Airconditioning in the Gypsy

harjeev · 26th February 2010, 09:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntomer

Thanks Imran, for the pics. This really is a clean installation.

Yours is an MPFI, no?

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Hey Nitin
ladak.imran's vehicle is an MPFI however the last two pictures are of a Carb!!!

ntomer · 26th February 2010, 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by harjeev

Hey Nitin
ladak.imran's vehicle is an MPFI however the last two pictures are of a Carb!!!

Harjeev Bhai,

Suggest a place for AC fitting.

Without AC, I will be able to use the Gypsy for max 3 months in a year :-(

People mentioned someone in Okhla; I am not able to recollect his name. Do you have any idea who/which workshop it is?

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KSM-Vtec · 26th February 2010, 11:33

@ imran - thats a clean install i must say. worth the price.

where is this guy in bandra?

ladak.imran · 26th February 2010, 14:06

KSM, The last 2 pics were of another gypsy - just to show the shoddy work done, as compared to my installation..

This guy is on Waterfield Road - Do you know Sigdi ka lane? Come out of the lane (on to waterfield road), and turn right - right there, you'll see ISRAR ka one chhota board..

There's a bike mechanic next to him too, if im not mistaken... And you'll always see cars/bikes parked there..

harjeev · 26th February 2010, 14:12

@nitin
No idea buddy, I am still not looking forward to installing an AC in my vehicle.

I the 1st stage I have planned a good airfilter (5k), front guard (20k) and a good pair of fog lamps maybe hella's 3000 8-10k and a good pair of seats.
This should take about 34-40k.
So the AC will have to come much much later.
No offence, but after diving around in a MM550 for more than a year I really don't feel the need for an AC, for the time being buts its definitely on the cards for later!!!

EDIT: PM Vaibhav. He has an aircon in his gypsy and it performs remarkably well.

Desmosedici · 7th March 2010, 16:25

But Imran, is 25K justified with secondhand parts.

ladak.imran · 7th March 2010, 16:55

So far, the AC works properly.. I guess in a couple of months time, I'll get to know if 25k is justified or not.. It is a lot of money, I agree.

But in terms of the condition, the blower and compressor both look brand new to me.
And as of now, the performance is more than satisfying too..

In bandra, another guy offered to install a 2nd hand ac kit for me, for 19000. But I doubt his quality of finishing would come even close to Israr Bhai's...

gsferrari · 7th March 2010, 17:19

Imran Bhai - would this void the warranty. This is the ONLY reason I want to get it done by the dealer.

Desmosedici · 7th March 2010, 18:45

GSF

Warranty does not cover everything. Please check what all is covered but IMHO i think after market is a good solution.

ladak.imran · 8th March 2010, 13:00

GS,
I'm not too sure about the warranty, afsos..
I bought my gypsy secondhand, so I wouldn't know - why don't you go to the suzuki showroom on SV Road (Bandra), and ask them once and for all?
Also, the guys on SV Road had told me the cost for fitting a company AC would be around 30,000... You might want to check that out as well...

Desmosedici · 10th March 2010, 23:40

Is it possible to route the aftermarket blower to all the existing vents, meaning the blowers on the dash, blowers for the feet etc.

Would this require any major modification or will it just be to disconnect the existing blower and install the aftermarket one to all the existing ones. Can this be controlled by the existing blower control switch on the dash?

KSM-Vtec · 11th March 2010, 09:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desmosedici

Is it possible to route the aftermarket blower to all the existing vents, meaning the blowers on the dash, blowers for the feet etc.

Thats exactly what i had done. Had connected the superking to the vents in the dash. Not much of a problem, also the superking fits within the dash

so one need not fix it below the dash.

tsk1979 · 11th March 2010, 10:20

I was getting indica's AC gas recharge from a well known local guy (Sai in sector 16 noida).
He told me that gypsy overheating is a problem because people put condenser in front. If you put it above rear axle with separate fan, the sanden 507 works fine without any overheating issues. He says putting condensor in front of radiator blocks the air.

KSM-Vtec · 11th March 2010, 10:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

I was getting indica's AC gas recharge from a well known local guy (Sai in sector 16 noida).
He told me that gypsy overheating is a problem because people put condenser in front. If you put it above rear axle with separate fan, the sanden 507 works fine without any overheating issues. He says putting condensor in front of radiator blocks the air.

True TSK, but thats not an solution for the guys who want to go OTR.

Also if a complete job is done then even with the condensor in front of the radiator is not a problem.

