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Old 17th August 2021, 14:26   #241
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I think the first stop can be the local Agri Univ, in your case Pant Nagar perhaps or even a ICAR Pusa, you may even like to contact Horti Institutes in Pune, Jaipur or Bangalore. These guys have done considerable work in the area and will give best advice. You must have checked out NHB site for Govt support as well. I can assist you with drip irrigation nitty gritties, have been using it for last 8 years and doing intensive cultivation of vegetable crops.

Just a point about UHDP farming and other intensive cultivation practices, these are more than 24 hours per day engaging kind of jobs and not plant, forget and harvest type of conventional farming, there is lack of expertise at local level so you will have train your labour in all aspects starting from pruning to pest identification and nutritional deficiencies aspects. Specific solutions are not locally available and have to be sourced from a distance and at times results in considerable damage to the crop due to delays. Such type of cropping systems need very regular foliar sprays which is another area of specialisation and you need equipment and trained manpower. Weather plays a huge part and if earlier you needed three years to understand the crop, it takes couple of more years due to climate change. Since these plantations have a high initial and maintenance costs, few farmers of the area go for it and farming by itself being a community based activity wherein you need support of locals, what they do to their fields impact yours too, things can become little tough unless one is willing to give in everything for it to succeed and then it is certainly well paying. It normally takes more than 5 years to get your head above the water.

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Anyone here has first hand information or is into Ultra High Density Plantation (UHDP) for Mangoes?

Planning to plant a Mango orchard in Western UP and contemplating between traditional way of Mango orchard or the new UHDP way of planting trees. No one here in this area has done UHDP mango plantation so little help here. Most UHDP I have seen on internet are in MH, TS, AP etc.

I want to discuss few aspects like labor/manpower needed throughout the year, drip irrigation, pesticides, land preparation etc.

Though there is sufficient information on internet, still talking to few people and especially those who can point both pro & con will be helpful. Right now most information is about only the +ve side of UHDP and no one talks about the cons or failures in UHDP for Mangoes.

If someone knows of a UHDP farmer in UP area, please do help with connects or even in different states, where I can connect with an actual farmer and discuss.

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Most UHDP I have seen on internet are in MH, TS, AP etc. .
Talking to people will help to some extent, but nothing like spending some time at such farms. If Mangoes will be the only crop, it will be easier compared to having multi-cropping pattern. However, returns not before 3 years.
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I think the first stop can be the local Agri Univ, in your case Pant Nagar perhaps or even a ICAR Pusa, you may even like to contact Horti Institutes in Pune, Jaipur or Bangalore. These guys have done considerable work in the area and will give best advice.
Good pointer. Had not thought about this. Will try and connect with Govt Institute's on this subject.

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.... I can assist you with drip irrigation nitty gritties, have been using it for last 8 years and doing intensive cultivation of vegetable crops.
Thanks!! Will reach out to you on this.

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... Just a point about UHDP farming and other intensive cultivation practices, these are more than 24 hours per day engaging kind of jobs and not plant, forget and harvest type of conventional farming, there is lack of expertise at local level so you will have train your labour in all aspects starting from pruning to pest identification and nutritional deficiencies aspects. Specific solutions are not locally available and have to be sourced from a distance and at times results in considerable damage to the crop due to delays. Such type of cropping systems need very regular foliar sprays which is another area of specialisation and you need equipment and trained manpower. ....
This is the kind of inputs I am looking for -- especially the involvement of manpower & trained labor etc. Thanks for these valuable inputs.


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Talking to people will help to some extent, but nothing like spending some time at such farms. ...
That's also part of the plan.
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This is the kind of inputs I am looking for -- especially the involvement of manpower & trained labor etc. .
It is very rare to find good farm hands, who will do their work well. I hope you are not planning to do remote farming.

Also, any reason to focus on one crop ? It's kind of putting all eggs in one basket.
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A cousin of mine got training on the ZBNF- Zero Budget Natural Farming method and bought a land outside his city just explore a new avenue.

Urbans going agri..
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This is the kind of inputs I am looking for -- especially the involvement of manpower & trained labor etc. .
Khan saab - to add to this point: getting non-trained labour and training them will not be easy. They are so used to doing things the conventional way, that every step /task they will try to go back to what they have always been doing. So you would need some one dedicated and expert person to supervise un-trained labour, till they change their ways.

And the point about turn-over in work force will always be there.

Do double check on the business plan. Investment, RoI, what you want from it and by when. And please be conservative on the time-lines + returns. Every single aspect is best done by personal full time involvement, especially at the start. Once things stabilize, then a bit of relaxation may be allowed.
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