what cat or dog caused this
The rubber bush from Bajaj fits most of the TVS and all Bajaj bikes' brake caliper. Check if it fits your bike too. Costs 20 bucks. Any decent bike spare parts shop will have it.
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Re: Fourth Service Experience at Bike Zone

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Last month, I took the Suzuki GSXRRR 250 for its fourth service to the Bike Zone, Vytilla. The service advisor asked me to bring it by 09:00 but to nobody's surprise, the showroom and the adjoining SVC were still to be opened well after that time. Outside of the regular service, there were 2 things which I wanted to be done
Back in 2016 when I had the gixxer 155, had a similar experience at the SVC. They told me to reach at this time and I did, the SVC was opened and the service manager noted down what to work on besides the general services and told me to come at around 5 pm to collect the bike.

As a teenager back then who got his first bike, I reached the svc again on time, hoping to take my beloved out for a short late night ride along with my cousin, but it ended up very badly. Up on reaching the I saw the bike wasn't even taken in for servicing with the mech asking me why I am here. They started working on the bike and seemed like some miscommunication between the manager and the mech that they completely forgot about my bike. This was the last time I visited the svc as back then there was only one near my area and trusted my local mech afterwards.
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Ride to Bangalore

With the Suzuki GSXRRRRRRRRRR 250 in top shape, I was all ready to hit some familiar highways and ride to Bangalore. The key to enjoying this gentlemanly sports tourer is to ride to its strengths, while calmly enjoying everything that it offers. While I was in Kerala, I did occasionally take advantage of some of the inviting stretches between Trichur and the border, if only to let the motorcycle stretch its legs out. For most of the ride, I maintained a steady 90 kmph (indicated) which is the exact spot at which the motorcycle is the smoothest. Anything faster than that is a piece of cake for the capable little Suzuki but vibrations begin to creep in, which is exactly what you dont want when you have a 550 km / 10 hour solo interstate motorcycle ride.

One oft overlooked aspect of this 250 cc motorcycle is the fact that it is extremely frugal with fuel! I only had to fill up once on the entire ride between Cochin and Bangalore. A couple of weeks ago, I had the opportunity to ride the fabulous Suzuki VStrom 650 for a full day and its safe to say that I had forgotten how thirsty middleweight motorcycles and full fledged sports bikes can get! The overall mileage of the Suzuki GSXRR 250 since day 1 is 34.96 kmpl.

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Soon after crossing Trichur

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Nearing Walayar

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Phew! Its getting hot!

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Half way between Salem and Bangalore

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Well, hello there!
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Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF 250 Ownership Review

My SF250 which is just 5 months old, 6200 kms is refusing to start in the morning and evening. The issue started immediately after the second service which was done three weeks ago. I visited Autonity Suzuki service center in Pune last week. The service advisor told me the issue is with some sensor (which sensor he didn't tell) and that the issue is common in BS6 bikes. They temporarily fixed it and assured me that it will be replaced if this happened again.

Two days later today, again I had to bump start my bike in the morning. Upon visiting the service center, a different service advisor attended me and confirmed that the issue is with the battery because the bike makes noise while engine ON/OFF switch is pressed and the screen also turns OFF and ON. I am asked to wait for a few days for the replacement battery. How can a battery die within five months when my bike is not idle for long periods and I am also turning OFF the ignition while at traffic lights?
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Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF 250 Ownership Review

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With the Suzuki GSXRRRRRRRRRR 250 in top shape...., I maintained a steady 90 kmph (indicated) which is the exact spot at which the motorcycle is the smoothest. Anything faster than that is a piece of cake for the capable little Suzuki but vibrations begin to creep in, which is exactly what you dont want when you have a 550 km / 10 hour solo interstate motorcycle ride.
Indeed Neil. My Strom is at its smoothest in around 100 to 110 kmph and beyond that, buzziness creeps in at footrest for the most part, but on the tank (fuel cap and periphery) there is absolutely zero vibrations, even at that speed. Super steady, zilch vibes on the tank -- was thoroughly impressed. If only I had the liberty to speak about the Duke and my ex-Hima at that speed would be a sacrilege..

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My SF250 which is just 5 months old, 6200 kms is refusing to start in the morning and evening. The issue started immediately after the second service which was done three weeks ago. I visited Autonity Suzuki service center in Pune last week. The service advisor told me the issue is with some sensor (which sensor he didn't tell) and that the issue is common in BS6 bikes. They temporarily fixed it and assured me that it will be replaced if this happened again.

