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Old 17th August 2021, 14:27   #106
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Interesting.. Since the dude mentions the dealers in his vlogs he gets them new clientele.. Does he still have his GSXR so it stayed with him briefly in a similar way?

I have seen so many comments from potential owners from other states willing to buy a bike by just looking at pictures and posts which says, well kept, loaded with lacs of accessories and professional packing and delivery across India
That dude - the less we discuss the better. I am doubtful if he actually owns anything. I know he owns that red Busa, but nothing else. He doesn't get any new clientele, other than promoting the bikes for a fixed cost per month. That is why all his videos are with NS One. When I got my 1198SP, he went around telling everyone that he referred me to the dealer. The true story is I had gone to NS One to buy the Brutale 1090RR, saw the 1198SP, liked it, paid for the deposit that very day. The bike had literally rolled in to the shop 1 day before and I bought it the next day. So no, this man lives in his own fantasy. But he has his fan followers.

I don't think NS one does a bad job in putting up the pics and the comments plus pricing and the accessories. They were open and ok to do business with. But stunts like this tarnish the brand value and reputation. They can just mention that the bike was loaned out or sold to someone who returned it. Concealing information that is out in the open just makes you look foolish.

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Its out of state (GJ plate). I know the original owner very well. The bike was put up for sale last year in Feb 2020. Its a clean bike. It was sold to someone in Delhi, but before the sale concluded, the owner of NS One took the bike out for riding and low sided it. (You can see previous sale post of the bike on NS One FB page - scroll to Feb 2020)
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You might be already aware that there is another MV Agusta F4 for sale with NS.One guys. I saw the F4 on display earlier today
It seems this bike is also sold to a prominent member of a Delhi superbike group! Assuming he must have got it at a bargain.
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Yep it did. A prominent doctor (he's my friend and I ride with him occasionally) took the bike home. He was looking for the F4 for a while. Kudos to him. I wish him well. He is very knowledgeable and will take good care of the bike. Might meet up with him later on my F4.
Does this gentleman go with handle of superbikedoctor on Instagram, saw some photos on Insta today. Hopefully F4 gets a lot of love and rides around for long time to come.
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Does this gentleman go with handle of superbikedoctor on Instagram, saw some photos on Insta today. Hopefully F4 gets a lot of love and rides around for long time to come.
Yep he does. His name is Dr Arun Thareja and he is the creator of the Delhi riding group called GODS (Group of Delhi Superbikers). A wonderful group that does very safe controlled riding and it is a pleasure to interact with the members. I am sure some of them are active on Team-BHP.

On a personal note, he is a renowned surgeon and attended to my mother. A true gentleman and a promoter of safe and skilled riding in NCR. I am sure the F4 will get much love and care from him. It found the right home.

The group page link

https://www.gods.co.in/

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Old 19th August 2021, 15:28   #110
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Ok, some quick updates

My F4 is back home. I ran some more diagnostic tests and realized that the manual tensioner doesn't account for the slack at lower RPM. Should not be a problem, but I will consult with some MV owners on whether to switch back to the auto tensioner or keep the manual when I do the next servicing after 10,000 km. The coolant was refilled correctly and bike is running well.

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The F4 back at my garage. When I showed the pictures to my brother, he said it resembles Afghanistan now, with all the bikes suddenly covered in hijab (my brother has a twisted and dark sense of humor). Apologies for the joke and I hope no offense is taken.

In other news, I realized that I should invest in a car on which I can tow my bikes. I am either riding my bikes to my FNG or at the mercy of a tow truck. Half the time I hear from the tow truck guys that they are in Rajasthan and it will take them 6 hours to reach Delhi. Also I actually need a car that can tow bikes for my new motorcycle business that I am setting up.

Went looking for one, and settled on a gently used 2017 Isuzu D Max with 50k km. The previous owner is based in Gurgaon and used the car for transporting his espresso machines. I got the D-Max V-Cross Z 4x4 MT. I removed the top box, installed anti slip floor panels and now I asked a local workshop to make a motorized bike loader for me. The back has ample space to hold two bikes. I will post pictures once the contraption is ready. I can load and unload bikes with an electric winch and won't need assistance. I am not going to post any reviews of the Isuzu, because it's nothing special and I am not a car guy.

I test drove the 2021 Highlander and decided its not worth to shell out 17 lacs ex showroom price on the new base model when I can get the 2017 higher spec model for much cheaper. Plus the car has full service records with the Isuzu dealer, went through its 50k servicing and has new tires. A very clean car especially for Delhi.

It rained a lot when I was test drove the Isuzu. I took it to a nearby field to check the off road and 4 X 4 capabilities

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The box at the back which I removed

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Comparison with the new highlander. The dealer got the demo model over.

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Removed the box and changing the panels

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Final look for now. Will add some company stickers and probably extra lights, bull bar and some other bric brac

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Well that's it for the F4 now.

