A 1934 Fiat & other Pre-1950 Fiats

karlosdeville · 16th July 2009, 10:58

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Originally Posted by wasif

It is one of those four door Fiats with the pillarless clap hands type doors. If one was to open both doors on any side there would be no pillar in the middle, doors latch on to the floor and top.

There was a similar car with a collector in Hyderabad with limo styled "jump" seats giving the car a three row seating configuration.

There is one of these cars in Pune with BHPian veldeep.

wasif · 16th July 2009, 11:54

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

There is one of these cars in Pune with BHPian veldeep.

Can you get pics of this car showing the unique door treatment for the benefit of others.

manishalive · 16th July 2009, 16:27

sorry for being

, but was there any fiat with mother in law seat (boot turn around to reveal seat)??

karlosdeville · 16th July 2009, 16:45

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Originally Posted by wasif

Can you get pics of this car showing the unique door treatment for the benefit of others.

Here is the car at a Fiat Club event in Pune.

A 1934 Fiat & other Pre-1950 Fiats-95175.jpg

I don't think I have pictures with the doors open. Here are representative pictures.

http://www.classiccarcatalogue.com/FIAT%201949.html

FIAT 1100 E MUSONE ANNO 1952 / Auto

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Originally Posted by manishalive

sorry for being

, but was there any fiat with mother in law seat (boot turn around to reveal seat)??

Definitely. You can see one example here

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1221515-post52.html

wasif · 16th July 2009, 17:15

Is that a tri tone paint scheme or is the light playing tricks.

harit · 16th July 2009, 18:16

Hi, small suggestion. Why not rename the thread to Pre 1950 Fiats? That surely will make sense and the thread can grow. Contrary to what was mentioned before, there are at least 50 pre 1950 Fiats in India. Several are already seen on this thread. And more will be discovered.

Fiat Roadsters, I know of three, this beautified 503, then there was a 509 in Barreily and a 501, black with Doc in Bangalore.
I also had a 1100 seven seater, it was BYJ registered. Sold long ago. In Pune there was once a car lying with Das's garage, a smaller car MRX registered was with N. Dossa. Perhaps the Das car is now Veldeep's? Or there are three.

This 514 can be made into a lovely car. Important is the price, lets us see whether the owner follows the market price, delhi price, international price etc. One day someone may buy at the price he thinks is right!

Cheers harit

the mole · 16th July 2009, 21:02

My grandfather had a Ballila, I wonder if she still exists.

manishalive · 17th July 2009, 10:00

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

Definitely. You can see one example here

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/1221515-post52.html

Not that big any Fiat small as topolino / 500c with mother in law seat???

karlosdeville · 17th July 2009, 10:56

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Originally Posted by harit

I also had a 1100 seven seater, it was BYJ registered. Sold long ago. In Pune there was once a car lying with Das's garage, a smaller car MRX registered was with N. Dossa. Perhaps the Das car is now Veldeep's? Or there are three.

I remember the car lying at Mr. Dass's. Veldeeps car is BYF regd. A similar blue car makes an appearance in the classic movie "Julie", registered MRX 44 I think.

harit · 17th July 2009, 11:37

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Originally Posted by manishalive

Not that big any Fiat small as topolino / 500c with mother in law seat???

You seem to be really fond of your mother in law. Planning a purchase for her?

manishalive · 17th July 2009, 16:02

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Originally Posted by harit

You seem to be really fond of your mother in law. Planning a purchase for her?

Nice joke, actually some were in north the said car is rotting away.

veldeep · 17th July 2009, 22:54

Here is photo of door and seating arrangement.
veldeep

harit · 18th July 2009, 18:54

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Originally Posted by manishalive

Nice joke, actually some were in north the said car is rotting away.

Please get a pic, so we can tell you what it is. The small Fiat's like Topolino and 500 had a canvas top, maybe you could roll them down, but I am not aware of these small cars with Mom-in-law seating. Go ahead and post a pic.

Cheers harit

wasif · 20th July 2009, 13:19

Interesting to note that this 7 seater version of the Ballila was quiet popular. This would be the third car with the jump seats that I have seen. The car in Hyderabad was in need of restoration but was completely original with leather upholstered seats. if I am correct it had a Maharastra Reg not so sure

The pic posted by Amol is the regular sedan without jump seats and this actually looks like it was much rarer than the limo version with the jump seats.

Regarding the "Mom in Law" seat there was a car, standard i think, with Vijay mallya which had a open rear seat that they refered to as the mom in law seat. i think this is where the name came from.

harit · 20th July 2009, 14:12

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Originally Posted by wasif

Regarding the "Mom in Law" seat there was a car, standard i think, with Vijay mallya which had a open rear seat that they refered to as the mom in law seat. i think this is where the name came from.

Hi wasif,

Your last para is not very clear. Do you mean to say that V. Mallya had a authentic Vintage Fiat with mother-in law seat?
In that case, yes he had such a car but it was sold a couple of times and finally ended up in Calcutta, where she got transformed. It was the same grey coloured car.

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harit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,033 Thanked: 3,281 Times	Hi, small suggestion. Why not rename the thread to Pre 1950 Fiats? That surely will make sense and the thread can grow. Contrary to what was mentioned before, there are at least 50 pre 1950 Fiats in India. Several are already seen on this thread. And more will be discovered. Fiat Roadsters, I know of three, this beautified 503, then there was a 509 in Barreily and a 501, black with Doc in Bangalore. I also had a 1100 seven seater, it was BYJ registered. Sold long ago. In Pune there was once a car lying with Das's garage, a smaller car MRX registered was with N. Dossa. Perhaps the Das car is now Veldeep's? Or there are three. This 514 can be made into a lovely car. Important is the price, lets us see whether the owner follows the market price, delhi price, international price etc. One day someone may buy at the price he thinks is right! Cheers harit Last edited by Rehaan : 17th July 2009 at 17:08. Reason: Thread renamed as per your suggestion.
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wasif Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Abu Dhabi (for now) Posts: 2,957 Thanked: 414 Times	Interesting to note that this 7 seater version of the Ballila was quiet popular. This would be the third car with the jump seats that I have seen. The car in Hyderabad was in need of restoration but was completely original with leather upholstered seats. if I am correct it had a Maharastra Reg not so sure The pic posted by Amol is the regular sedan without jump seats and this actually looks like it was much rarer than the limo version with the jump seats. Regarding the "Mom in Law" seat there was a car, standard i think, with Vijay mallya which had a open rear seat that they refered to as the mom in law seat. i think this is where the name came from. Last edited by wasif : 20th July 2009 at 13:21.
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