Two days later today, again I had to bump start my bike in the morning. Upon visiting the service center, a different service advisor attended me and confirmed that the issue is with the battery because the bike makes noise while engine ON/OFF switch is pressed and the screen also turns OFF and ON. I am asked to wait for a few days for the replacement battery. How can a battery die within five months when my bike is not idle for long periods and I am also turning OFF the ignition while at traffic lights?
If your vehicle starts by a "dhakka" or bump/push start then your vehicle technically is fine. If there is a sensor issue per se, the engine shouldn't come alive even with the "dhakka" start. Perhaps it all points to a faulty battery or improperly secured battery terminals. Topping it up with screen going dim when cranking is a prime indicator the battery is or has failed.

OE batteries are made to a cost. They simply either last or give up, just like that. Would recommend you to replace your battery under warranty -- in the process, get your charging voltage checked, and your bike should be absolutely fine.

Take it easy, and good luck!

Cheers!
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Yellagiri Ride

Given that its been several years since I had last ridden to Yellagiri, the moment TBHian Roomy suggested it as a potential destination for a day ride, I didnt even have to think twice before finalizing the plan. The fact that he suggested that we take the really long way round, only served to make the adventure even more interesting!

After meeting up on the Outer Ring Road, we proceeded towards the Hoskote Toll where there predictably was a swarm of eager motorcyclists that were waiting for their friends to reach the designated meeting point. The ride to Mulbagal was uneventful but therapeutic. Our breakfast at the Mulbagal Dosa Corner was quite good! Before we left, two young kids enquired about our motorcycles and asked if they could sit on the bikes and click a few pictures. The truth is that nothing would have made us happier! They were so excited to have gotten their photographs while seated on both the Vstrom 250 and the GSXRRRRRR 250.

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Breakfast stop

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The Duke 790 has always been the perfect park it anywhere and nobody will notice type of middleweight motorcycle

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The smiles on their faces were priceless!

As soon as we turned off the monotonous main highway, it was playtime for the Suzuki GSXRRRR 250. The winding roads with scant traffic meant that the bike was in its element unstressed and completely unstressed. We crossed over into Andhra Pradesh and then into Tamil Nadu. We stopped at A2B in Vaniyambadi for a much needed breather, before riding up to Yelagiri.

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The mega mile munching VStrom 650 gulping down some fuel while I drank even more water

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The motorcycles taking a break ...

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... While the riders took a break.


After taking a long stop at the Yelagiri lake, we headed back down to the plains to return via the boring but time saving route of Krishnagiri - Hosur - Bangalore.

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Stopping for a few pictures while riding back down

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The 2 Suzukis

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Sometimes the jokes just write themselves!

We had a late-ish lunch at a Star Biriyani which wasnt anywhere close to its former stadards but it served its purpose. Thankfully, the highway traffic was extremely light and our progress back to Bangalore was, ahem, more than brisk! Overall, this was a fabulous day ride to Yelagiri and a gentle reminder that I shouldnt have waited for this long, to return to the inviting hill station!
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Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF 250 Ownership Review

Extremely poor showing from Suzuki 250 twins again in March 2024 sales figures. Even the Strom's numbers are dipping.

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Extremely poor showing from Suzuki 250 twins again in March 2024 sales figures. Even the Strom's numbers are dipping.

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This is quite sad, I started to spot more Vstrom 250s on the road nowadays but given that at a slighly higher premium you can get the speed/scrambler 400 or the Himalayan 450 is clearly overshadowing the Gixxer/Baby Strom. On the brighter side the exclusivity on the road is a nice thing .
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15,000 kms up - Quick Summary

This past weekend while I was on a ride with fellow TBHPians, the Suzuki GSXRRRRRR 250 quietly crossed the 15,000 kilometer mark. Back when I bought the plucky little Suzuki, I believed that I was getting a simple workhorse that would be a little too efficient to resemble anything close to being exciting. It turned out that I was wrong on that front, not that I am complaining about it.

Anyone who has followed this thread will know that I have covered everything about the GSXRRRRR 250, in great detail. If I had to summarize the motorcycle in a few bullet points
+ Very friendly, linear power delivery
+ A frisky gazelle in the twisties (more so, after you slap on better tires!)
+ Stingy when it comes to sipping fuel (overall mileage of 34.60 kmpl)
+ No nonsense choice for someone looking to upgrade from a 150 cc motorcycle
- Components like the front brake pads, chain, clutch cable have noticeably short lives
- Odd break in around the 6,000 km mark after which the engine becomes buzzy on long rides

Back to the past weekend, we spent a quiet few days in the mountain range of Meghamalai. The agenda was pretty simple
- Day 1 : Beat The Heat & Quickly Reach Meghamalai
- Day 2 : Beat The Blues & Do Nothing
- Day 3 : Beat The Sunset & Arrive At Bangalore By 19:00

Ironically, after weeks of merciless and unbearable heat, Bangalore received major thundershowers after we arrived in Meghamalai and began to enjoy the pleasant weather. Well, thats life! More on this trip in a subsequent post.