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Old 14th October 2022, 11:26   #111
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It has been more than one year since I last posted any updates on the F4.

I was waiting for an air filter, oil filter, a few performance parts, and new clutch to carry out upgrades on it.

The bike was not ridden for the past few months due to the terrible weather. I use this bike sparingly as I like to pamper it. With the winter riding season soon approaching, I decided to get down and dirty and carry out the much needed upgrades.

1. Air Filter

I never knew searching an air filter is going to be such a challenging experience. But boy, I learned so much about filters. I can now write a dissertation on it.

The F4's original oem filter is not available. The supplier doesn't make it anymore and you have to wait months from your order. After market options are BMC, DNA and Sprint. BMC and DNA only made filters for 2010-12 models, while the F4 underwent slight changes in the 2013-17 version. So BMC and DNA were out. Also, BMC needs yearly cleaning with the filter oil and I prefer to just clean using soap, water and air. I heard a lot of good things about Sprint, especially as they are now the product partner of Ducati and Aprilia and the EU spec bikes are installed with Sprint air filter. Even Akrapovic uses Sprint for its full system exhausts. The filter is priced slightly higher than BMC (between 6.5 - 10k INR, depending on bike model) but it performs better and has lifetime warranty + usage so that suited me. It is made of polymer instead of paper and has a much higher filtration rate, which is well suited for our Indian road conditions. So ordered the filter.

And then I found out that Sprint only makes the race spec filter for the F4. The race spec is a Carbon Fiber edition that costs a cool Rs 35,000 before GST, duty and shipping. It has a much higher filtration rate and claims to bump the engine HP by 5 horses. The ECU does not need to be remapped. With no other choice in the market, I clicked on the buy now button and felt my savings flush down the toilet. Not that I needed extra 5 hp. It's either buy the Sprint Filter, or chase the OEM supplier for months, or years.

When the filter arrived, the landing price was a mind numbing, eye watering Rs 56,000. Yes, you read that right. I didn't add an extra zero. This is the price for an off the shelf air filter for a limited production Italian hyperbike that is no longer sold in the market.

https://www.sprintfilter.net/motorcy...ir-filter)/821

2. Oil filter

Again the OEM oil filter was not an option as I had to wait months from the manufacturer. A quick google search showed me that HiFlo made filters for the F4. And the best bit, it's available in India through Motousher. They had the last 2 pieces in stock, so quickly bought those for Rs 1,000 each.

3. Headlight protector

The F4 headlight is one single unit. If you have to replace the glass cover, you have to buy the whole unit. This is really bad designing from the Italians. I am paranoid about stone chips or road debris flicking on to the glass cover and cracking it. I was searching for custom headlight protectors, and fortunately came across this awesome company located in Australia called Zed that makes acrylic headlight protectors. They make for a wide variety of bikes, so I ordered for the F4, Brutale and 1198. It is reasonably priced, and with the shipping and taxes, came at a much lower rate than my Sprint Filter bombastic purchase.

4. Lightech lever protectors

I have a thing for Lightech. I love the brand quality, the designs and the fact that they have a huge part list for customizing bikes. TBHPian Rohan Dheeman also uses the brand for his BMW S1000RR and I wanted to get lever protectors. My major gripe riding in India is the traffic that comes from the sides and often bumps against you at signals or standstill traffic. Tipping over and damaging my clutch or brake lever will put the bike instantly out of action and it's better to have the levers protected. I ordered the aluminum lever protectors from Lightech. Boy, they really look good and change the visual aspect of the bike.

5. STM Evo Slipper Clutch

I had no intention of installing an aftermarket clutch. But the unfortunate reality is that, this bike, under its previous owner was handed to several influencers who promptly did cold starts and revs, thereby ruining the clutch plates and the clutch assembly. I was aware of this issue when I bought the bike and was considering the correct course of action. Again, for this bike, the OEM clutch assembly is hard to get so aftermarket is the only way to go.

Among aftermarket specialists, STM is the most reputable manufacturer of clutches. Unfortunately STM is not available in India and the F4 clutch is always on pre-order with overseas vendors.

I called my brother and asked for his assistance. He used his network, and procured a WSBK race spec STM Evo wet slipper clutch for the bike. The thing took 3 months to manufacture. When I received it, I raced to my FNG to install it, and promptly forgot to take any pictures. Changed the clutch plates also - got the ones from New Fren.

The clutch was a pricey item but it's expected as both OEM and aftermarket clutches are an expensive affair. The tab on this metallic gizmo was a punitive Rs 1.1 lacs.

https://www.stmitaly.com/s-mvf4100rr_en.html

Morale of my story is - take care of your clutch.

Finally, got the bike ceramic coated. All things completed, the bike looks rather dapper. I still have a few bits I want to work on, but it is minor in the grand scheme of things.

Below are the pics of the finished product.

