Used Pajero Vs New Safari

1100D · 24th March 2008, 22:03

Some exploits of the "softroader". Ofcourse the roads are soft in these cases.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-of...-vehicles.html

YouTube - Tatateam en una tralera

YouTube - Tatateam trial 1

YouTube - Tatateam trial 2

Although these were posted a gazillion times on the forum, repeating this for fast reference.

Jaggu · 24th March 2008, 22:10

hmmm what price will you get 2nd hand Pajero? and how old is it?

SumitB · 24th March 2008, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAVAN KADAM

Sumit i am not agains Safari,

Pls visit my garage you'll find one there which i own.

for me anyday its the Safari 3L Dicor.

I am not against the Pajero as well.

VFM-Safari Rules

When did I say that you're against the Safari?

ram_hyundai · 24th March 2008, 22:41

Go for the 2.2 safariVX 4x4 as JK said.Plonk in as many goodies as you feel and feel happy about it.Pajero is a terrific vehicle but safari would be easy on the pocket.
ram

jkdas · 24th March 2008, 23:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunishsamuel

Me getting a pajero and safari 2.2 weekend for testing. Pajero is an used one but well kept and 2.2 from the showroom. Will keep posted on the drive feel and final decision. Hopefully i will be able to get my new room mate soon. Decided to sell off my existing 1.9TD who provided good service for sometime though the side effect was the rattling

This report should be an interesting comparison.

Bit OT, hows your 1.9TD. Can we have a small write up about it?

sunishsamuel · 25th March 2008, 07:44

Regarding my safari experience.

Its a decent vehicle. Feels safe and huge legroom so can sit comfortable and drive continuously. The main drawback is the sluggishness but once it reaches fifth gear and above 80kmph it moves till 120 without effort. After 120-140 (speedo readin so assuming correction this would be max 130) you need to push it hard. Hard braking causes the car to skid a bit to one side, only if the car was at speeds above 100kmph. This is common in the older versions. Constant gear shifts are a pain. So kind of second - third gear use in city traffic.

I have not had any major problems with the car except tire puncture and I ensure my vehicles are kept in good condition. Small parts like seat recliner knob, door pads etc are not available so need to manage with them. Other spares are cheap so pocket friendly.

The AC is decent not great but good to keep you cool in summer heat. It takes slightly longer to cool the car though. The central AC Is good and keeps the middle and back row comfortable. Quality of plastic is pathetic but then that's the problem with most tata cars. Overall a decent car, have taken it to many places in south india and have travelled extensively through rain and mud. Never stopped

Whatever said and done, the car is a decent SUV. I call him appu and don't think there is no day without him. If i can squeeze more power out of my car then i would not have thought of selling it. But then there is no Pete's box available, no bigger turbochargers or mods avaliable to squeeze more power out of it.

Best,
Sunish

suman · 25th March 2008, 08:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by rippergeo

suman- this post gives me flashbacks and post traumatic stress disorder.

OT: Heh-heh Doc, you're not gonna believe this but I did get a feeling of deja vu & was going to post the linky to "that" thread

- I did have a small chuckle about it, though!

dadu · 25th March 2008, 12:03

Some more

YouTube - Mamma mia che fuoristrada Tata Safari Fangaia 1

YouTube - Mamma mia che fuoristrada Tata Safari Fangaia 2

YouTube - Mamma mia che fuoristrada Tata Safari Fangaia 3

YouTube - TATA SAFARI 1 G (XTREAM)

(my favorite, fully loaded TCIC with luggage on roof)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1100D

Some exploits of the "softroader". Ofcourse the roads are soft in these cases.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-of...-vehicles.html

YouTube - Tatateam en una tralera
YouTube - Tatateam trial 1
YouTube - Tatateam trial 2

Although these were posted a gazillion times on the forum, repeating this for fast reference.

Although OT: A stunt with safari

YouTube - stunt wid safari

simply_sunny001 · 25th March 2008, 12:15

Pajero is totally overpriced considering the 20 Lac pricetag.Comparing it with Safari Dicor is totally out of question considering the VFM safari offers.

it we compare VX 4x4 with Pajero,i would anyday pick Safari and save 10Lacs.

People say Pajero is reliable and i'm sure it doesnt mean that Safari is not reliable.

and nobody likes that 2 paint job on Pajero.

Pajero is a nice vehicle if and only if its priced in territory of 12Lacs otherwise its total wastage of money.

joshdrive · 25th March 2008, 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by simply_sunny001

Pajero is a nice vehicle if and only if its priced in territory of 12Lacs otherwise its total wastage of money.

Considering that Safari , Scorpio etc are priced around 10 Lakhs, Pajero can be priced 4-5 lakhs above them considering the refinement, fit & finish,build quality, handling etc,. Stuffs like parking sensors, LCD displays etc,. are minor things for a SUV. Its annoying when you keep hearing rattling noises.

spadival · 25th March 2008, 12:44

Sunish, Have you test driven the Pajero yet? How about a used Toyota LC Prado?

IMHO, The Indian (i.e Hindustan Motors) Pajero looks old even if it is brand new.

simply_sunny001 · 25th March 2008, 12:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshdrive

Considering that Safari , Scorpio etc are priced around 10 Lakhs, Pajero can be priced 4-5 lakhs above them considering the refinement, fit & finish,build quality, handling etc,. Stuffs like parking sensors, LCD displays etc,. are minor things for a SUV. Its annoying when you keep hearing rattling noises.

