Used SUV purchase - Leaning towards Tucson

shankar.balan · 12th October 2009, 12:22

try buying the latest issue of What car?

indeed it appears that used Pajeros are around at about 12-13 lacs and i feel these would be a great bet.

used Tucson also would be good based on some of the earlier posts here where people have spoken well about the way some of them have stood up to 5 years of use.

but Forester in my opinion would not be such a great idea because of the fact that it is out of production, spares are unavailable and expensive, it is a petrol driven car and therefore would work out quite expensive to run and maintain plus the fact that Chevy India's after sales service is not all that renowned for high standards of service delivery.

suggest you pick up the What Car? mag and go over some of the data available in it. Since the Tucson shares its platform and engine and many other parts with the Elantra you could read what they've written about buying an used Elantra as well - this will serve as a good indicator for you, before you take the plunge.

Ricky_63 · 13th October 2009, 10:57

Forrester is totally out of the question. A friend recently actually almost donated his car as it was frightfully expensive to retain & run.

Pajero makes sense in the 12-14L bracket, many are available.

Tucson is available at near 17L from the Showroom (on road). There are used ones in the range of 7-9L depending on mileage & general condition.

I have found out from Hyundai about part prices etc. To my surprise, it is fairly affordable to completely refurbish including fresh paint etc. So - thus far, this is the situation. Looking at a decision soon.

Cheers

Guna · 13th October 2009, 11:05

Terracan is based on Pajaro (if I understand correctly) but it still looks lot more contemporary compared to the Pajaro sold here. I was going through some international reviews and they had rated it very high, especially he engine and offroadability part. Since it is also a seven seater, it may be worth taking a look.

ACM · 14th October 2009, 17:38

So we are deviating from the Tucson, Frankly the advent of Fortuner at 18.5 L has brought down the true value of used Endy (even the new one for that matter), the Pajero, Captiva, tucson, Terracam etc.

To me it does not seem to make sense to plonk Rs, 12-14 L in a used Pajero with a new fortuner comming in for just 5-6l more.

Tucsons around 7 L seem about right, as do the Terracams, even the absurdly low priced forrester (for lack of parts) seems sensible. How much do you loose even if you throw away the car in 2 years buy for 3L and throw away for 40K - Loss 2.6L, instead buy a pajero or endy for 10-12 L and in two year find it at 7L - that is a worse deal and a loss of 5L.

.anshuman · 14th October 2009, 19:02

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Originally Posted by ACM

So we are deviating from the Tucson, Frankly the advent of Fortuner at 18.5 L has brought down the true value of used Endy (even the new one for that matter), the Pajero, Captiva, tucson, Terracam etc.

To me it does not seem to make sense to plonk Rs, 12-14 L in a used Pajero with a new fortuner comming in for just 5-6l more.

Tucsons around 7 L seem about right, as do the Terracams, even the absurdly low priced forrester (for lack of parts) seems sensible. How much do you loose even if you throw away the car in 2 years buy for 3L and throw away for 40K - Loss 2.6L, instead buy a pajero or endy for 10-12 L and in two year find it at 7L - that is a worse deal and a loss of 5L.

Tucson and Pajero are entirely different cars. While Pajero can never match Tucson's performance, refinement and on road manners with Tucson you can never expect Pajero's offroad ability and capacity to take abuse.

At the price they are available i would suggest you to go in for Tucson.

Ricky_63 · 14th October 2009, 20:51

For one I never really liked the Terracan. Parts for it are a major problem even today (Hyundai Dealer's words). The Tucson may lack the snob value for which I really never cared, but it does the job VERY well.

Right now I am swinging between the used option & the brand new one. I think I may loose money on the new one in loads if I sell in about 4-5 years, but the pleasure & reliability of a new car (kind of) makes up for it.

Head says used - heart says new !

Thanks all you guys for the advice.

Cheers

.anshuman · 14th October 2009, 22:46

Rather than buying a new Tucson you can try out Chevy Captiva manual, you may miss the AWD but will serve your purpose well. Plus it will depreciate less than a Tucson.

