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I will put in some clarifications here:

1. Firstly, NOTHING is done silently. The concerned member always receives a detailed PM / note on the offence.

2. If you mean silently as in, the community was not informed, I am sorry. But we are not answerable to you or anyone else for a third party's infraction (in this case - Btirthankar). ONLY the concerned member will be informed with, I must add, absolute clarity.

3. Also allow me to correct you : Tirthankar has NOT been banished. He has been infracted. The new infraction coupled with the old led to the system placing a temporary ban on this account. Whenever infraction points go over 10 points, the system automatically places a temporary ban on the said account. This has been clearly detailed in our announcements section.

I don't understand the relevance of the part highlit in bold, and neither should you place any importance on the same. It is common sense that meeting 42,000 members is impossible for all of us moderators. Plus, I do not see why a moderator must meet with a member to arrive at an objective moderator decision. What we see on the forum is what we base our moderator decisions on. We don't let the member's offline activities affect our handling of online matters.

As I mentioned earlier, we are answerable ONLY to the concerned member and will reply to his emails / PMs only.

You obviously know little about Team-BHP's moderation, its quality, commitment or even the reasons why some members have been banned. Think about it : Some members are very vocal about their bans and people like you only hear one side of the story. Don't you think it is to our advantage to publicise the reasons behind bans?

Many members have been banned for unhonourable reasons. Butttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt the only reason we don't let others know of the reason behind their ban is to allow them to save face. It is a matter of respecting their privacy. Believe you me, most banned members would rather that guys like you DON'T know the real reason behind their ban.

I'm glad we agree on something, even if it is only one thing.

The matter is kept only within the concerned member and the moderator team, as a right to privacy (for either side). Also Rippergeo, approximately 3,000 moderator activities take place each month. If we have to debate on each moderator activity with the rest of community, we might as well leave our day jobs. Rest assured, we are only acting in the larger interest of this community and the moderator team is built of some highly distinguished, unbiased, reasonable and intelligent individuals.

This, and the reasons I have highlit above.

Thank you. Rest assured, all major decisions are arrived at after thorough discussion within the entire team of moderators.

Classic example. Yes, you may see the infractions on your account as harsh. But if we were to revisit them:

- One infraction for "Mention of Alcohol in a Team-BHP drive meet to Sunnys Dhaba". This rule has been enforced from the 1st of Jan, and an email / PM sent out to each member.

- One infraction for "Personal attacks (in the Classifieds section)". You clearly went out of line despite our clearly laid out rules & guidelines.

I'm sorry if you find them harsh, but the rules & infractions are put forth in the most transparent manner, and for the betterment of this community. It will be best for you - and other members - to respect them. Remember, if we enforce the rules, we are also the first to follow them.

We do walk the talk, we do maintain the clearest line of communication with the concerned member, we do maintain the utmost transparency with this community, we do speak out minds without bias, we do encourage the most honest reviews (whether good or bad).....That, in a nutshell, is standing up for the TRUTH.

However, if you want us to come out in the open wrt internal policies & discussions, sorry, that has nothing to do with standing up for the truth. Each organisation deserves its right to privacy on internal matters.

Agreed.

Added to the to-do list. For the record, infractions have been ticked for public viewing in the vbulletin system. However, vbulletin by default, allows only what is currently visible by you.

A hint? Our rules are clearly laid out. Please revisit them.

Please don't expect the entire mod team & DBHPian team to respond to your posts. I am not speaking for them, but can presume:

1. They trust the moderator team

2. Whatever they wanted to communicate has already been done so.

3. They don't feel the matter is important enough for concern.

Thank you, Sam.

We have taken an exception here in discussion of mod activities, but this is the FINAL post on the matter.

Just a question, might be off topic but.. If you're banned, will you be able to log in?? If you can then its fine, but if you cant how can a PM be sent to the support team??

From GTO's previous post, i understand that TBHP Drive/Meet and alcohol are a stict NO-NO. But i do see lots of meet reports in which its clearly involved and pics proving the same are posted.

Yes the user can login and can send PM to the Mods and he will not be able to post any reply on the threads and can only browse through the forum.

If that is the case please report the post and an action will be taken against the Post.

Completely agree.

And one can help out in pointing out if he/she feels there is a mistake (but obviously in private). In one case, I had quite long interactions with them and finally the actions (though not to my complete satisfaction) were able to reclaim my faith on the forum.

hmmm... where did the "small car: big doubt" thread disappear off to?
can't find it all.

also, the search limit of 3 characters is annoying. I mean, when searching for something, like 'X5' or 'Q7' it's not possible. Also, why the 10 seconds between search?

cheers

Any update on the above suggestions.

I guess its to reduce the load on server. Imagine 40K members clicking search every sec :)

Also, its to avoid those double-clicks on the links.

When a newbie creates a thread (it is moderated) before it gets public. If the thread gets deleted by the moderator because the section was not under the right category or if it is duplicate category then the whole content disappears.

My recommendation is to retain the content somewhere so that the thread/post contents are NOT lost.

3 characters indexing is taxing on the system.

Use Google to search T-BHP for these. Append the string " site:Team-BHP - The Definitive Indian Car Community - Home " besides the search characters to search only here. (just in case you were not aware :) )

true! then the 10 second thing makes sense - but why the three character limit? :)

cheers

EDIT: just saw Happywheels' post. Thanks mate - I completely forgot google :eek: but was aware of the site searching through google.

Can a log be made available.

Timestamp: Thread created.
Timestamp: User soandso created this post
Timestamp: Thread deleted.
Timestamp: Post deleted

This way anyone needs to only look at the log to know, why the thread is out.
The info in the log can be based on what the Mods deem appropriate.
Flush the log every few days for memory.
Simple text formatting should be adequate.

There should be some level of restriction to filter out right? Imagine giving 2 letter, you will have tons of results.

You can say its same for 3 letters too. Alteast with less hits. Yes, but somewhere you need to mark a boundary right? So, 3. :)

The more the characters, the more effective the search it is going to be.

I am curious, what are you trying to audit???

For questions like the one I have quoted.

It has happened at times that I would have read a thread and it may be deleted. Then I would spend a bit of time trying to find it. Trying to remember some unique word and stuff. Esp a problem if I don't remember who had posted in it.

I am a bit rephrasing some sentiments already echoed in last couple of pages. And I was thinking of asking for this info anyway.

I look up a post, look at the info about the guy making the post on side of the post, and find that he has some infractions. (sometimes, a ban).

How can I find the offending post / thread?

^ tricky one.

sometimes the post is deleted.
for others what you can do is search using advanced search for the word infraction and posts by this person.
Sometimes you get them. :D