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Old 31st May 2021, 12:10   #151
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Default Re: Serious gearbox issue in my Kia Seltos DCT

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I admit to the bizarreness of the idea, but is a 5 star rated car definitely going to save one in all circumstances. I should think not. So you want to play the fortune wheel and take a chance with a higher probability safety number. That’s fair if there weren’t other factors at play in a buyer’s decision making proces.
Can we examine the circumstances under which the extra 2 stars of safety ratings would come to our aid. Would the presence of 6 airbags even out that difference. I am not saying it would, just throwing that question open for all those in the know to answer
No car can save you in “all circumstances”. However, all things being equal, you are safer in a 5 star rated car vs. a 3 star rated one. What this means is that in a crash at say 60kmph you could receive moderate injuries in a 3 star vehicle whereas you would likely not be injured in a 5 star rated one. If the speed is increased to say 80, you would then receive moderate injuries in the 5 star rated vehicle and serious ones in the 3 star vehicle. If you crash at say 100kmph or against a really heavy vehicle like a truck then neither car is likely to save you. All you are doing is improving your chances. I already said it. Seltos is a great car. If you want to buy it, go for it. Just don’t argue that the 3 star rating is as good as a 5 star one. Having 6 airbags vs. 2 is definitely better and you are right, it can help balance the safety level vs. a 5 star rated vehicle to some extent. Even I love the Seltos. If I were not determined to get an EV, it would be near the top of my choices but I would hesitate due to the 3 star rating.

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Old 31st May 2021, 14:36   #152
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Default Re: Serious gearbox issue in my Kia Seltos DCT

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Just donít argue that the 3 star rating is as good as a 5 star one. Having 6 airbags vs. 2 is definitely better and you are right, it can help balance the safety level vs. a 5 star rated vehicle to some extent. Even I love the Seltos. If I were not determined to get an EV, it would be near the top of my choices but I would hesitate due to the 3 star rating.
Without wanting to sound offensive I want to say that youíre stating the obvious. Of course 5 is better than 3 and 3 is better than none. Thereís no argument about something as basic as that. For some, safety is the only cred and for others itís just one amongst a host of others. I would believe that the second lot far outnumbers the first even after adequate due diligence. Personally the XUV300 would have been my top pick but it fails for having an AMT tranny, Iíd pick that car in a trice but for that very important detail. The Nexon and Tata on the whole are too boring for me, Iíve owned an Indica for 6 years in the past. No enthusiasm to do Tata ever again. Plus for me personally the Nexon is a very ugly design, to me it has the elegance of a Warthog. If the EV range issue wasnít a thing then and only then Iíd consider the Nexon but thatís a huge elephant in the room. So where does that leave me, for all practical purposes with having to alter my driving traits to make the 3 stars work for me and to rest on destinyís benevolence
Coming back to the original argument that is why I find the emphasis on NCAP ratings overstated. The Korean twins are routine trashed for their safety rating but their entire offerings package is just dismissed for that one factor. Their offerings are substantial compared to their competitors. In final analysis a car in these segments is stretch to the lowest price point of the luxury segments. One isnít buying an utility truck but a value proposition. One has to be a bit more rational about the ratings issue is all that my submission is about.
Thanks a lot for your debate, Iíve enjoyed it would love to hear more if you feel like it
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