[Lobogris]

Originally Posted by armumbai

I admit to the bizarreness of the idea, but is a 5 star rated car definitely going to save one in all circumstances. I should think not. So you want to play the fortune wheel and take a chance with a higher probability safety number. That’s fair if there weren’t other factors at play in a buyer’s decision making proces.
Can we examine the circumstances under which the extra 2 stars of safety ratings would come to our aid. Would the presence of 6 airbags even out that difference. I am not saying it would, just throwing that question open for all those in the know to answer

No car can save you in “all circumstances”. However, all things being equal, you are safer in a 5 star rated car vs. a 3 star rated one. What this means is that in a crash at say 60kmph you could receive moderate injuries in a 3 star vehicle whereas you would likely not be injured in a 5 star rated one. If the speed is increased to say 80, you would then receive moderate injuries in the 5 star rated vehicle and serious ones in the 3 star vehicle. If you crash at say 100kmph or against a really heavy vehicle like a truck then neither car is likely to save you. All you are doing is improving your chances. I already said it. Seltos is a great car. If you want to buy it, go for it. Just don’t argue that the 3 star rating is as good as a 5 star one. Having 6 airbags vs. 2 is definitely better and you are right, it can help balance the safety level vs. a 5 star rated vehicle to some extent. Even I love the Seltos. If I were not determined to get an EV, it would be near the top of my choices but I would hesitate due to the 3 star rating.

[armumbai]

Originally Posted by Lobogris

Just don’t argue that the 3 star rating is as good as a 5 star one. Having 6 airbags vs. 2 is definitely better and you are right, it can help balance the safety level vs. a 5 star rated vehicle to some extent. Even I love the Seltos. If I were not determined to get an EV, it would be near the top of my choices but I would hesitate due to the 3 star rating.

Without wanting to sound offensive I want to say that you’re stating the obvious. Of course 5 is better than 3 and 3 is better than none. There’s no argument about something as basic as that. For some, safety is the only cred and for others it’s just one amongst a host of others. I would believe that the second lot far outnumbers the first even after adequate due diligence. Personally the XUV300 would have been my top pick but it fails for having an AMT tranny, I’d pick that car in a trice but for that very important detail. The Nexon and Tata on the whole are too boring for me, I’ve owned an Indica for 6 years in the past. No enthusiasm to do Tata ever again. Plus for me personally the Nexon is a very ugly design, to me it has the elegance of a Warthog. If the EV range issue wasn’t a thing then and only then I’d consider the Nexon but that’s a huge elephant in the room. So where does that leave me, for all practical purposes with having to alter my driving traits to make the 3 stars work for me and to rest on destiny’s benevolence
Coming back to the original argument that is why I find the emphasis on NCAP ratings overstated. The Korean twins are routine trashed for their safety rating but their entire offerings package is just dismissed for that one factor. Their offerings are substantial compared to their competitors. In final analysis a car in these segments is stretch to the lowest price point of the luxury segments. One isn’t buying an utility truck but a value proposition. One has to be a bit more rational about the ratings issue is all that my submission is about.
Thanks a lot for your debate, I’ve enjoyed it would love to hear more if you feel like it

[Meph1st0]

Since this thread is idle, is it fair to assume that the issues are not seen in the newer vehicles and issues are resolved in the initial batches by replacing the gear actuator? I also do not see this issue reported for the Sonet.

[ptaneja]

Bumping up this thread too.
About to book Carens DCT, need to check if the issue still exists?

And since I'll be driving in heavy traffic + north India heat , is it OK to go for DCT or manual ?

[landcruiser123]

Originally Posted by ptaneja

About to book Carens DCT, need to check if the issue still exists?

And since I'll be driving in heavy traffic + north India heat , is it OK to go for DCT or manual ?

I'd never trust a DCT in India. Buy a reliable diesel + TC and save yourself a lot of headache (potential repairs + ease of driving.)

