Opinion wanted - Dicor VX 4X4 vs Endeavour XLT 4X4...updated Now Booked Dicor VX 4X

suman · 5th September 2006, 15:48

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Originally Posted by iraghava

But one drawback could be that you would have to do a lot of R&D for TATA, so beware of that when buying a car with a new engine as TATA will outsource some development work to you too!!

You said it

, which is why I'd probably be better off going for the existing 3 litre behemoth! Even one year plus down the road, they continue to have the same niggling issues though...ABS, power windows et al....its a feeling of Deja Vu!!

Steeroid · 5th September 2006, 18:12

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Originally Posted by suman

You said it

, which is why I'd probably be better off going for the existing 3 litre behemoth!

Try finding a good used one that has done at least 10k kms. The engine is really tight early on and smoothens out as it logs in the kms - mine's revving a lot better after 20k and I expect it to start hitting its prime after about 30k.

gbpscars · 5th September 2006, 18:33

4x4,...? are you looking at off-roading really when you say "go to the mountains"? both the huge beasts listed here are too underpowered with a eye-wash add-on labeled 4x4.

If you want to go to the mountains (read as: go and stay in a resort with your family well above Mean Sea Level), and still care for safety,... think about the Honda CRV. This satisfies all of your needs.

If you want to impress people with lots of metal and nothing inside the hood to pull all that, with a flashy silver label saying 4x4,... then out of both your choices the Endeavour is a better one.

Steeroid · 5th September 2006, 18:40

*POST DELETED* I think Suman knows what he wants.

gbpscars · 5th September 2006, 18:53

* Thanks for the delete* Steeriod, me too delete this one, I only posted my opinion in a public opinion poll. Sorry to the those who own these vehicles already.

finneyp · 5th September 2006, 20:23

My money would go for Endeavor, Ford cars are more reliable than Tata cars!

harsh87 · 5th September 2006, 20:27

i've been through the same dilemma in the past few days

test drove a lot of cars i.e tucson, crv, safari, scorpio and safari

the best of the lot is crv
but our primary requirement being a seven seater tucson, crv is ruled out

well i dont have much trust on scorpio so the choice was b/w

safari , endeavour and innova

i didnt like the ride on safari and endeavour

plus the rear seat is rubbish

endeavour has a ladder chasis which is wayyyyy obselete

safari's dicor engine is not much a difference than its predecessor

i already have an innova in my dad's company so have driven it a few times

and the car is simply amazing

perfect in every way except the exterior looks
check out its interior, the refined engine

the gears are short but it is pleasent to drive in traffic

you dont get the feeling youre driving a big car

so finally we've decided for an innova and ill get a body kit and alloys put on
to compensate for its bland looks

M516 · 5th September 2006, 20:29

undoubtedly the Endeavour.
No comparison between the Dicor and the Endeavour

Cheers
M516

danlalan · 5th September 2006, 20:54

both are bad....but then the tata ....would be a winner in this..since its much cheaper than fords biggie.....and its tata...so spares should be a lot cheaper than the fords.

suman · 6th September 2006, 10:35

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Originally Posted by gbpscars

4x4,...? are you looking at off-roading really when you say "go to the mountains"? both the huge beasts listed here are too underpowered with a eye-wash add-on labeled 4x4.

If you want to go to the mountains (read as: go and stay in a resort with your family well above Mean Sea Level), and still care for safety,... think about the Honda CRV. This satisfies all of your needs.

If you want to impress people with lots of metal and nothing inside the hood to pull all that, with a flashy silver label saying 4x4,... then out of both your choices the Endeavour is a better one.

Definitely off-roading ability to take me out of trouble once in a while when I venture beyond the resort

Maybe I'm biased but I would hesitate to take a Honda CRV to some of the corners of Himachal (and beyond) that I've been to......wouldn't hesitate to take the Dicor or Endy though. I would also have to be as careful with the CRV in day to day city driving as with the Fiesta simply because its not the kind of vehicle with which you can "carve a road" through traffic

Besides......diesel remember? Can't afford a 7 kmpl petrol guzzling beast....would rather retain the Ikon then with its 10kmpl plus!

No offense to any CRV owners by the way

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Originally Posted by harsh87

safari's dicor engine is not much a difference than its predecessor

Congrats on your decision to buy the Innova but are you sure about above statement?

Dragonov · 7th September 2006, 17:42

Go for the Dicor Suman... Nothing comes close to the plush ride it offers on our roads and spaciousness. I get a mileage of 11 in the city and 14 on the highways. I commute daily for about 80kms through the NCR traffic and yes it does make a difference to your fuel bill when you switch to diesel power as I too did so from my Ikon apart from tackling the mad delhi traffic ( moreover the Cabbies )...

Steeroid · 7th September 2006, 18:07

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Originally Posted by Dragonov

I get a mileage of 11 in the city and 14 on the highways.