The super crazy carbon fiber Sprint Air Filter and the box it comes in

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Working on the OEM clutch and replacing with the STM (don't have the STM in the picture)

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Lightech and Zed protectors attached

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Final result

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Lightech lever protectors.
Fantastic no_fear, your bike/s look absolutely stunning, work of art in itself. You literally give “blood, sweat and tears” proper meaning in maintaining your bikes

I guess these Lightech lever protectors cannot be fitted on bikes with bar end mirrors like the Triumph Street Triple RS or is there a workaround. I did a search, Custom Elements has some but only for BMW’s and Kawasaki’s.

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I guess these Lightech lever protectors cannot be fitted on bikes with bar end mirrors like the Triumph Street Triple RS or is there a workaround. I did a search, Custom Elements has some but only for BMW’s and Kawasaki’s.
No, they can be. The protector is universal, it's the adaptor that you need to install the bar end mirrors. If you need assistance, pm me, and I will help you out.
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I am glad the F4RR has found a home in your garage as you knew exactly what you were getting into in terms of time and upkeep maintenance cost the bike would demand and you would not cut corners, which many owners do sadly including the previous owner of this one.

With the import duty structure we have and dealership and part availability issues we face with such exotic bikes its a challenge for even enthusiastic owners to maintain such machines in top shape always as its not easy for everyone to stomach the up keep costs involved.

The last time I imported bike parts was almost a decade back and some of them are still lying around despite me paying a bomb for them then but at least they are appreciating in value as these are just too hard or next to impossible to source new now.

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That is one beautiful looking motorcycle no_fear. I have no fear in saying that it's any day better looking than what Bologna churns out-pun intended.
It has been my dream bike for a very long time and probably would remain so for the foreseeable future. Out of curiosity- how many miles on average do you manage to put on your bikes? Looking at their condition seems they get polished more than ridden- nothing wrong in that, I probably would not ride the F4 at all lest I need a new air filter.
At that price that filter better filter pure oxygen so you can use it during the next covid wave
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Out of curiosity- how many miles on average do you manage to put on your bikes? Looking at their condition seems they get polished more than ridden- nothing wrong in that, I probably would not ride the F4 at all lest I need a new air filter.
At that price that filter better filter pure oxygen so you can use it during the next covid wave


Lol at your pun. Well put. I quite enjoyed it. Regarding your question, I ride about 400-500 km a month on each of my bikes. The issue on riding over weekends is the police harassment on bikers. So I have to really plan my rides. But whenever I take my bikes out, I ride at least 70-100 km minimum.

Regarding the air filter - I was hoping it prints money, given the cost. Sheesh!! Unfortunately, with rampant inflation, USDINR rates, and shipping costs, it is very hard to source for parts that are reasonable.

I do like working on my bikes a lot. I spend my weekends cleaning, polishing, and prepping them so they are always tidy. It's my stress relief and OCD. I am very particular about my bikes, to the point where my social life takes a back seat.

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I ride about 400-500 km a month on each of my bikes. The issue on riding over weekends is the police harassment on bikers. So I have to really plan my rides. But whenever I take my bikes out, I ride at least 70-100 km minimum.
That's the nice number when you consider you've multiple exotics in your stable. That's about 2500 kms a month in total.

In my case, 3.5 years of ownership of Multistrada resulted in total mileage of 32K Kms. That too 3 long rides of 8000 Kms each. So hypothetically speaking, covered almost 24000 Kms in 70 days.

Sorry for hijacking your thread.
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@no-fear - All you need to do is put more pics of your F4 and not say a word What a beauty - probably the most beautiful motorcycle design of all time. If I do win a lottery someday, will somehow get hold of a F4 and Park it in the living room! Thanks for sharing your updates on this wonderful machine. Too bad MV chickened out on India.

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That is one beautiful looking motorcycle no_fear. I have no fear in saying that it's any day better looking than what Bologna churns out-pun intended.
Haha. Agree. I think I would rate the MV F4 > Ducati 916. Not sure what Massimo Tamburini thinks though.
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Lol at your pun. Well put. I quite enjoyed it. Regarding your question, I ride about 400-500 km a month on each of my bikes. The issue on riding over weekends is the police harassment on bikers. So I have to really plan my rides. But whenever I take my bikes out, I ride at least 70-100 km minimum.

Regarding the air filter - I was hoping it prints money, given the cost. Sheesh!! Unfortunately, with rampant inflation, USDINR rates, and shipping costs, it is very hard to source for parts that are reasonable.

I do like working on my bikes a lot. I spend my weekends cleaning, polishing, and prepping them so they are always tidy. It's my stress relief and OCD. I am very particular about my bikes, to the point where my social life takes a back seat.
Awesome post @nofear. Any chance I can see these beauties in the flesh in the not so distant future?
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Awesome post @nofear. Any chance I can see these beauties in the flesh in the not so distant future?
Not a problem. Give me a few weeks, I will try to organize something and invite you.
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