Airconditioning in the Gypsy

COUGAR · 29th June 2009, 21:05

I am looking to fit an AC in the gypsy next month after the rest of the work is done. What are the options other than the Sanden?

mine is a 2007 model MPFI king

KSM-Vtec · 30th June 2009, 11:16

Can someone plz put up detailed pics of the AC install(condensor location, electric fan, compressor details, plumbing)???

Gear-ge · 16th July 2009, 15:41

Hey guys !

Just the thread I was looking for. Am off to get a Wagon-R electric fan for my Gypsy King carb. Been havaing a hard time with the temp gauge shooting up to the red while idling/crawling through Delhi's rush-hour traffic. Even without the a/c.

Now I can probably get a belt to connect up the compressor, get the condensor coil (under-belly) checked, replace solenoid switch and drive around in air-conditioned comfort.

Oh, wait. That will be after I put in a new clutch assembly, change suspension/tie-rod bushes check shockers.

Well, after the next pay-check for sure.

Great discussion. Khan-saheb, let us know what aircon you put in and what-went-where ?

GTO · 19th July 2009, 15:53

Gypsy owners considering an air-con install would benefit from reading this thread as well.

wanderhermit · 10th August 2009, 02:06

If I remember correctly, Gypsy used to come with factory fitted A/c at one time.

Can anyone confirm that. And if i did, can't we replicate the exact setup at per the Maruti Suzuki stock setup.

KSM-Vtec · 10th August 2009, 10:43

it comes only with the blower not the compressor, condenser and related attachments.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanderhermit

If I remember correctly, Gypsy used to come with factory fitted A/c at one time.

Can anyone confirm that. And if i did, can't we replicate the exact setup at per the Maruti Suzuki stock setup.

Sawyer · 10th August 2009, 11:02

On a lighter note, has anyone considered installing a fan inside the cabin directed at the driver and/or passengers?! Cheaper and more vehicle friendly for sure.
Wasnt that long ago when it was considered a luxury!
Reading all the posts, for a MPFI Gypsy, what would be the single modification to make that will accomodate the additional load on the engine? Larger engine driven fan? The Wagon R electrical fan in place of the engine driven fan referred earlier? Larger radiator? Or a new fan/radiator combination?
Btw, I would go down that path only if a cabin fan proves to be totally useless.

KSM-Vtec · 10th August 2009, 11:24

To my knowledge its not only the additional load on the engine but also the condenser blocking the air flow(if it is installed in the front of the radiator, which is the case most often) to the radiator.

To combat the load on the engine a bigger 3 line copper radiator is required and to improve the air flow an additional fan right in the front should be installed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sawyer

On a lighter note, has anyone considered installing a fan inside the cabin directed at the driver and/or passengers?! Cheaper and more vehicle friendly for sure.
Wasnt that long ago when it was considered a luxury!
Reading all the posts, for a MPFI Gypsy, what would be the single modification to make that will accomodate the additional load on the engine? Larger engine driven fan? The Wagon R electrical fan in place of the engine driven fan referred earlier? Larger radiator? Or a new fan/radiator combination?
Btw, I would go down that path only if a cabin fan proves to be totally useless.

wanderhermit · 10th August 2009, 20:43

I have one question. which will be the best suited radiator if I want to install a new radiator.

Can somebody suggest a radiator of a similliar Japanese car/suv. I think they are more reliable than the rest.

I hav3e also heard that Ford make one of the best radiators. Is it true. Is it possible to put any ford radiator in Gypsy. Ikon, Fiesta or Fusion?

nikhil1300 · 11th August 2009, 12:34

Nice thread was planing to install A/C for my gypsy 1998 hard top can anyone tell me where i can buy the entire a/c unit in bangalore and which garage according to you can give me a trouble free installation.

I am not so technical
pls correct me
changing belt driven fan to electrical
changing the radiator (wagan R,118N, Contessa ambassador)
changing the fan (wagan R,118NE,Contessa,ambassador)
installing compressor(sanden 507)
installing condenser coil(super king)
installing the blower (super king)
gas(R134a)
stock thermoclutch(??????)
and related attachments.(??????)

KSM-Vtec · 11th August 2009, 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikhil1300

changing the radiator (wagan R,118N, Contessa ambassador)

Well i am not too sure if the wgn R radiator will help. But the 3 line copper radiators do help a lot.

Have posted pics/details of the AC and Copper radiator install on my Gypsy recently.http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-ve...ter-gypsy.html

nikhil1300 · 19th August 2009, 14:11

so people on this post or forum what will be the final verdict.

I am not so technical
pls correct me
changing belt driven fan to electrical
changing the radiator (wagan R,118N, Contessa ambassador)
changing the fan (wagan R,118NE,Contessa,ambassador)
installing compressor(sanden 507)
installing condenser coil(super king)
installing the blower (super king)
gas(R134a)
stock thermoclutch(??????)
and related attachments.(??????)

