Is Bolero A Good Buy?

Spinnerr · 28th May 2008, 09:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sankar

...Bolero's blower system doesn't have vents which are directed towards the windshield like in other cars.

...i don't know how effective it is going to be by just turning on the AC.

True, there are no vents which point towards the windshield, but I thought you need that arrangement if you are using a blower with the 'hot air' setting. But thats not the case with Bolero, there is no heater in Bolero.

As far as i have seen, if you are using the AC you dont have to have the vents pointing to the windshield.

Sankar · 28th May 2008, 09:41

Cool. I didn't know that it is hot air which is supposed to be blown towards the windshield. Heck i always used to blow cold air and it seemed to work. Next time i'll try it with hot air.

Spitfire · 28th May 2008, 10:23

Yep, like Spinerr said. To add to it, close the air vents at the edge of the dashboard and align the central vents to hit the roof. Turn the blower to max and AC to max and see the windsheild clear in a couple of seconds. The AC is quite powerful and if it is raining inside it will cool even more faster.

Yeah the vents directing air flow to the windscreen are missed, but hey in my 4 years of owning the Bolero i never had a problem.

maddy42 · 28th May 2008, 11:24

Well guys one more stuff. Be careful of the stepney cover which has bolero written on it. This is usually stolen. Well atleast i had mine stolen. Still lookin out for a lock so that the stepney tire can be protected.

Spitfire · 28th May 2008, 11:29

@maddy42: The stepney cover? They flick that too? stupid morons. Use a good godrej lock which can pass through the hole. Wrap a piece of rubber sheet from a old cut up tyre tube over the lock. Helps in 2 ways, since the stepney vibrates a bit the lock can make an irritating sound and also damage the colour on your rims secondly no water or dust will get into the lock.

PS: You on BBC?

maddy42 · 28th May 2008, 11:41

Well even i was thinkin of that but didnt opt for it as it spoils the looks. So am looking for a lock which might be there only for the stepney and which does not look like a lock used for shops. Well if i dont get anything then this is the last option or probably a china lock.

Well BBC?? Didnt get you

Spinnerr · 28th May 2008, 11:52

You could keep your stepny tyres safe if you use a set of safety lugs (bolts that open with only a certain type of key). They dont look much different from normal nuts, and you wont have any lock hanging around.

You usually see this shipped along with alloys, but you should be able to source them (only the nuts) from JC Road (Blore).

Sankar · 28th May 2008, 12:18

Keeping the stepney cover safe is the crux of the discussion i believe. For that what Spitfire has suggested is the only way me thinks.

Here is a question for the Bolero/Jeep owners. Have you tried to increase the output of their XD3P engines?

How much of a difference does re calibrating the fuel pump make?

Spitfire · 28th May 2008, 12:51

@Spinerr: I will try those lugs for sure, anything better then a funny looking lock.

@Sankar: Try this thread http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modify...rformance.html

Is this goign OT? We can start a new thread for the Bolero.

BBC: Bangalore Bolero Club

Spinnerr · 28th May 2008, 14:18

Worth mentioning, a Bolero (DI Turbo) can churn out an awesome 21kms / liter.

Just came across this article in IndiaCar.net

There had been a mileage rally in Bangalore, some time in FEB 08. And the Bolero that won the competition clocked an average of 21.86 km/liter

. 1600 kilos, decades old tractor modified engine, a spin in Bangalore and it gives such good average. I am impressed.

Extract from the article:

Quote:

Customers who participated in both events are members of the TopGear Club, a special customer-centric initiative which aims to bring Mahindra customers together on a common platform. The club was set up in 2003 and has since grown to include 80,000 Scorpio owners and a rapidly growing base of Bolero customers as well.

The Bolero Mileage Bonanza saw 22 Bolero families participate in the rally which covered a distance of approx. 32 km through Bangalore and passed by the Airport, Marthalli Bridge, HAL and outer ring road, culminating at Orchids Dodi Resort at Yelankha, where the amount of diesel consumed was measured and mileage determined. The winning Bolero, driven by Mr. Altaf Ahmed Sharief, clocked an average of 21.86 km/litre, while Mr. Girish was at second position with 21.6 km/litre. On the whole, more than 33% of participating Boleros recorded an average above 15 km/litre.

BullBoy, where are you? Hope you are reading this...

maddy42 · 28th May 2008, 15:05

@Spitfire no i am not a member of BBC. I am currently in mumbai and no bolero here. Missing it badly. Hope to come down to blr by this year end.

21 km/l is quite a lot. I guess 13 or 14 would make me very happy though am satisfied with 10

@Sankar Well i have not done any upgrades to my engine. Both are stocks. Just let us know in case there is some scope for improved performance

Rough Square · 28th May 2008, 19:59

@Sankar

I would suggest that you do not go in for a used Bolero. People who buy Boleros use it till the last nut and only then sell it (well thats what I found when I was hunting for a used one about an year back, finally bought a new one).

And trust me, your attitude changes when you drive a Bolero - when I used to drive a small car, I used to slow down at every road hump / pot hole. Now I just maintain a steady speed and drive over them. I am sure in the long run its gonna hurt my suspensions, my wheels and a lot of other things (and thats what you get when you buy a used one).

And I am sure this is what every Bolero owner does.

Rough Square · 28th May 2008, 20:04

Another method to prevent your windshield from fogging:

Learnt this from a tempo driver (never tried it though), keep a soap wrapped in a cotton clothe and rub it over the windshield and Bingo, no more fogging.

(now dont ask me for a logical explanation behind this)

Sankar · 28th May 2008, 22:30

Let me see if a good one comes around. Maybe if i'm lucky i would get a decent machine. Anyway i'm not going to buy a run down piece.