Ricky_63 · 15th October 2009, 09:55

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Originally Posted by .anshuman

Rather than buying a new Tucson you can try out Chevy Captiva manual, you may miss the AWD but will serve your purpose well. Plus it will depreciate less than a Tucson.

I did a TD of the Captiva LT. Inside the car is great, everything feels nice, but the turbo lag is serious. I had to get the car out of a basement parking on a ramp where my Octy crawls even without accelerator, the Captiva was well (to put it mildly) miserable. Nothing happened till I revved it upto 2000 RPM & then she crawled out.

That did not give me a very nice feeling. Tucson on the other hand, has no such issues. Or maybe it is just me.

Cheers

sudev · 15th October 2009, 10:37

Again my Rs0.02 worth - VFM proposition is way off. It is really not meant for (soft)off road as it has very limited (though capable) AWD potential. And it does not sell so resale is a value loss trap. IMHO a bit dated looks.
That said however home is where heart is.

R_R · 15th October 2009, 22:43

Buying a used 4x4, would'nt one have to worry about messed-up transmission, with the previous owner (or more likely, some driver chappie who does'nt know any better) misusing the 4x4? How does one check for such kind of damage? Any 4x4 gurus here have advice for novices like me?

Ricky_63 · 19th October 2009, 10:40

Take the SUV in question to the A.S.Center & have it checked, infact I'd take a written estimate of the work that needs to be done - that way you have a fairly precise idea of the money needed to get the vehicle back into top form.

Cheers

ACM · 20th October 2009, 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricky_63

Take the SUV in question to the A.S.Center & have it checked, infact I'd take a written estimate of the work that needs to be done - that way you have a fairly precise idea of the money needed to get the vehicle back into top form.

Cheers

Works on paper but somehow not in reality, infact once I even paid for the total service of the car myself and spoke to the service centre guy about the possible expenses, in the near future and the vehicle was in warranty, and yet there were issues both within warranty and soon out of warranty.

That said, I would again do the same next time when I pick up a used car.

smooth · 20th October 2009, 19:37

A bit OT. But I like to know whether Tucson is 5 seater or 7 seater.

I think it is a 5 seater and can be converted to 7 although not recommended.

Why I am having a confusion. As carwale is mentioning it as a 7 seater.
Hyundai Tucson CRDi Details - CarWale.com

Somebody Please confirm.

Thanks

.anshuman · 20th October 2009, 21:12

Tucson is a 5 seater, converting it to 7 seater is not a practical option, although you can place a seat in the boot but high floor will ensure that it wont be comfortable.

Ricky_63 · 21st October 2009, 09:58

Tucson is sold as a five seater. The boot as it is, is small. At best you can put an improvised bench on one or both sides. Will leave no space for anything else. Not a good idea.

