[CliffHanger]

I'm looking to admit my cousin in a private medical college in Bangalore this year.

In case anyone has the details of top private medical colleges in Bangalore along with the yearly fee details, could you please share the details to me through DM.

Any leads will also be really helpful, thanks in advance.

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted by CliffHanger

I'm looking to admit my cousin in a private medical college in Bangalore this year.

In case anyone has the details of top private medical colleges in Bangalore along with the yearly fee details, could you please share the details to me through DM.

Any leads will also be really helpful, thanks in advance.

I will let the more knowledgeable folks answer the specifics. But be forewarned that there are many crooks waiting to snare people looking for private medical seats. Please be very careful before committing to any financial deals.

[dsnaveen21]

Hi Guys,
My kid studied in Thane Maharashtra from 1 to 10th standard.
for 11th and 12th PUC he is in belgaum, Karnataka.
For KCET Eligibility Criteria in Karnataka there's the below option

either of the parents should have studied in Karnataka for a minimum period of SEVEN years.

Is 10th marksheet and degree certificate from Karnataka enough for this or anything required.
Please help.

Thanks,

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted by dsnaveen21

Is 10th marksheet and degree certificate from Karnataka enough for this or anything required...

10th Marks card is generally enough.

But there is something else called Study Certificate that has the signature of the head of the institution and also contains the countersign of the Block Education Officer. This has details about the number of years a studied in a particular school. If you have attended multiple schools, then each place should give you a certificate for the duration of your stay.

The blank format must be available from the KEA website. Stationery shops too stock them.

[blorebuddy]

Originally Posted by bharanidharang

Thanks a lot. I will check it out. Do let me know if any other colleges / university cut the ice.

Can you please share which college/Univ you have chosen? What is your feedback of the college? Thanks

[HTC]

@Admin- please move this post to relavent section if this is not the right thread.

Came across this rather shocking news feed about a toddler getting beaten by a montessori classmate in Bangalore. I usually avoid watching such videos as most are click baits. But the school uniform resembeled my younger daughter's school uniform and hence clicked on the link. I was apalled by what I saw. How can kids at so tender age act like that? I am not holding the abusing kid responsible at all. Its the parents, teachers and 'we' the society to blame. Kids are like sponge. They absorb everything around them. I think its time parents think twice before they take their little ones to violent movies along with them, allow unrestricted TV watching, give their mobiles to kids ( just google 'P**n' and it will list all possible sites to get in) and the list goes on.

After the above incident, I am sure nothing is going to change except cops and education department folks will make some more money to not take any action and allow the school to continue minting money. As a firm believer that education is a noble profession which decides the future of a nation, I don't see that happening in our country. Everything is measured by money and everyone is trying to milk as much money as possible from each other.

Hope I didn't make the day start in gloomy note as I couldn't hold myself from typing this post.

-HTC

[mayankk]

Hi good people,
I had a query about IB Schools.

The general perception is that IB is most beneficial for if the endgame is to send the child abroad for further studies and career. My son is currently in one such school, and I worry about the costs of sending him abroad, not of will, but of ability, considering that it's just getting more and more expensive.
How well do kids from IB schools cope in case they have to stay in India? Will they be competitive in exams like JEE/NEET etc? Or is that something only CBSE, ICSE and state board children are able to handle?

[androdev]

Originally Posted by mayankk

Hi good people,
I had a query about IB Schools.

The general perception is that IB is most beneficial for if the endgame is to send the child abroad for further studies and career. My son is currently in one such school, and I worry about the costs of sending him abroad, not of will, but of ability, considering that it's just getting more and more expensive.
How well do kids from IB schools cope in case they have to stay in India? Will they be competitive in exams like JEE/NEET etc? Or is that something only CBSE, ICSE and state board children are able to handle?

Indian education has two sides.

Side#1:
Studying to crack the exams - getting ranks and higher marks and so on. Very essential to get into good colleges/universities. Unfortunately due to the sheer number of candidates, this is a soul-crushing exercise of extreme test prep. Unfortunately the exam formats favour industry over intelligence.

Side#2:
Learning that helps with actual performance in real world (jobs, running a business, life in general). All the ranks and marks you score have little use. Your ability to learn new things, solve problems and think critically, etc. matter a lot.

All things being equal, CBSE helps with #1 and doesn't do so well when it comes to #2. IB would be the other way around. However in real world, "all things are never equal". IB students tend to be from upper middle class who don't like to do donkey work - so they tend to avoid serious professional education that requires a lot of effort. Even if they are not from affluent families, peer influence can nudge them away from demanding professional courses. CBSE students tend to be brainwashed by their parents+teachers that it's do-or-die world out there - so they go for very promising professional careers doing whatever it takes.

As if things are not complicated already, there is this belief that one must go abroad to fully realise one's potential. Many IB kids go right after 12th grade. CBSE students go for masters or on work visa, etc.

It's not a proven strategy but my plan is to continue with IB and look for a college admission in India with a combination of decent academic performance + some funding. Sundar Pichai route is ruled out but Satya Nadella route is an option

[NetfreakBombay]

Originally Posted by mayankk

How well do kids from IB schools cope in case they have to stay in India? Will they be competitive in exams like JEE/NEET etc?

