[kgt.v8]

Originally Posted by zavegur

I post this now as I have done extensive testing of cars of options- XUV 700, Scorpio, Alcazar, Invicto and Innova, and only the safari seems close to heart.


I am getting a decent deal on safari Manual. And the heart wants it.

Should I be moving away from safari?

Did you get to test drive Safari manual or Safari automatic?

Are you looking at Pure+S manual variant for buying?


As said by @bhaskaracs who owns Safari Accomplished+ AT, Safari is a good car mechanically, suspension handles bad roads well.


If you are looking at Pure+S which has lesser electronics and sensors, then it will be good car to own for a longer time of 10 years. I have seen too many issues reported with Jeep MJD 2.0 diesel engine that is used in Safari.
There are talks around the forum that Jeep might discontinue MJD 2.0 when BS7 starts coming in. There was some news that Tata wants to take ownership of Jeep MJD 2.0.


I wanted a manual car only and showrooms provided me Harrier MT for test drive when I asked for Safari MT. Showrooms do not keep Safari MT for test drives.
Harrier MT feels lethargic in City and Eco modes. The car comes alive in Sport mode, responds to throttle inputs much better, accelerates well and suspension keeps the car stable. I have enjoyed Sports mode on Harrier MT. Safari is slightly heavy and longer compared to Harrier, I felt the engine response would be different in Safari MT as compared to Harrier MT.

If you got to test drive manual, which you intend to buy and are good with the car response and handling, then I would say go for Safari. Take a longer test drive in city traffic to understand the long clutch travel and slightly hard clutch does not bother you in the long run.


Manual Transmission will be easier to maintain in the long run, as AT gearboxes need ATF change every 5 years or so and most TASS are not trained to handle Hyundai AT gearbox.

[abhishek.vnit]

Originally Posted by zavegur

Hi All, I see a lot of love and bad experience on the Safari.
Should I be moving away from safari? Worried as a middle class man who loves to drive and not spend time in service center. Any thoughts much appreciated.

Buying a car today is like a lottery. With the pace of new feature additions, every car from every manufacturer will have a few lemons. Just go ahead with the car which your heart desires, and hope that you get a good piece.
As others have said, fewer electronics will generally translate to fewer issues, but you do lose out on some conveniences. That said, there is no escaping electronics that control engine, airbags, infotainment, ABS and other safety features.
As a user of Safari XZA+O, I can say that the care is awesome till you are in need of service due to a breakdown or accident. At that point, it depends on the capabilities of the service center you go to. Tata (and I guess many other manufacturers) don't have adequately trained people at many of their service centers when it comes to car electronics. They mostly believe in "replace if there is an error" strategy, which can quickly become costly.
Finally, except for one instance of a reverse radar issue (created because I hit a pillar while reversing), I have had a very happy experience with Safari (2023 pre facelift, top model at that time) and multiple Tata service centers.

Finally do opt for extended warranty and get your car serviced atleast at manufacturer recommended intervals. Tata gives a lower cost of extended warranty if you take it within certain duration of buying the car.

[zavegur]

Originally Posted by kgt.v8

Did you get to test drive Safari manual or Safari automatic?

Are you looking at Pure+S manual variant for buying?


If you are looking at Pure+S which has lesser electronics and sensors, then it will be good car to own for a longer time of 10 years. I have seen too many issues reported with Jeep MJD 2.0 diesel engine that is used in Safari.
There are talks around the forum that Jeep might discontinue MJD 2.0 when BS7 starts coming in. There was some news that Tata wants to take ownership of Jeep MJD 2.0.
.

Thank you! I test drove the accomplished plus MT here. The clutch travel is quite deep I agree, however I use a Figo which also has the same travel so I am OK with it. It was slightly easy to operate than the Figo; shifter is spot on, really smooth and has the click sound which is great. Did the bumper to bumper drive in BLR, I did stall it once, but should be a smooth sail as time passes with the vehicle. ADAS was on during this test and it went ahead and took full liberty of a hard brake which freaked me out. With features in ADAS, it may not be of much help in MT particularly for the premium it demands. So ADAS is not in my list. Was unable to take it for a long ride in BLR, we seldom have a road without a traffic jam.

I am looking at the Safari Accomplished variant which has all the gadgetry except the AT box and ADAS. From the sales centres I hear MT is not a preferred variant in Safari particularly the top end.

Thanks again for the confidence, I will let you know which way the decision goes.