How come I never see these figures that everyone else seems to be getting?

suman · 7th September 2006, 18:21

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Originally Posted by Dragonov

Go for the Dicor Suman... Nothing comes close to the plush ride it offers on our roads and spaciousness. I get a mileage of 11 in the city and 14 on the highways. I commute daily for about 80kms through the NCR traffic and yes it does make a difference to your fuel bill when you switch to diesel power as I too did so from my Ikon apart from tackling the mad delhi traffic ( moreover the Cabbies )...

Thanks for your inputs and its good to hear of another bhpian doing that kind of daily mileage...thought I was the only lunatic around these parts covering that much every day!

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Originally Posted by steeroid

How come I never see these figures that everyone else seems to be getting?

Because you are spending most of your time chasing RDs at 140 kmph

???

jyobeb · 7th September 2006, 23:35

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Originally Posted by Steeroid

How come I never see these figures that everyone else seems to be getting?

So how much are you getting steer? I got 7.8 in my last fill up inside the city and 11.5 on my trip to kottayam. Actually not so bad for the monster, and I constantly red line. (If u can call 3000 rpm a redline!!!)

v1p3r · 8th September 2006, 01:38

Go for the Dicor, boss. I've fallen in love with it. I'm thinking of various ways to sway my family away from the Verna to this behemoth. And you can lord it over Endys, Tucsons, Prados, and all those shorter forms of life.

Once the 2.2 comes out, and if Tata can improve quality by another 15-20%, I see no reason why anyone would buy any other SUV. The car is terrific VFM even right now.

View Poll Results: Safari Dicor VX 4X4 or Endeavour XLT 4X4
Endeavour XLT 4X4	33	38.82%
Safari Dicor VX 4X4	52	61.18%
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5th September 2006, 18:33	#18
gbpscars BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 402 Thanked: 5 Times	4x4,...? are you looking at off-roading really when you say "go to the mountains"? both the huge beasts listed here are too underpowered with a eye-wash add-on labeled 4x4. If you want to go to the mountains (read as: go and stay in a resort with your family well above Mean Sea Level), and still care for safety,... think about the Honda CRV. This satisfies all of your needs. If you want to impress people with lots of metal and nothing inside the hood to pull all that, with a flashy silver label saying 4x4,... then out of both your choices the Endeavour is a better one. Last edited by gbpscars : 5th September 2006 at 18:37.
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5th September 2006, 18:40	#19
Steeroid Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: N.A Posts: 7,046 Thanked: 2,751 Times	POST DELETED I think Suman knows what he wants. Last edited by Steeroid : 5th September 2006 at 18:47.
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5th September 2006, 18:53	#20
gbpscars BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 402 Thanked: 5 Times	* Thanks for the delete* Steeriod, me too delete this one, I only posted my opinion in a public opinion poll. Sorry to the those who own these vehicles already. Last edited by gbpscars : 5th September 2006 at 19:01.
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5th September 2006, 20:23	#21
finneyp Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,716 Thanked: 319 Times View My Garage	My money would go for Endeavor, Ford cars are more reliable than Tata cars!
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5th September 2006, 20:27	#22
harsh87 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 169 Thanked: 3 Times View My Garage	i've been through the same dilemma in the past few days test drove a lot of cars i.e tucson, crv, safari, scorpio and safari the best of the lot is crv but our primary requirement being a seven seater tucson, crv is ruled out well i dont have much trust on scorpio so the choice was b/w safari , endeavour and innova i didnt like the ride on safari and endeavour plus the rear seat is rubbish endeavour has a ladder chasis which is wayyyyy obselete safari's dicor engine is not much a difference than its predecessor i already have an innova in my dad's company so have driven it a few times and the car is simply amazing perfect in every way except the exterior looks check out its interior, the refined engine the gears are short but it is pleasent to drive in traffic you dont get the feeling youre driving a big car so finally we've decided for an innova and ill get a body kit and alloys put on to compensate for its bland looks
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5th September 2006, 20:29	#23
M516 BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 56 Thanked: 0 Times	undoubtedly the Endeavour. No comparison between the Dicor and the Endeavour Cheers M516
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5th September 2006, 20:54	#24
danlalan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: mumbai,JUHU Posts: 1,636 Thanked: 263 Times View My Garage	both are bad....but then the tata ....would be a winner in this..since its much cheaper than fords biggie.....and its tata...so spares should be a lot cheaper than the fords.
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7th September 2006, 17:42	#26
Dragonov BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 205 Thanked: 31 Times	Go for the Dicor Suman... Nothing comes close to the plush ride it offers on our roads and spaciousness. I get a mileage of 11 in the city and 14 on the highways. I commute daily for about 80kms through the NCR traffic and yes it does make a difference to your fuel bill when you switch to diesel power as I too did so from my Ikon apart from tackling the mad delhi traffic ( moreover the Cabbies )...
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8th September 2006, 01:38	#30
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	Go for the Dicor, boss. I've fallen in love with it. I'm thinking of various ways to sway my family away from the Verna to this behemoth. And you can lord it over Endys, Tucsons, Prados, and all those shorter forms of life. Once the 2.2 comes out, and if Tata can improve quality by another 15-20%, I see no reason why anyone would buy any other SUV. The car is terrific VFM even right now.
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