Please dont bring Scorpio in this as it doesnt belong here as you are talking about handling here.

What handling you are talking about ? Whats there in Pajero to make you believe that its handling is better than Safari VX ?

4-5 lakhs for Refinement,fit-finish,build quality,handling,parking sensors etc etc.

and my friend its easy to say 4-5 lakhs for plastics and sensors,nobody pays that much for these small things, Will you pay ?

GTO · 25th March 2008, 13:00

Quote:

What handling you are talking about ? Whats there in Pajero to make you believe that its handling is better than Safari VX ?

Having driven either, I can tell you that the Pajeros road manners are far better than the Safaris. However, when it comes to ride quality, the Safari scores.

joshdrive · 25th March 2008, 13:00

The reason to bring in Scorpio is the 10 Lakh price range. And I think build quality, fit and finish etc matters a lot for a car. Pajero is much better than Safari in these area. And these aspects plays a major part in cost of a vehicle compared to stuffs like parking sensors, LCD display etc,.

sandeepmdas · 25th March 2008, 14:15

Been following this thread since it is created and thought it has no rationale at all, as there is a disparity of almost 11 LAKHS. However, that stands corrected since sunishsamuel is considering used Pajeros also.

By reading your posts it is very evident that you are longing for the Pajero driver seat....

Honestly if I have 20L to dispense, I would still go for the Safari and invest the remaining in a portfolio. The Pajero is simply not worth of 20L.

After 5 years I will sell my Safari, my portfolio and post a new thread in the "what car?" section....

24th March 2008, 22:10	#32
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	hmmm what price will you get 2nd hand Pajero? and how old is it?
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24th March 2008, 22:41	#34
ram_hyundai Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calicut ,trisur Posts: 2,020 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	Go for the 2.2 safariVX 4x4 as JK said.Plonk in as many goodies as you feel and feel happy about it.Pajero is a terrific vehicle but safari would be easy on the pocket. ram
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25th March 2008, 07:44	#36
sunishsamuel BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: TVM, BLR, HYD Posts: 656 Thanked: 1,112 Times	Regarding my safari experience. Its a decent vehicle. Feels safe and huge legroom so can sit comfortable and drive continuously. The main drawback is the sluggishness but once it reaches fifth gear and above 80kmph it moves till 120 without effort. After 120-140 (speedo readin so assuming correction this would be max 130) you need to push it hard. Hard braking causes the car to skid a bit to one side, only if the car was at speeds above 100kmph. This is common in the older versions. Constant gear shifts are a pain. So kind of second - third gear use in city traffic. I have not had any major problems with the car except tire puncture and I ensure my vehicles are kept in good condition. Small parts like seat recliner knob, door pads etc are not available so need to manage with them. Other spares are cheap so pocket friendly. The AC is decent not great but good to keep you cool in summer heat. It takes slightly longer to cool the car though. The central AC Is good and keeps the middle and back row comfortable. Quality of plastic is pathetic but then that's the problem with most tata cars. Overall a decent car, have taken it to many places in south india and have travelled extensively through rain and mud. Never stopped Whatever said and done, the car is a decent SUV. I call him appu and don't think there is no day without him. If i can squeeze more power out of my car then i would not have thought of selling it. But then there is no Pete's box available, no bigger turbochargers or mods avaliable to squeeze more power out of it. Best, Sunish
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25th March 2008, 12:15	#39
simply_sunny001 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: London & Rohtak Posts: 1,340 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	Pajero is totally overpriced considering the 20 Lac pricetag.Comparing it with Safari Dicor is totally out of question considering the VFM safari offers. it we compare VX 4x4 with Pajero,i would anyday pick Safari and save 10Lacs. People say Pajero is reliable and i'm sure it doesnt mean that Safari is not reliable. and nobody likes that 2 paint job on Pajero. Pajero is a nice vehicle if and only if its priced in territory of 12Lacs otherwise its total wastage of money.
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25th March 2008, 12:44	#41
spadival Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	Sunish, Have you test driven the Pajero yet? How about a used Toyota LC Prado? IMHO, The Indian (i.e Hindustan Motors) Pajero looks old even if it is brand new.
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25th March 2008, 13:00	#44
joshdrive BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 205 Thanked: 0 Times	The reason to bring in Scorpio is the 10 Lakh price range. And I think build quality, fit and finish etc matters a lot for a car. Pajero is much better than Safari in these area. And these aspects plays a major part in cost of a vehicle compared to stuffs like parking sensors, LCD display etc,.
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25th March 2008, 14:15	#45
sandeepmdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Varkala Posts: 1,538 Thanked: 2,491 Times	Been following this thread since it is created and thought it has no rationale at all, as there is a disparity of almost 11 LAKHS. However, that stands corrected since sunishsamuel is considering used Pajeros also. By reading your posts it is very evident that you are longing for the Pajero driver seat.... Honestly if I have 20L to dispense, I would still go for the Safari and invest the remaining in a portfolio. The Pajero is simply not worth of 20L. After 5 years I will sell my Safari, my portfolio and post a new thread in the "what car?" section.... Last edited by sandeepmdas : 25th March 2008 at 14:21.
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