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Old 13th August 2021, 01:58   #106
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Of particular interest would be the performance of two time Paralympic gold medallist and Rajiv Gandhi Khel Ratna awardee Devendra Jhajharia.

He has bagged the first place in Javelin throw in 2004 and 2016 under the F46 classification (Upper limb/s affected by limb deficiency, impaired muscle power or impaired passive range of movement).

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The event wasn't held under this category in 2008 & 2012.
He's just won a third gold, and set a new world record!!!
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He's just won a third gold, and set a new world record!!!
Para Olympics games begin from August 24, Devendra Jhajharia will be gunning for his third gold for sure but he has not won it yet !! Although, your post will still be valid after the games I am sure
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He's just won a third gold, and set a new world record!!!
Ah, the perils of social media!

The 2020 Tokyo Paralympics are yet to begin. But the gentleman's photo is already being circulated all over with the claim of the third gold .

Hope the preemptive celebration doesn't jinx his chances.
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What Vinesh Phogat has said is truly heartbreaking !!

https://indianexpress.com/article/sp...anned-7451417/
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Para Olympics games begin from August 24, Devendra Jhajharia will be gunning for his third gold for sure but he has not won it yet !! Although, your post will still be valid after the games I am sure
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Ah, the perils of social media!

The 2020 Tokyo Paralympics are yet to begin. But the gentleman's photo is already being circulated all over with the claim of the third gold .

Hope the preemptive celebration doesn't jinx his chances.
Oops!

In my pitiful defence, it wasn't social media but a Google News link. Let me see if I can dig it up.
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Views on Vinesh Phogat, the female wrestler, and the punishments being dumped on her by our petty bureaucrats. Is losing in the Olympics now a crime in India?
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Is losing in the Olympics now a crime in India?
Against the tide, Tata's are awarding an Altroz to those who lost the bronze medal. (as read on social media). Though not big, a far better gesture than heaping praise and prizes on the medal winners.
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Views on Vinesh Phogat, the female wrestler, and the punishments being dumped on her by our petty bureaucrats. Is losing in the Olympics now a crime in India?
The narrative reported in the media is the punishment is not about losing but mainly due to indiscipline with respect to few instances like not wearing official uniform(with official sponsor) and using another brand logo, not training with rest of Indian contingent, not willing to share room in games village, and a retrospective thought that having sub par preparations by going abroad. Last point is not the reason for suspension but being pointed at reason for loss.
I would not get into it is fair or not.
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... far better gesture than heaping praise and prizes on the medal winners.
The winners deserve all the adulation that comes their way, but being an Olympian by itself is no mean feat, so it's heartening to see someone recognize the effort of those that didn't get a medal. Can't be easy preparing for years (for some a lifetime) and losing out on a medal by one spot often decided by thin margins (or dropping out due to equipment malfunction as happened to the unfortunate lady).

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Against the tide, Tata's are awarding an Altroz to those who lost the bronze medal. (as read on social media). Though not big, a far better gesture than heaping praise and prizes on the medal winners.
well done Tata Group for recognizing the spirit of participation & qualifying. Sadly our politicians of all colours don't quite understand this nor, I dare say, the worthies from the ministry that handles sports.

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The narrative reported in the media is the punishment is not about losing but mainly due to indiscipline with respect to few instances like not wearing official uniform(with official sponsor) and using another brand logo, not training with rest of Indian contingent, not willing to share room in games village, and a retrospective thought that having sub par preparations by going abroad. Last point is not the reason for suspension but being pointed at reason for loss.
I would not get into it is fair or not.
@daretodream, Thank you for sharing the data. To this I would add that the physio trainer was not added to the women's wrestling contingent while it was to the mean's team. Why I wonder? She was also not permitted to take along her own physio trainer! All this displays arbitrary rule making.

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I would be very careful to give government bureaucrats, most of whom have never competed in serious sports even at a State level, the power to decide at their discretion what is right and what is wrong. Not training with the rest of the Indian contingent or living with the rest cannot be a cause of indiscipline. IMHO most of these "sports officials" don't quite appreciate the thinking, emotions, mental stresses of being an Olympic sports woman. The haste with which they have shown eagerness to smack penalties etc even before she returned to India and without a proper hearing of both sides at a proper board of enquiry suggests pettiness to wield their two paisa of authority more than anything else. Others may differ.
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What's the monetary cost of an Olympic gold medal?