12th October 2009, 12:22	#46
shankar.balan BANNED Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 11,368 Thanked: 23,158 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/2 (8)	try buying the latest issue of What car? indeed it appears that used Pajeros are around at about 12-13 lacs and i feel these would be a great bet. used Tucson also would be good based on some of the earlier posts here where people have spoken well about the way some of them have stood up to 5 years of use. but Forester in my opinion would not be such a great idea because of the fact that it is out of production, spares are unavailable and expensive, it is a petrol driven car and therefore would work out quite expensive to run and maintain plus the fact that Chevy India's after sales service is not all that renowned for high standards of service delivery. suggest you pick up the What Car? mag and go over some of the data available in it. Since the Tucson shares its platform and engine and many other parts with the Elantra you could read what they've written about buying an used Elantra as well - this will serve as a good indicator for you, before you take the plunge. Last edited by shankar.balan : 12th October 2009 at 12:23.
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13th October 2009, 10:57	#47
Ricky_63 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,885 Thanked: 518 Times View My Garage	Forrester is totally out of the question. A friend recently actually almost donated his car as it was frightfully expensive to retain & run. Pajero makes sense in the 12-14L bracket, many are available. Tucson is available at near 17L from the Showroom (on road). There are used ones in the range of 7-9L depending on mileage & general condition. I have found out from Hyundai about part prices etc. To my surprise, it is fairly affordable to completely refurbish including fresh paint etc. So - thus far, this is the situation. Looking at a decision soon. Cheers
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13th October 2009, 11:05	#48
Guna Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,012 Thanked: 4,204 Times	why not Terracan Terracan is based on Pajaro (if I understand correctly) but it still looks lot more contemporary compared to the Pajaro sold here. I was going through some international reviews and they had rated it very high, especially he engine and offroadability part. Since it is also a seven seater, it may be worth taking a look.
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14th October 2009, 17:38	#49
ACM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,745 Thanked: 4,361 Times View My Garage	So we are deviating from the Tucson, Frankly the advent of Fortuner at 18.5 L has brought down the true value of used Endy (even the new one for that matter), the Pajero, Captiva, tucson, Terracam etc. To me it does not seem to make sense to plonk Rs, 12-14 L in a used Pajero with a new fortuner comming in for just 5-6l more. Tucsons around 7 L seem about right, as do the Terracams, even the absurdly low priced forrester (for lack of parts) seems sensible. How much do you loose even if you throw away the car in 2 years buy for 3L and throw away for 40K - Loss 2.6L, instead buy a pajero or endy for 10-12 L and in two year find it at 7L - that is a worse deal and a loss of 5L.
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14th October 2009, 20:51	#51
Ricky_63 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,885 Thanked: 518 Times View My Garage	For one I never really liked the Terracan. Parts for it are a major problem even today (Hyundai Dealer's words). The Tucson may lack the snob value for which I really never cared, but it does the job VERY well. Right now I am swinging between the used option & the brand new one. I think I may loose money on the new one in loads if I sell in about 4-5 years, but the pleasure & reliability of a new car (kind of) makes up for it. Head says used - heart says new ! Thanks all you guys for the advice. Cheers
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14th October 2009, 22:46	#52
.anshuman Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Good-Gaon Posts: 7,763 Thanked: 11,064 Times View My Garage	Rather than buying a new Tucson you can try out Chevy Captiva manual, you may miss the AWD but will serve your purpose well. Plus it will depreciate less than a Tucson.
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15th October 2009, 10:37	#54
sudev Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,838 Thanked: 3,179 Times	Again my Rs0.02 worth - VFM proposition is way off. It is really not meant for (soft)off road as it has very limited (though capable) AWD potential. And it does not sell so resale is a value loss trap. IMHO a bit dated looks. That said however home is where heart is.
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15th October 2009, 22:43	#55
R_R BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NCR Posts: 318 Thanked: 291 Times	Buying a used 4x4, would'nt one have to worry about messed-up transmission, with the previous owner (or more likely, some driver chappie who does'nt know any better) misusing the 4x4? How does one check for such kind of damage? Any 4x4 gurus here have advice for novices like me?
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19th October 2009, 10:40	#56
Ricky_63 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,885 Thanked: 518 Times View My Garage	Take the SUV in question to the A.S.Center & have it checked, infact I'd take a written estimate of the work that needs to be done - that way you have a fairly precise idea of the money needed to get the vehicle back into top form. Cheers
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20th October 2009, 19:37	#58
smooth BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New Delhi Posts: 142 Thanked: 16 Times	Tucson 5 seater or 7 seater A bit OT. But I like to know whether Tucson is 5 seater or 7 seater. I think it is a 5 seater and can be converted to 7 although not recommended. Why I am having a confusion. As carwale is mentioning it as a 7 seater. Hyundai Tucson CRDi Details - CarWale.com Somebody Please confirm. Thanks
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20th October 2009, 21:12	#59
.anshuman Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Good-Gaon Posts: 7,763 Thanked: 11,064 Times View My Garage	Tucson is a 5 seater, converting it to 7 seater is not a practical option, although you can place a seat in the boot but high floor will ensure that it wont be comfortable.
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21st October 2009, 09:58	#60
Ricky_63 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,885 Thanked: 518 Times View My Garage	Tucson is sold as a five seater. The boot as it is, is small. At best you can put an improvised bench on one or both sides. Will leave no space for anything else. Not a good idea.
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