[VinsWagen]

The DCT woes and reliability concerns are the only reason why I am forced to consider Alcazar Petrol AT instead of the otherwise much superior package that Carens Petrol AT offers, that too for a few lakhs less.

[sany0023]

Hi Guys,

My altroz dca has got some paint issue. Gave it to service center 2 times and finally they made it clean. Now the car is jerking like an amt and also the autopark lock feature introduced with DCA is not working. Tried for 30 minutes yesterday, and the car kept moving and fortunately I was able to jump in just in time.

My question is, having lost faith in TAMO quality, is it possible that my gearbox is replaced with a cheap gearbox like AMT from other Tata cars. I know this might sound silly, but being newbie to the car world, I want to know if this is possible.

[amalvip2811]

Fast forward in 2024, do we still see issues with DCT transmission?
Actually I am inclined to buy Kia Carens DCT.

[Ram.tvm]

Originally Posted by sandygordon

UPDATE
3000 km post gear actuator replacement for my car
No issues yet. Gear shifts are seamless. No skipping of gears even in scenarios where I had issues. Hope this is limited to just one car.
Hope this is settled for ever. Fingers crossed.

I have faced this issue last week. I am from Trivandrum. In fact , three weeks back i had serious issues with the vehicle having vibrations and Automotive Kia folks ran diagnostics and identified a faulty spark plug. Replaced it and i thought that was the end of it.

But last Friday I faced the issue where gears 1,3,5,7 alone worked. I had read this thread earlier and could easily identify the issue. The issue with my vehicle is the actuator assembly as well.

I want to take it up with someone higher up in the organisation at Kia . Would you by any chance happen to have a contact ? Please DM me. I think you have already gone through this dreadful experience and can feel my pain.

[10nitin]

Hey Guys,
My mama faced an issue with his 2019 Seltos DCT recently. His driver was driving the car and he complained that the gears were not getting engaged properly and the clutch was slipping. They decided to take the car to the nearest Kia service center in Gurgaon and as soon as they reached, the car came to a complete halt! The gears stopped getting engaged and the car was revving freely on putting it in D. However, the reverse gear is still working so in his case 1,3,5 & 7 are not working. He has been given an estimate of almost 1 Lakh for fixing the issue (for changing the clutch plate & pressure plate set and the clutch bearing). The car has just done about 60k km and has never been mistreated and been driven sedately. We were quite surprised when we came to know the issue.
What do you think should be done? Looking for valuable inputs from you all who have faced similar issues.

[carnutfrombanga]

Facing a juddering issue on my 2023 Carens DCT, when starting from standstill, there are judders and rough gear shifts until the 3rd gear.

[audioholic]

Originally Posted by carnutfrombanga

Facing a juddering issue on my 2023 Carens DCT, when starting from standstill, there are judders and rough gear shifts until the 3rd gear.

Welcome to the world of clutch discs with a runout. Had it severely on my Celerio, very slightly can feel it on the odd clutch of my DSG Slavia but is only after hard driving. If this is noticeable or annoying, then you would need a new clutch pack.

[bbn7blr]

Hi fellow BHPians,

Just wanted to share that I experience the transmission failure issue with my 2021 Seltos with 30k-km. I am on a visit to Coimbatore and some 4 days ago, starting the car after tanking petrol saw the "Transmission Control System malfunction" message. The car was able to move but the gears got stuck at 1 and after some distance switched to 3 and was back to 1 when the car slowed down. The Reverse gear was not engaging. Called Prassana Kia service centre and they picked up the car after 2 days. After one more day of troubleshooting the SA told me yesterday the actuator is faulty. No spare available with them as well as in the close by Kia service centers, saying it will take 7 working days to get the part from KIA. The car is under extended warranty, last year running, so a bit lucky here. But the service experience and long lead times for the part and the fact that such fault can happen all of a sudden is causing quite lot of anxiety. Wanted to know if anyone else has faced similar issue recently (saw the ones from sandygordon & 10nitin). No response from Kia customer care for my email to them - any tips for speeding up the repair?