Race Dynamics : The tech review

nitroxx · 12th April 2008, 01:04

I agree with the closed loop feature, however we can have a map that runs closed loop to a certain point and then goes into open loop mode right?.. my other question relates to the fact that..the performance map would handle fuelling,but how would It improve efficiency (only with a map)?Or is this where part throttle tuning comes in?

PatienceWins · 12th April 2008, 01:18

Thanks for the clarification Shan2nu.

If that is the case, then custom map should give good FE with normal city usage. Are guys with custom map experiencing the same?

Seems to be a good proposition, more torque at disposal and better FE with normal usage.

Shan2nu · 12th April 2008, 02:21

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a custom map doesn't posses the ability to vary it's AFR to an extent, to which a custom map is capable of.

Read that as : a stock map doesn't posses the ability to vary it's AFR to an extent, to which a custom map is capable of.

Shan2nu

Ford Rocam · 12th April 2008, 08:47

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Originally Posted by nitroxx

I agree with the closed loop feature, however we can have a map that runs closed loop to a certain point and then goes into open loop mode right?.. my other question relates to the fact that..the performance map would handle fuelling,but how would It improve efficiency (only with a map)?Or is this where part throttle tuning comes in?

You need to tune in open loop first, get as much readings as possible on different road conditions like in traffic, while cruising & wot runs.
Take readings in hot climate in afternoon & in late night when its cold,
also if possible take the car to some high altitude & take readings and tune accordingly. This is where wideband comes in to picture.you need to have that installed in your car hooked up to a standalone to get readings.

once you are done tuning your fuel/ign map in open loop, then you should set back your ecu to run in closed loop, up to a particular load point decided best by your tuner. once it crosses that particular load point & RPM you can tune your same map for max perfomance to redline.

swathyd · 15th April 2008, 21:14

Is there any remapped ecu available for palio 1.6 from R.D ?

rdkarthik · 21st April 2008, 10:57

swathyd - Yes we have ECUs compatible with the palio 1.6.

The other guys, hang on a day or two i will upload info on how mapping can be optimized for eco and performance.

Psycho · 2nd May 2008, 19:49

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Originally Posted by rdkarthik

The other guys, hang on a day or two i will upload info on how mapping can be optimized for eco and performance.

Ding Dong time to share the info, looks like you forgot all about it.

P180V1 · 13th May 2008, 09:13

Nice review Psycho, Keep up the GOOD WORK RD & team, ALL THE BEST.

CHERS,
G D

Rehaan · 19th July 2008, 22:50

Take a look at Viper's RD-0601 reivew here : http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...-race-ecu.html

cya
R

theMAG · 19th July 2008, 22:55

Karthik,

You got anything for diesels in the pipeline - Indian ones at that ?!

vikram_d · 20th July 2008, 08:54

The diesel ECU is under testing as we speak. It should be out quite soon.

rdkarthik · 20th July 2008, 14:48

theMAg, our diesel systems have just completed all the on-road endurance testing, so you can expect them very soon. The CD0801 series of ECUs for common-rail diesels are designed to work on any crd system.
We havent decided on releasing the tuning software for this.. What do you guys think? Should we or should'nt we release the software ?

vikram_d · 20th July 2008, 21:46

I think you should release the software

binz · 20th July 2008, 21:54

Release it on request and get it in writing that RD will not be responsible for any eventualities due to unsupervised tuning .. or something to that extent.

20th July 2008, 22:57

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Originally Posted by binz

Release it on request and get it in writing that RD will not be responsible for any eventualities due to unsupervised tuning .. or something to that extent.

that is the best way to keep all camps satisfied.

With this new diesel ECU, it should be relatively safer to use the boost controller that is also being tested by others on the forum , right?

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nitroxx Awaiting Email Confirmation Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: DXB Posts: 816 Thanked: 31 Times View My Garage	I agree with the closed loop feature, however we can have a map that runs closed loop to a certain point and then goes into open loop mode right?.. my other question relates to the fact that..the performance map would handle fuelling,but how would It improve efficiency (only with a map)?Or is this where part throttle tuning comes in? Last edited by nitroxx : 12th April 2008 at 01:07.
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12th April 2008, 01:18	#92
PatienceWins Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,416 Thanked: 809 Times View My Garage	Thanks for the clarification Shan2nu. If that is the case, then custom map should give good FE with normal city usage. Are guys with custom map experiencing the same? Seems to be a good proposition, more torque at disposal and better FE with normal usage.
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15th April 2008, 21:14	#95
swathyd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: thiruvananthapuram Posts: 774 Thanked: 25 Times	Is there any remapped ecu available for palio 1.6 from R.D ?
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21st April 2008, 10:57	#96
rdkarthik BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 206 Thanked: 13 Times	swathyd - Yes we have ECUs compatible with the palio 1.6. The other guys, hang on a day or two i will upload info on how mapping can be optimized for eco and performance.
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13th May 2008, 09:13	#98
P180V1 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 143 Thanked: 4 Times	Nice review Psycho, Keep up the GOOD WORK RD & team, ALL THE BEST. CHERS, G D
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19th July 2008, 22:50	#99
Rehaan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24,046 Thanked: 34,080 Times	crosslink Take a look at Viper's RD-0601 reivew here : http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...-race-ecu.html cya R
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19th July 2008, 22:55	#100
theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,217 Thanked: 1,807 Times View My Garage	Karthik, You got anything for diesels in the pipeline - Indian ones at that ?!
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20th July 2008, 08:54	#101
vikram_d Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,427 Thanked: 1,185 Times	The diesel ECU is under testing as we speak. It should be out quite soon.
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20th July 2008, 14:48	#102
rdkarthik BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 206 Thanked: 13 Times	theMAg, our diesel systems have just completed all the on-road endurance testing, so you can expect them very soon. The CD0801 series of ECUs for common-rail diesels are designed to work on any crd system. We havent decided on releasing the tuning software for this.. What do you guys think? Should we or should'nt we release the software ?
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20th July 2008, 21:46	#103
vikram_d Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,427 Thanked: 1,185 Times	I think you should release the software
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20th July 2008, 21:54	#104
binz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,306 Thanked: 431 Times View My Garage	Release it on request and get it in writing that RD will not be responsible for any eventualities due to unsupervised tuning .. or something to that extent.
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