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Re: 15,000 kms up - Quick Summary

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+ Stingy when it comes to sipping fuel (overall mileage of 34.60 kmpl)
This is great mileage.

Asked my son and he says he barely gets 30-33 in the city (commute and badminton and drums classes mainly).

Higher on the highway, which is very rare for him.

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Back to the past weekend, we spent a quiet few days in the mountain range of Meghamalai. The agenda was pretty simple
- Day 1 : Beat The Heat & Quickly Reach Meghamalai
- Day 2 : Beat The Blues & Do Nothing
- Day 3 : Beat The Sunset & Arrive At Bangalore By 19:00

In the post Covid era, the overnight summer ride with TBHPians has become a bit of an annual tradition that we all look forward to, as it allows us a temporary, albeit much needed escape from the madness of the real world. Back in 2022, we rode to Mangalore (Living an evolved dream: My 2019 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 ownership review. Edit: 5 years up!) and last year, we headed to Ooty (Suzuki Gixxer SF 250 Ownership Review). With this year's repressive summer heat, the mountains beckoned to us once again. It turned out that the mountains were cold calling just about everyone, not just us! This meant that the regular hill stations were immediately knocked out of contention. Trip planner extraordinaire KarthikK chose the Cloud Mountain bungalow in Meghamalai, which is run by the Briar group, and we all agreed that it seemed like a great destination.

The group consisted of TBHPians KarthikK, ebmrajesh, csenthil, rbp and his friend. In the days leading up to the ride, our conversations revolved around the soaring temperatures and hence, the plan was for an early morning start. How early you ask? Well, 04:00 at the Silk Board junction. Yikes! For the return, one of our riders wanted to leave after lunch, believing that it would help avoid the heat and the usual weekend returning to Bangalore chaos from Krishnagiri to the city. Work commitments meant that the plan would not be feasible for the rest of us, but we believed it best to decide once we got to Meghamalai. Last minute work commitments meant that rbp and his friend would only be able to ride out on Saturday, and not Friday, with the rest of us. To potentially throw a spanner in the works, light rains hit Bangalore on the evening preceding the ride.

With that out of the way, its time to move onto the actual trip updates. The absence of aux lights on the GSXRRR 250 meant that I could only maintain a steady 80 to 90 kmph until Krishnagiri, which wasnt the case with the other motorcycles. After Krishnagiri, I tailed KarthikK who led the way with the dual sets of aux lights on his CB500X. The prohibitively early start and the fact that our breakfast stop at A2B was 230 kms away from Bangalore, left me sleepy and hungry. Usually, I grab a light bite before such early morning starts but this time I wanted to see if I could hold out for so many hours and / or kilometers. The simple answer is no! A heavy breakfast at A2B Rasipuram ensured that I was all set to continue on to Meghamalai at the peak of my concentration levels.

Under cloudy skies, KarthikK, embrajesh and I kept riding together on the fairly empty 4 lane highway until we stopped for fuel in Karur. While talking to the owner of a refreshment stall, we learnt that on the preceding day, the temperature had hit 44 degrees! As a result, people had been advised to avoid physical activities, while ironically, the day ended up being rather pleasant. Over the next hour, the three of us motored on at a fair clip and regrouped near Dindigul, where we turned off towards Chinnamanur. It had started to become a little warmer now, and so we stopped for a motorcycle refuel and rider rehydration break at the IOCL bunk a few kilometers ahead of the junction which turns off to Kodaikanal. Barring a few picture stops, the rest of the ride to the forest checkpost was fairly uneventful. The twisties leading up to Meghamalai were unique in that they are challenging enough to lead to hard lean angles but they dont goad you into channeling your inner IoMTT racer. Our first sighting of the glorious tea estates was really special! The drop in temperature was evident, as well. There was some road work in the 2 kilometers preceding the Cloud Mountain bungalow, but that was only a minor gripe in the 520 kilometer ride.

While taking an early evening stroll down the tea estate, I struck up plenty of conversations with the good humoured women who were plucking leaves. They were as keen to know about our ride from Bangalore, as I was to know about their life in Meghamalai. Later on, the newly minted caretaker informed us that the area is (in?)famous for frequent sightings of bison, elephants, black panthers, leopards and tigers. Gulp!

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What 04:00 at Silk Board looks like

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Waiting for ebmrajesh who had to fill up the Ninja 1000

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Finally, hot food!

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A rare group picture at Karur

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Familiar names on the signboards

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Much needed hydration break

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These windmills are mesmerising

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Wallpaper material

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At the forest checkpost

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Enjoying the climb up to Meghamalai

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Our first sighting of tea estates

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Safe and sound!

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Lovely views

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The sun sets of an eventful day of motorcycling
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