Z.

[zavegur]

Originally Posted by abhishek.vnit

Buying a car today is like a lottery. With the pace of new feature additions, every car from every manufacturer will have a few lemons. Just go ahead with the car which your heart desires, and hope that you get a good piece.
As others have said, fewer electronics will generally translate to fewer issues, but you do lose out on some conveniences. That said, there is no escaping electronics that control engine, airbags, infotainment, ABS and other safety features.
As a user of Safari XZA+O, I can say that the care is awesome till you are in need of service due to a breakdown or accident. At that point, it depends on the capabilities of the service center you go to. Tata (and I guess many other manufacturers) don't have adequately trained people at many of their service centers when it comes to car electronics. They mostly believe in "replace if there is an error" strategy, which can quickly become costly.
Finally, except for one instance of a reverse radar issue (created because I hit a pillar while reversing), I have had a very happy experience with Safari (2023 pre facelift, top model at that time) and multiple Tata service centers.

Finally do opt for extended warranty and get your car serviced atleast at manufacturer recommended intervals. Tata gives a lower cost of extended warranty if you take it within certain duration of buying the car.

Thanks for the reply, appreciate it. I do get the message here, its luck purely. My concern is exactly this and that I will have to rely on TASS for any bad luck that would fall on the car, typically you would expect process to kick in in diagnosing issue backed by manufacturers systems and tools.

There are quite a few centers in BLR and going by probablity atleast a handful should be good. Would you know how much the exepected service costs post the free services are? I was advised it is in the ball park of 15k.

Yes extended warranty is mandatory, I plan to avail this. Will keep the thread posted on the decision.

[ike]

Originally Posted by zavegur

Would you know how much the exepected service costs post the free services are? I was advised it is in the ball park of 15k.

Try the TMSC app, from my experience the cost estimate in the app is a reasonably good estimate of what the actuals might be.

[abhishek.vnit]

Originally Posted by zavegur

There are quite a few centers in BLR and going by probablity atleast a handful should be good. Would you know how much the exepected service costs post the free services are? I was advised it is in the ball park of 15k.

The annual service (or every 15k km) cost for me was around 17k, including oil change and internal cleaning (paid). So 15k is a good estimate for the annual service.
The 6 monthly service (every 7500 km) is much cheaper and comes to 2-5k depending on issues and services availaled.

Originally Posted by ike

Try the TMSC app, from my experience the cost estimate in the app is a reasonably good estimate of what the actuals might be.

Since the OP doesnt own a Tata car yet, I am not sure if TMSC app will work. Please correct me if this is wrong.

[zavegur]

Originally Posted by abhishek.vnit

The annual service (or every 15k km) cost for me was around 17k, including oil change and internal cleaning (paid). So 15k is a good estimate for the annual service.
The 6 monthly service (every 7500 km) is much cheaper and comes to 2-5k depending on issues and services availaled.


Since the OP doesnt own a Tata car yet, I am not sure if TMSC app will work. Please correct me if this is wrong.

Yea it did not work further than logging in. Needs a registration number or chassis number.

[spaceunicorn]

Originally Posted by zavegur

I am getting a decent deal on safari Manual. And the heart wants it.

Should I be moving away from safari? Worried as a middle class man who loves to drive and not spend time in service center. Any thoughts much appreciated.

I strongly advise against investing more than 15 lakhs on a Tata car. Their quality control is unreliable, often leading to significant problems that can disrupt your life. If you're considering a higher-priced vehicle (20-25 lakhs), prioritize brands with a reputation for durability and minimal maintenance issues. It is like a stock market investment. If you are lucky enough, you will get a piece that won't have any issues. But in most of the cases, you will have small to large issues (large enough that the car will break down in the middle of the road without any warning). If you are investing 25 lakhs plus, please make sure you invest in something that is road worthy and trustable. Unfortunately, Tata is not one of them.

[spaceunicorn]

Originally Posted by spaceunicorn

My terrible experiences with the Tata Safari 2.0 facelift continue, and Tata has been unable to resolve them.

Further update on my brand-new safari which broke down on the middle of the road twice. This time Tata is claiming to have identified the issue. They are replacing two things:
1. Monostable Shifter: This is the joystick we use to change the gear.
2. Actuator: actuators are like the muscles that carry out the commands of the car's computer (the Engine Control Unit or ECU)

I am still waiting for the parts to be shipped (this as per Tata will reach by 14th Dec).