Subset of them do pretty well. IMO, depends on family. I am repeating myself , but summary :

1. IB kids are from families that can pay 5 lakh for JEE / NEET prep
2. They can drop history / civics etc from 9th itself
3. Since IB does not focus as much on rote learning, students do not get as much culture shock in JEE / NEET

They must switch to CBSE / state board in 11th since these are order of magnitude easier (as compared to IB).

Downside :

IB schools have a few students who don't need to study at all. They are not a good influence in school. However, school network is a great help if future business owner of 1000 cr+ company is your school buddy.

[anandhsub]

Originally Posted by NetfreakBombay

Since IB does not focus as much on rote learning, students do not get as much culture shock in JEE

Isn't that the main disadvantage of IB? You do need to be accustomed to rote learning in order to pass JEE/NEET

[wocanak]

Originally Posted by anandhsub

Isn't that the main disadvantage of IB? You do need to be accustomed to rote learning in order to pass JEE/NEET

My experience based on ~dozen kids from our community, including two of mine. We have to separate out the syllabus and the exams:

1. CBSE syllabus is well aligned with JEE/NEET syllabus, but the board exams are not designed to test critical thinking and rote learning helps to score.
2. If kids are only used to rote learning till say 10th and they start JEE prep in 11th they will face the culture shock OP mentions.
3. The main reason JEE prep feels difficult or soul sucking is because, a brute force approach, i.e. repeated revision/tests is pushed. If the focus is on clear understanding and critical thinking, then JEE prep is not so bad.
4. IB and other international boards don't push kids to rote learning, but their syllabus is not necessarily well aligned, external coaching helps to cover those topics. But kids are not shocked by the JEE prep.
5. International boards may over emphasis English (e.g. check few reading comprehension questions to get a feel) and may not cover Match and Science in similar depth.
6. As pointed out, international schools students often don't have a competitive academic culture.

ICSE used to be some what of a middle ground, but it is kind of losing popularity. Maybe best option is to be in IG/IGCSE till around 8th/10th and switch.

In terms of outcome,

1. International admissions, it is possible to get into top colleges with a bit of luck and paying good money for a good counselor. Average college is mostly possible, only money is required (esp. for Indian citizens)

• Good branch in top 10 IITs for open category, even the brightest have to work hard. But everything else is not so difficult for reasonably bright kids with good fundamentals.

[NetfreakBombay]

Originally Posted by wocanak

Good branch in top 10 IITs for open category, even the brightest have to work hard. But everything else is not so difficult for reasonably bright kids with good fundamentals.[/list]

+1

Don't aim / hope for top collages + good branch. This is just not possible for average kid.

Good thing is, there are excellent collages besides IIT / NIT. Saying this as a parent as well as interviewer.

For example :

5 Year degrees in BITS (Expensive at 25 lakhs, but good)
SPCE / VJTI / SPIT / SGSITS / VIT / RVCE / BITS Hyd/GoA / IIITs

[mayankk]

Originally Posted by androdev

Indian education has two sides.
------SNIP--------option

Originally Posted by NetfreakBombay

Subset of them do pretty well. IMO, depends on family. ------SNIP--------buddy.

Originally Posted by anandhsub

Isn't ------SNIP--------NEET

Originally Posted by NetfreakBombay

+1

Don't aim / hope for top collages + good branch. This is just not possible for average kid.

Good thing is, there are excellent collages besides IIT / NIT. Saying this as a parent as well as interviewer.

For example :

5 Year degrees in BITS (Expensive at 25 lakhs, but good)
SPCE / VJTI / SPIT / SGSITS / VIT / RVCE / BITS Hyd/GoA / IIITs

Thanks for your responses.

Essentially, depending on the child, JEE/NEET will present their possibilities. Otherwise, there are a hundred other just as feasible opportunities to study further in India itself. Right?

In my professional experience, the IIT/IIM and other top 20 or such institute pass outs definitely have an advantage, sometimes due to their innate capability, and other times due to external perceptions.

The general graph takes a child from lets say, a Comp engineering to an MBA after a few years work ex. How much should one keep aside, lets say in today's expense status, in terms of a kitty? Any guidance?

[sreerknair]

Originally Posted by mayankk

The general graph takes a child from lets say, a Comp engineering to an MBA after a few years work ex. How much should one keep aside, lets say in today's expense status, in terms of a kitty? Any guidance?

If the kid is still in school, I would say may be 2 to 3 hours per day !! I know this is not in $ terms. Humans are yet to value time and the effect it has on $ kitty one needs

In terms of $ kitty, I would say - as much as one can afford after other necessary expenses. It varies person to person.

[NetfreakBombay]

Originally Posted by mayankk

The general graph takes a child from lets say, a Comp engineering to an MBA after a few years work ex. How much should one keep aside, lets say in today's expense status, in terms of a kitty? Any guidance?

1 Cr

In today's costs, rough costs :