Jaggu · 19th August 2009, 15:40

changing belt driven fan to electrical No, belt driven fan is retained. Electrical fan is added
changing the radiator (wagan R,118N, Contessa ambassador) Basically a bigger radiator with more core
changing the fan (wagan R,118NE,Contessa,ambassador) yes
installing compressor(sanden 507) yes
installing condenser coil(super king) yes
installing the blower (super king) yes
gas(R134a) yes
stock thermoclutch(??????) You meant thermo stat?
and related attachments.(??????) tubings and pipes

Maybe you want to do some heat sealing inside the cabin to make the ac more efficient also. Find out a good A.S.S or specialist AC guy and get it done, they will take care of the job.

nikhil1300 · 24th August 2009, 08:59

thanks a lot jaggu will look in to it and get back with the details

nikhil1300 · 27th August 2009, 10:51

just wondering
Reva Cars come with an a/c is it possible to install Reva Cars a/c in our half cabin gypsy i think since Reva car is the smallest car on the indian roads may be the a/c unit is compact and powerful
Does any one have any idea on this

29th June 2009, 21:05	#46
COUGAR BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 548 Thanked: 94 Times View My Garage	I am looking to fit an AC in the gypsy next month after the rest of the work is done. What are the options other than the Sanden? mine is a 2007 model MPFI king
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30th June 2009, 11:16	#47
KSM-Vtec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: MH-02-India-Bombay-Bandra Posts: 1,561 Thanked: 447 Times View My Garage	Can someone plz put up detailed pics of the AC install(condensor location, electric fan, compressor details, plumbing)???
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16th July 2009, 15:41	#48
Gear-ge BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kodaikanal Posts: 27 Thanked: 3 Times	Hey guys ! Just the thread I was looking for. Am off to get a Wagon-R electric fan for my Gypsy King carb. Been havaing a hard time with the temp gauge shooting up to the red while idling/crawling through Delhi's rush-hour traffic. Even without the a/c. Now I can probably get a belt to connect up the compressor, get the condensor coil (under-belly) checked, replace solenoid switch and drive around in air-conditioned comfort. Oh, wait. That will be after I put in a new clutch assembly, change suspension/tie-rod bushes check shockers. Well, after the next pay-check for sure. Great discussion. Khan-saheb, let us know what aircon you put in and what-went-where ?
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19th July 2009, 15:53	#49
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,873 Thanked: 323,084 Times View My Garage	Gypsy owners considering an air-con install would benefit from reading this thread as well.
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10th August 2009, 02:06	#50
wanderhermit BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Panchkula Posts: 200 Thanked: 158 Times	If I remember correctly, Gypsy used to come with factory fitted A/c at one time. Can anyone confirm that. And if i did, can't we replicate the exact setup at per the Maruti Suzuki stock setup.
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10th August 2009, 11:02	#52
Sawyer Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pune Posts: 2,666 Thanked: 1,793 Times	On a lighter note, has anyone considered installing a fan inside the cabin directed at the driver and/or passengers?! Cheaper and more vehicle friendly for sure. Wasnt that long ago when it was considered a luxury! Reading all the posts, for a MPFI Gypsy, what would be the single modification to make that will accomodate the additional load on the engine? Larger engine driven fan? The Wagon R electrical fan in place of the engine driven fan referred earlier? Larger radiator? Or a new fan/radiator combination? Btw, I would go down that path only if a cabin fan proves to be totally useless.
	() Thanks

10th August 2009, 20:43	#54
wanderhermit BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Panchkula Posts: 200 Thanked: 158 Times	I have one question. which will be the best suited radiator if I want to install a new radiator. Can somebody suggest a radiator of a similliar Japanese car/suv. I think they are more reliable than the rest. I hav3e also heard that Ford make one of the best radiators. Is it true. Is it possible to put any ford radiator in Gypsy. Ikon, Fiesta or Fusion?
	() Thanks

11th August 2009, 12:34	#55
nikhil1300 BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: bangalore Posts: 140 Thanked: 2 Times	A/c For Gypsy Nice thread was planing to install A/C for my gypsy 1998 hard top can anyone tell me where i can buy the entire a/c unit in bangalore and which garage according to you can give me a trouble free installation.I am not so technical pls correct me changing belt driven fan to electrical changing the radiator (wagan R,118N, Contessa ambassador) changing the fan (wagan R,118NE,Contessa,ambassador) installing compressor(sanden 507) installing condenser coil(super king) installing the blower (super king) gas(R134a) stock thermoclutch(??????) and related attachments.(??????)
	() Thanks

19th August 2009, 14:11	#57
nikhil1300 BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: bangalore Posts: 140 Thanked: 2 Times	so people on this post or forum what will be the final verdict.I am not so technical pls correct me changing belt driven fan to electrical changing the radiator (wagan R,118N, Contessa ambassador) changing the fan (wagan R,118NE,Contessa,ambassador) installing compressor(sanden 507) installing condenser coil(super king) installing the blower (super king) gas(R134a) stock thermoclutch(??????) and related attachments.(??????)
	() Thanks

19th August 2009, 15:40	#58
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,379 Thanked: 17,320 Times	changing belt driven fan to electrical No, belt driven fan is retained. Electrical fan is added changing the radiator (wagan R,118N, Contessa ambassador) Basically a bigger radiator with more core changing the fan (wagan R,118NE,Contessa,ambassador) yes installing compressor(sanden 507) yes installing condenser coil(super king) yes installing the blower (super king) yes gas(R134a) yes stock thermoclutch(??????) You meant thermo stat? and related attachments.(??????) tubings and pipes Maybe you want to do some heat sealing inside the cabin to make the ac more efficient also. Find out a good A.S.S or specialist AC guy and get it done, they will take care of the job.
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24th August 2009, 08:59	#59
nikhil1300 BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: bangalore Posts: 140 Thanked: 2 Times	thanks a lot jaggu will look in to it and get back with the details
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27th August 2009, 10:51	#60
nikhil1300 BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: bangalore Posts: 140 Thanked: 2 Times	just wondering Reva Cars come with an a/c is it possible to install Reva Cars a/c in our half cabin gypsy i think since Reva car is the smallest car on the indian roads may be the a/c unit is compact and powerful Does any one have any idea on this
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