I was initially given a loaner car, which was taken back the next day as the brakes failed.

[spaceunicorn]

Originally Posted by spaceunicorn

Further update on my brand-new safari which broke down on the middle of the road twice.

My car was returned on Sunday, December 15th, after a week-long service. During this time, the car was driven over 100 kilometers, including 30 kilometers with me. We tested various driving conditions, such as highway driving in both Sports and City modes, and light to heavy traffic, but the issue did not recur.

To address the problem, the following parts were replaced:

1. Monostable Shifter (the gear selector)
2. Actuator (a component that carries out the ECU's commands)

I am hoping that the issue is resolved. I'm planning a solo long-distance drive of about 600 kilometers next weekend (As a precaution, not taking family). I will keep the group updated after the drive.

[Latheesh]

Whoever doing PDI of their Safari, please check rear number plate lamps. I checked few of them last week and found LH lamp loose in all of them and makes noise.

[maynigam]

Hello guys.
My 3 month old Safari Accomplished plus AT brokedown in the middle of the road at 1am.
The AC stopped working suddenly and within 15 minutes I started getting multiple malfunction messages but the car was driving okay, after another 5 minutes, the steering wheel froze with a few jerks and the car wouldn't move ahead. Somehow put it in neutral and parked st the side of the road. Next morning, Tata Assist sent a flatbed tow truck. He struggled to get it up as the car had gone in Park mode and battery got drained.
Called tata assist to send a technician but the service centre refused! With the help of a friend, I was to connect his battery and put the car in neutral to tow the car.
On receipt, S P Cars Service centre in Goa refused to even attempt doing to diagnostics workup as they were very busy, they would only start the work on Monday. It appears that they are extremely overloaded.
Have put a mail to Head of Customer Service of the region and also spoke to him. He has assured that he will look into it.
I would like to know from other members of the community about their experience in such a situation, how to go about it and how to escalate with Tata Motors in case of inefficiency at the service centre.

https://x.com/mayank_nig/status/1872...FRmF53usA&s=19

This is the video of the incident.

[bhaskaracs]

Originally Posted by maynigam

Hello guys.
My 3 month old Safari Accomplished plus AT brokedown in the middle of the road at 1am.

Quite scary really. But I appreciate your balanced handling of the situation. I'd have reacted more surely. Hope you start enjoying your car again.

[maynigam]

Originally Posted by maynigam

Hello guys.
My 3 month old Safari Accomplished plus AT brokedown in the middle of the road at 1am.
The AC stopped working suddenly and within 15 minutes I started getting multiple malfunction messages but the car was driving okay, after another 5 minutes, the steering wheel froze with a few jerks and the car wouldn't move ahead. Somehow put it in neutral and parked st the side of the road. Next morning, Tata Assist sent a flatbed tow truck. He struggled to get it up as the car had gone in Park mode and battery got drained.
Called tata assist to send a technician but the service centre refused! With the help of a friend, I was to connect his battery and put the car in neutral to tow the car.
On receipt, S P Cars Service centre in Goa refused to even attempt doing to diagnostics workup as they were very busy, they would only start the work on Monday. It appears that they are extremely overloaded.
Have put a mail to Head of Customer Service of the region and also spoke to him. He has assured that he will look into it.
I would like to know from other members of the community about their experience in such a situation, how to go about it and how to escalate with Tata Motors in case of inefficiency at the service centre.

https://x.com/mayank_nig/status/1872...FRmF53usA&s=19

This is the video of the incident.

Update: my car has been in service centre for 1 week. They have identified the issue and ordered Alternator, belt and pulley. I can see that the alternator belt has actually broken and fallen off from my car.
I don't understand how they figured out that the alternator is actually faulty and its not just the belt that is broken!
Still waiting for parts and they don't seem to have the concept of loaner car.
Service manager is quite rude and inapproachable.
I am in contact with customer care manager who is giving me updates.
I wanted to know if anybody has managed to get any financial compensation as an alternative to a loaner car and who had the authority to approve it as I am spending a lot on the rented car that I'm driving since 1 week now.

[Abhishek_Garg]

I got my 2024 safari accomplished plus updated for the ADAS features - lane keep assist etc.
It’s fantastic update for ADAS. Highway drive was great from Delhi-Chandigarh and back after this update. Steering turns on it’s own to maintain car within lane if the lane marking is there, which is true for most toll roads.