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You know what the worst part is? If the senior citizen is well aware of the demonetization their hidden stash (usually a couple of thousands to may be tens of it) is now exposed to children and grand children, this puts them in additional stress, now many would argue, can't they suffer this bit for a greater good? What greater good? Greater good, my foot! Pramod Last edited by navin : 20th January 2017 at 11:45. Reason: grammar | |
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If this was as precious to the elders as to not part with it, then it will be in the fitness of things for the stash to be cremated / buried / whatever with them. Last edited by navin : 20th January 2017 at 11:45. Reason: edited quoted post | |
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I hope someone locks this thread, it's such a strong polarising political subject. | |
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Our economics professor was explaining the dangers of binary thinking, basically about not having the mindset to question official bombast. The supporters have been posting the same evidence 1. No queues at ATMs - right, no one wants the 2k notes and most ATMs are shut, no one in a queue. 2. I was able to withdraw money from my multiple accounts- people without bank accounts would be so thrilled, by the way, if you support the move, why did you withdraw money in the first place? 3. Things are back to normal, worst of all, writing this from municipal or corporation limits, places least affected by the move. I was at a major industrial area last week, shopped with cash and got good discounts. The Paytm and card accepted stickers looked so out of place. Things are back to normal, not in the way you imagined it. | |
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This is precisely what is missing here. No one here, who supports this circus would understand what a common man goes through. There is a drunkard in our neighborhood, whose wife works as a domestic help in 10 houses, she makes 4500 each(that what we pay) but she has told me not to reveal her income to her husband who thinks she makes 1k and beats the pulp out of her to get that for his evening get-togethers. His kids are really bright so the poor mother saves whatever she earns, last time he sold the kids school textbooks for his drink. So now having this money in sthree dhan accounts would be great, or let me think, why doesn't she report him to the cops and face the social stigma? after all he is a dysfunctional father. Things are better in Kerala, when I hear stories of drunk husbands beating their wifes for money in other states my blood really boils, but is there a choice? is the government even considering this? Some might say prohibition is the solution, but hooch tragedies will be on the rise once prohibition happens. we are already off topic, lets hope people don't say heartless things to win the debate. Pramod |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() While this article is based on the jallikattu debate, a lot of the points hold valid for this thread as well! https://www.buzzfeed.com/krishashok/...nuanced-debate |
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Team-BHP Support ![]() ![]() | ![]() Quote: No matter what action is taken to curb black money, it is going to hurt some poor innocent person. Not taking any action will hurt lot more people eventually as the economy takes the beating. Even the most wise/benevolent executive action is taken with the full understanding that it will have some collateral damage. | |
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How will giving a free hand to tax authorities and enforcement directorate affect poor innocent people? Such an action would have definitely caused more harm to evaders than the poor. Black money will inevitably leave a trail. Our tax authorities are capable of finding that trail. Why not use that? Atleast the big sharks would've been caught. Now they are just catching smaller stashes and publicising it. It is more like a PR exercise. Last edited by deerhunter : 20th January 2017 at 12:05. | |
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Do you know how much old currency has successfully made into the system after this move? What is the net outcome of this exercise? and what was expected? how is the collateral damage justified when the whole exercise has no clear mandate or outcome? first it was black money, then it became corruption, then it was terrorism and finally it became a brave move towards cashless economy. I am confused, lets not just say " yeah there was some major communication lapses" or " we were iterating as we moved forward, since no one knew what to expect" pramod Last edited by pramodkumar : 20th January 2017 at 12:03. | |
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Lets also put this hypothetical situation, where in the RBI claims 5-10% of the old currency deposited is counterfeit and the RBI has no liability to pay that off and declares that as a positive outcome, do we have anyone inside/outside the system to even question that? we will have to believe whatever they say. Pramod Last edited by Samurai : 20th January 2017 at 12:21. Reason: Rule#13 | |
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The fact is that India is primarily a cash economy and while there is a very large percentage of people who have unaccounted money, the first steps should have been to tackle the people with the most amounts of black money and to close all avenues of tax evasion. This was not done. The biggest generators and hoarders of black money are the politicians, big businesses and bureaucrats. Do you see any of them running scared after demonetization? Do you see Mayawati, Sharad Pawar, Karunanidhi, Badal, etc running around trying to save their black money? For them its BAU. Secondly, do you feel that the future generation of black money and avenues of evasion have been addressed? I dont think they have been. I see that political parties are still able to receive and deposit black money in their accounts without any fear of the IT dept. I see that our rich so called farmers are still able to launder black money as pure white agricultural income without any problem. So please excuse me for thinking that our government has destroyed the credibility of the Indian rupee, inconvenienced crores of people, adversely impacted business and slammed the brakes on the economy, while still allowing the rampant evasion of taxes and allowing our biggest tax defaulters a free run. | |
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