In India's case, it is a handsome amount of seven crore rupees, says the Sports Authority of India ( as reported by a news aggregator).

The 2021 Tokyo Olympics-img_20210814_103647.jpg

Source: Inshorts

Disclaimer: Not intended to cause any disrespect or cast aspersions.

Just sharing a piece of information that the sports governing body somehow felt needed to be known in the public domain.
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What's the monetary cost of an Olympic gold medal?

In India's case, it is a handsome amount of seven crore rupees, says the Sports Authority of India ( as reported by a news aggregator)..
About 3 cr for Mirabai Chanu, and treatment for her abroad. More than a 100cr for the hockey teams. And the trainings have been going on from before the Rio olympics.

Not to forget Kiren Rijiju's silent involvement in the whole preparations.

We may have seen more medals, but for the unfortunate technical glitch in the gun (shooting), Aditi doing it all by herself - with her mom as caddy, Women losing narrowly.

The next Olympics are just 3 years away. Hopefully the momentum will be carried forward and we get a better haul next time.

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Just sharing a piece of information that the sports governing body somehow felt needed to be known in the public domain.
Have none of them heard of 'economies of scale'?

Sure you don't find Olympic grade athletes walking by on the street and sure some of those expenses will be per individual, but a lot of that amount would be fixed cost that can have far better returns per capita if invested smarter, spread across multiple athletes over an extended time period.
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I would be very careful to give government bureaucrats, most of whom have never competed in serious sports even at a State level, the power to decide at their discretion what is right and what is wrong. Not training with the rest of the Indian contingent or living with the rest cannot be a cause of indiscipline. IMHO most of these "sports officials" don't quite appreciate the thinking, emotions, mental stresses of being an Olympic sports woman. The haste with which they have shown eagerness to smack penalties etc even before she returned to India and without a proper hearing of both sides at a proper board of enquiry suggests pettiness to wield their two paisa of authority more than anything else. Others may differ.
I have shared what Vinesh Phogat has to say over the entire matter and going by whatever she said, it’s a no-brainer that the authorities are on a vendetta mode. No sportsperson prepares for an event like Olympics to lose, more so when the person in question is a serious medal prospect. The incident about the physio part is more damning, if so much money as being claimed is being spent on the athletes, then what’s the point of this pettiness ??

It’s indeed sad state of affairs in Indian Olympic sports. Every association or the other has a politician sitting on top and enjoying the perks and it is going on for ages now. As I have already said, that the athletes are bringing medals, is a embodiment of their hard work and spirit. If there is even an iota of truth in what Phogat said, it’s unimaginable that she fought the quarter finals on empty stomach !!!

Also, the case of Aditi Ashok is also pretty sad. She had to wake up at 3am in the morning for everyday during the golf rounds since her place of stay was around 75kms from the golf arena. Every other medal prospect stayed within 30 mins and approved hotels. She also had a lot to say about the lacunae of the TOP scheme of the government which helps in preparing Olympic bound athletes.

Apparently, she couldn’t avail the TOP funds since qualified for the Olympics just 60 days before the games begin. So all’s not what it seems like. Everyone will have something to say for the medal winners but they will not say anything about the circumstances under which they had to perform. Do give this a read :

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/tok...860-2021-08-09

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Aah, so now even SAI has joined the bandwagon. Of course they would, who lets the chance go by to blow the trumpet !! And despite spending so handsomely, the javelin coach still found the dietary requirements fall short for an athlete of the caliber of Neeraj Chopra. The amount leading countries invest in their athletes will put to shame these officials who are out to tom-tomming their so called expenses. Such pettiness after India won the first gold medal in athletics can only be expected from the officials or bureaucrats who have no idea about how a sportsperson prepares for an event like Olympics
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It doesn’t belong in this thread but still wanted to share this good news. India is the under-18 recurve world archery champion right now. And they are in line to win more golds and medals. They are in a record breaking spree right now having already won two golds and three bronzes. Medals have been won across team and individual and for both women’s and men’s team. Superlative performance, another hope triggered for the 2024 Olympics


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/85349456.cms
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