Steps for a complete job -

1. Get condenser at least 6 inches smaller than the front area of the radiator.
2. Get a powerful aux electric fan
3. Change the stock radiator with a 3 to 4 line copper radiator
4. Use good quality engine oil
5. Use pure coolant
6. Set the thermostat timing right
7. Dont rev too much in traffic

Another spot where the condenser can be mounted is the roof -

Air Conditioners, AC, AC Condensers

tsk1979 · 11th March 2010, 11:09

According to the guy the condenser sits slightly higher than the prop shaft. So no problem. Moreover, I think Member GoSlow's gypsy has this setup, and he frequents the NIOC OTRS which have pretty scary terrain!

26th February 2010, 11:33	#78
KSM-Vtec Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: MH-02-India-Bombay-Bandra Posts: 1,561 Thanked: 447 Times View My Garage	@ imran - thats a clean install i must say. worth the price. where is this guy in bandra?
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26th February 2010, 14:06	#79
ladak.imran BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bombay Posts: 294 Thanked: 6 Times	KSM, The last 2 pics were of another gypsy - just to show the shoddy work done, as compared to my installation.. This guy is on Waterfield Road - Do you know Sigdi ka lane? Come out of the lane (on to waterfield road), and turn right - right there, you'll see ISRAR ka one chhota board.. There's a bike mechanic next to him too, if im not mistaken... And you'll always see cars/bikes parked there..
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26th February 2010, 14:12	#80
harjeev Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,900 Thanked: 296 Times View My Garage	@nitin No idea buddy, I am still not looking forward to installing an AC in my vehicle. I the 1st stage I have planned a good airfilter (5k), front guard (20k) and a good pair of fog lamps maybe hella's 3000 8-10k and a good pair of seats. This should take about 34-40k. So the AC will have to come much much later. No offence, but after diving around in a MM550 for more than a year I really don't feel the need for an AC, for the time being buts its definitely on the cards for later!!! EDIT: PM Vaibhav. He has an aircon in his gypsy and it performs remarkably well.
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7th March 2010, 16:25	#81
Desmosedici Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: White Village Posts: 1,501 Thanked: 628 Times View My Garage	But Imran, is 25K justified with secondhand parts.
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7th March 2010, 16:55	#82
ladak.imran BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bombay Posts: 294 Thanked: 6 Times	So far, the AC works properly.. I guess in a couple of months time, I'll get to know if 25k is justified or not.. It is a lot of money, I agree. But in terms of the condition, the blower and compressor both look brand new to me. And as of now, the performance is more than satisfying too.. In bandra, another guy offered to install a 2nd hand ac kit for me, for 19000. But I doubt his quality of finishing would come even close to Israr Bhai's...
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7th March 2010, 17:19	#83
gsferrari Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,026 Thanked: 2,028 Times	Imran Bhai - would this void the warranty. This is the ONLY reason I want to get it done by the dealer.
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7th March 2010, 18:45	#84
Desmosedici Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: White Village Posts: 1,501 Thanked: 628 Times View My Garage	GSF Warranty does not cover everything. Please check what all is covered but IMHO i think after market is a good solution.
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8th March 2010, 13:00	#85
ladak.imran BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bombay Posts: 294 Thanked: 6 Times	GS, I'm not too sure about the warranty, afsos.. I bought my gypsy secondhand, so I wouldn't know - why don't you go to the suzuki showroom on SV Road (Bandra), and ask them once and for all? Also, the guys on SV Road had told me the cost for fitting a company AC would be around 30,000... You might want to check that out as well...
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10th March 2010, 23:40	#86
Desmosedici Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: White Village Posts: 1,501 Thanked: 628 Times View My Garage	Is it possible to route the aftermarket blower to all the existing vents, meaning the blowers on the dash, blowers for the feet etc. Would this require any major modification or will it just be to disconnect the existing blower and install the aftermarket one to all the existing ones. Can this be controlled by the existing blower control switch on the dash?
	() Thanks

11th March 2010, 10:20	#88
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,689 Thanked: 23,495 Times View My Garage	I was getting indica's AC gas recharge from a well known local guy (Sai in sector 16 noida). He told me that gypsy overheating is a problem because people put condenser in front. If you put it above rear axle with separate fan, the sanden 507 works fine without any overheating issues. He says putting condensor in front of radiator blocks the air.
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11th March 2010, 11:09	#90
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,689 Thanked: 23,495 Times View My Garage	According to the guy the condenser sits slightly higher than the prop shaft. So no problem. Moreover, I think Member GoSlow's gypsy has this setup, and he frequents the NIOC OTRS which have pretty scary terrain!
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