[mallumowgli]

Originally Posted by pradkumar

Simply put, OEM is not Maruti, Ford, or Hyundai, but say GoodYear, MRF, Denso, Exide India, etc.

Yes, I first saw this usage with the Auto magazines - calling car manufacturers as OEMs. I then thought that I was wrong. And then it was reinforced when the other mainstream media also using it in the same way. Got to know correct usage after I started working for a Industrial product manufacturer

[mayankk]

Originally Posted by pradkumar

I noticed that OEM is wrongly used in the Indian media and this forum.

Where on the forum?
I havent read a mag in a bit, so if you could quote something? This would be a majr flaw in the, er, flow of a review or post, I think.

Originally Posted by pradkumar

Examples from the media:
---------SNIP----------o mix up the term.

Well, that is just disappointing. Again, points to a desk bound non-enthusiast who has been given the job of compiling an article pronto.

[pradkumar]

Examples from the media:

Honda’s commitment to India is absolute, and the OEM is in the process of a major expansion of its Indian manufacturing footprint. “India is one of the most important markets for Global Honda,” said Takanobu Ito, President and Chief Executive of Honda Motor Co., speaking to Automotive World recently. “We will increase our sales target to 300,000 units annually by the end of March 2017. This is three times more than the sales achieved last year.”

http://www.automotiveworld.com/analy...s-long-term-2/

In this context, the passenger vehicle OEMs have taken the lead so far. To give a perspective, till FY10, Maruti Suzuki and Hyundai accounted for over 95% passenger vehicle exports from India. However, over the past five years, their share has come down as OEMs like Ford, Nissan and Volkswagen (VW) have started exporting from India.

http://www.dnaindia.com/money/report...orters-2130875

In the forum, all car reviewers have used it correctly, it is just general users who mix up the OEM term. I don't want to quote people on this.

[Thad E Ginathom]

They probably just parrot stuff like that, without even knowing what it stands for.

I'm going to have another rant about "I'm not sure...."

Just because people think there is something wrong in saying that they don't know! What utter nonsense!

I don't know means, I don't know. I'm not sure means I might know, but I am not certain. They are not interchangeable.

And yes, I'm sure

[jayded]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

I don't know[/i] means, I don't know. I'm not sure means I might know, but I am not certain. They are not interchangeable.

I don't know if I should be going there.
I'm not sure if I should be going there.

Is this one case where it could be used interchangeably? Just curious.

And nowadays I think everyone has little information about everything around, so "I'm not sure" would be the real state of mind in most cases. But then I'm not really sure.

[Thad E Ginathom]

ha ha, never make things black and white! Lesson learned! I'm sure they can be interchangable, but not in the way I see it used.

I don't know how many Team-BHP members drove near my house today. But many people would have said, they were not sure. No: there is no way I could have any idea at all! There are two major roads nearby.

[Thad E Ginathom]

Perhaps sometimes one might say I don't know when not sure, but one should never say I'm not sure when not having a clue.

Anyway, never mind the English! It is good mental practice, when not knowing something, to admit it.

Here's my next contribution to this thread: devices do not conk off, they conk out..

And my next, although I think it is a lost cause and formally adopted into Indian English... things run out, finish, expire, etc; they do not get over. I suppose I shall just have to get over it!

[amitoj]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

I'm going to have another rant about "I'm not sure...."

Have you heard another version of this? It goes like this, "I want to say ..... but you should check/ask someone"

And what is with people calling their loved ones "bae" these days? How lazy can you get?

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by amitoj

Have you heard another version of this? It goes like this, "I want to say ..... but you should check/ask someone"

I prefer that to I'm not sure.

And what is with people calling their loved ones "bae" these days? How lazy can you get?

I don't know: I haven't heard that one. It sounds like one of those extinct airlines from my childhood days!

(Or a not-so-extinct British arms company?)

[amitoj]

Words we misuse quiz

I had hoped for a better score than 25/30 :(

But on the other hand, I learnt a lot from the quiz! One of those rare ones that are actually quite good.

[Thad E Ginathom]

29/30. I got towards wrong. According to them, one pays something toward someone else's fees. I suppose towards is for motion.

Here is my current irritant from the forum pages...

When people say don't prefer, for example, Indian car buyers don't prefer hatchbacks, it is almost always wrong. Preference is, by it's nature, a positive thing, although one can prefer not to buy a hatchback.

I'm trying to think of a correct usage, and, so far, the only one I can think of is denial of an alleged preference:

Thad prefers Tuti Fruti ice cream

"No! I don't prefer Tuti Fruti! I hate it!"

But I'm not even sure about that one.

[anupmathur]

I dare not reveal my score. (Or is it that I prefer not to reveal my score)?
I'm referring to that quiz.

[samaspire]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

When people say don't prefer, for example, Indian car buyers don't prefer hatchbacks, it is almost always wrong. Preference is, by it's nature, a positive thing, although one can prefer not to buy a hatchback.

I'm trying to think of a correct usage, and, so far, the only one I can think of is denial of an alleged preference:

Thad prefers Tuti Fruti ice cream

"No! I don't prefer Tuti Fruti! I hate it!"

But I'm not even sure about that one.

But are not both the same thing; the first one is in a statement, whereas the second one is in a conversation.

I'm just a novice here, so trying to clear a doubt.

BTW isn't hate an extreme opposite of prefer

[amitoj]

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

29/30.

Show off!

Originally Posted by anupmathur

I dare not reveal my score. (Or is it that I prefer not to reveal my score)?
I'm referring to that quiz.

Maybe you don't prefer to reveal your score

[anupmathur]

Originally Posted by samaspire

.....
Can't decide if this is sad or funny!

It is your fault that you cannot see that this is truly SAD. Though I don't know why I'm uncontrollably rolling on the floor!