Maddy, there is definitely scope for improved performance even for these old tech Diesels, but you would lose out on fuel economy.

29th May 2008, 07:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sankar

Let me see if a good one comes around. Maybe if i'm lucky i would get a decent machine. Anyway i'm not going to buy a run down piece.

Maddy, there is definitely scope for improved performance even for these old tech Diesels, but you would lose out on fuel economy.

hoping that you will blaze a path for me, in buying a used bolero and in performance mods.

old tech diesels are supposed to benefit a lot from propane.
HHO is a safer option, and on paper looks easier too, but what do I know,I'm more of a theory guy.

you being a technical/hands on person should be able to do it yourself.

EDIT-propane and HHO are said to increase performance and fuel economy.

28th May 2008, 09:41	#62
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,780 Thanked: 9,255 Times	Cool. I didn't know that it is hot air which is supposed to be blown towards the windshield. Heck i always used to blow cold air and it seemed to work. Next time i'll try it with hot air.
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28th May 2008, 10:23	#63
Spitfire BANNED Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Panaji - Goa/Bangalore - Karnataka Posts: 3,313 Thanked: 778 Times	Yep, like Spinerr said. To add to it, close the air vents at the edge of the dashboard and align the central vents to hit the roof. Turn the blower to max and AC to max and see the windsheild clear in a couple of seconds. The AC is quite powerful and if it is raining inside it will cool even more faster. Yeah the vents directing air flow to the windscreen are missed, but hey in my 4 years of owning the Bolero i never had a problem.
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28th May 2008, 11:24	#64
maddy42 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Coorg Posts: 2,193 Thanked: 1,674 Times View My Garage	Well guys one more stuff. Be careful of the stepney cover which has bolero written on it. This is usually stolen. Well atleast i had mine stolen. Still lookin out for a lock so that the stepney tire can be protected.
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28th May 2008, 11:29	#65
Spitfire BANNED Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Panaji - Goa/Bangalore - Karnataka Posts: 3,313 Thanked: 778 Times	@maddy42: The stepney cover? They flick that too? stupid morons. Use a good godrej lock which can pass through the hole. Wrap a piece of rubber sheet from a old cut up tyre tube over the lock. Helps in 2 ways, since the stepney vibrates a bit the lock can make an irritating sound and also damage the colour on your rims secondly no water or dust will get into the lock. PS: You on BBC?
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28th May 2008, 11:41	#66
maddy42 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Coorg Posts: 2,193 Thanked: 1,674 Times View My Garage	Well even i was thinkin of that but didnt opt for it as it spoils the looks. So am looking for a lock which might be there only for the stepney and which does not look like a lock used for shops. Well if i dont get anything then this is the last option or probably a china lock. Well BBC?? Didnt get you
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28th May 2008, 11:52	#67
Spinnerr BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 423 Thanked: 505 Times	You could keep your stepny tyres safe if you use a set of safety lugs (bolts that open with only a certain type of key). They dont look much different from normal nuts, and you wont have any lock hanging around. You usually see this shipped along with alloys, but you should be able to source them (only the nuts) from JC Road (Blore). Last edited by Spinnerr : 28th May 2008 at 11:53. Reason: Spelling
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28th May 2008, 12:18	#68
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,780 Thanked: 9,255 Times	Keeping the stepney cover safe is the crux of the discussion i believe. For that what Spitfire has suggested is the only way me thinks. Here is a question for the Bolero/Jeep owners. Have you tried to increase the output of their XD3P engines? How much of a difference does re calibrating the fuel pump make?
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28th May 2008, 12:51	#69
Spitfire BANNED Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Panaji - Goa/Bangalore - Karnataka Posts: 3,313 Thanked: 778 Times	@Spinerr: I will try those lugs for sure, anything better then a funny looking lock. @Sankar: Try this thread http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modify...rformance.html Is this goign OT? We can start a new thread for the Bolero. BBC: Bangalore Bolero Club
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28th May 2008, 15:05	#71
maddy42 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Coorg Posts: 2,193 Thanked: 1,674 Times View My Garage	@Spitfire no i am not a member of BBC. I am currently in mumbai and no bolero here. Missing it badly. Hope to come down to blr by this year end. 21 km/l is quite a lot. I guess 13 or 14 would make me very happy though am satisfied with 10 @Sankar Well i have not done any upgrades to my engine. Both are stocks. Just let us know in case there is some scope for improved performance
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28th May 2008, 19:59	#72
Rough Square BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 100 Thanked: 2 Times	@Sankar I would suggest that you do not go in for a used Bolero. People who buy Boleros use it till the last nut and only then sell it (well thats what I found when I was hunting for a used one about an year back, finally bought a new one). And trust me, your attitude changes when you drive a Bolero - when I used to drive a small car, I used to slow down at every road hump / pot hole. Now I just maintain a steady speed and drive over them. I am sure in the long run its gonna hurt my suspensions, my wheels and a lot of other things (and thats what you get when you buy a used one). And I am sure this is what every Bolero owner does.
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28th May 2008, 20:04	#73
Rough Square BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 100 Thanked: 2 Times	Another method to prevent your windshield from fogging: Learnt this from a tempo driver (never tried it though), keep a soap wrapped in a cotton clothe and rub it over the windshield and Bingo, no more fogging. (now dont ask me for a logical explanation behind this)
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28th May 2008, 22:30	#74
Sankar Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Location Posts: 5,780 Thanked: 9,255 Times	Let me see if a good one comes around. Maybe if i'm lucky i would get a decent machine. Anyway i'm not going to buy a run down piece. Maddy, there is definitely scope for improved performance even for these old tech Diesels, but you would lose out on fuel economy.
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