The Tata Safari 2.2L Technical / Problems Thread

jkdas · 10th February 2010, 16:05

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Originally Posted by jkdas

Nearing 60k;

Any idea how much the service would cost? I need to replace the clutch + pressure plate ( 10k approx). Seems I also need to overhaul the suspension at front and rear; I was quoted 20k just for this! Does this cost so much?

+1 to dadu/tsk; I too follow that rule

Seems I should have slowed down for pot holes etc now and then; SA said he was surprised at the stage of my suspension. Let's see.

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Originally Posted by HappyWheels

JK,

Not related to your query above, but what happened to the EW?

Bad news is I cant get it now.
Good news is AMC thing is almost out. I will get info in 2-3 days. The best part is that with Gold plan or so even battery etc is covered and they make you take extended warranty along with it.

They also have silver one too for AMC.

Waiting to say

when I hear how much the AMC + EW will cost.

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Originally Posted by LongDrive lover

I think I didn't put my query in appropriate words. What I wanted to know was that how does one come to know that air filter is jammed up/ clogged? As such I am not facing any problem with pick up/ power loss/ breathlessness or anything. Only thing that prompted me to ask this is a little coarser/louder sound from engine now (after 11k) then compared to when it was newer! Can it be a normal change in sound due to increasing use? I am yet to visit TASC for any clarification on this. Your valuable suggestions please..

Look for the red indicator on the air filter plumping. Check manual.

dadu · 10th February 2010, 16:07

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Originally Posted by LongDrive lover

I think I didn't put my query in appropriate words. What I wanted to know was that how does one come to know that air filter is jammed up/ clogged? As such I am not facing any problem with pick up/ power loss/ breathlessness or anything. Only thing that prompted me to ask this is a little coarser/louder sound from engine now (after 11k) then compared to when it was newer! Can it be a normal change in sound due to increasing use? I am yet to visit TASC for any clarification on this. Your valuable suggestions please..

Take it out and tap it against a wall or floor, if you se lot of accumulated dust = change required or change every 15k kms, if unsure, 7.5k Kms if driving on dusty and unmetalled roads.

LongDrive lover · 10th February 2010, 16:33

[quote=sbhaduri;1723782]

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Originally Posted by arijit.co.in

@Arijit: I own a 2.2VTT LX Nov 09 and i use the following sequence for downshift and upshift and find the engine to be taking it nicely without engine stalling.I have not gone through the manual.I get a decent FE of 12.5-13kmpl with AC in city.I use premium diesel of BP.

>60km/hr 5th gear

5th gear at 60 km/hr? Is it ok? I think as per manual it should be at 90? I change it around 75-80. Obviously your FE will be good with upshift at that low speed, but, more important is its effect on engine life! Experienced owners your observations please. I haven't yet got FE of 12kmpl even on long highway trips.

LongDrive lover · 10th February 2010, 16:41

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Originally Posted by jkdas

Look for the red indicator on the air filter plumping. Check manual.

Thanks JK dada and dadu.

Yes, red indicator looks red. Will take up it to TASS in couple of days and confirm if it needs to be changed right now. In any case will change at 15k service.

cool_dube · 10th February 2010, 17:33

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Originally Posted by sbhaduri

[0-10km/h 1st gear
10-20km/hr 2nd gear
20-40km/hr 3rd gear
40-60km/hr 4th gear
>60km/hr 5th gear

Do you own a petrol Safari by any chance

shishir11224 · 13th February 2010, 17:45

[quote=cool_dube;1704692]Guys,

Dude try out the philips night light its the same wattage as the original and provides a brighter output.Even i had tried for the osram but it tends to heat up the headlamps which makes it to have a faded look plus the wiring has to be changed to fit the higher volt bulbs which risks the warranty.

tsk1979 · 17th February 2010, 16:58

Looks like the white elephant is refusing to give up the ghosts.
Now to give the air leaking kind of sound company, there are 2 more sounds.
1. Today morning when I put reverse gear, there was some glass clinking kind of sound which came and went for some time. It happened just once.
2. Sometimes while costing, there is a sound from the wheels which is like brakes squeeling, only that I am not using the brakes. there is no problem in running, and I don't think it is coming from brake pads as this sound keeps coming even if I tap brakes lightly. Its related to wheel rotation speed, nothing to do with engine speed.

smsrini · 17th February 2010, 19:01

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

Sometimes while costing, there is a sound from the wheels which is like brakes squeeling, only that I am not using the brakes. there is no problem in running, and I don't think it is coming from brake pads as this sound keeps coming even if I tap brakes lightly. Its related to wheel rotation speed, nothing to do with engine speed.

could be Wheel bearing ?

jkdas · 17th February 2010, 21:07

People! Tata has started giving out AMC similar stuff. Diablomk got one, its cost him 27k , will last for 5 years/1,20,000kms. It will cover parts that need to be changed coz of defect or so.

Will update once he gets the bill and card.

Rahulk76 · 18th February 2010, 09:59

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

Looks like the white elephant is refusing to give up the ghosts.
Now to give the air leaking kind of sound company, there are 2 more sounds.
1. Today morning when I put reverse gear, there was some glass clinking kind of sound which came and went for some time. It happened just once.
2. Sometimes while costing, there is a sound from the wheels which is like brakes squeeling, only that I am not using the brakes. there is no problem in running, and I don't think it is coming from brake pads as this sound keeps coming even if I tap brakes lightly. Its related to wheel rotation speed, nothing to do with engine speed.

1. Prolly Syncros or the Bearings have/ are on the way out.

2. Dust on brake liners. A good air pressure cleaning would take care

tsk1979 · 18th February 2010, 12:41

Yesterday I heard this sound even in neutral with clutch pressed. Looks like clutch release bearing gone or synchros.

ram.west · 22nd February 2010, 14:09

Guys, there is this creaking noise coming from the rear door of my Safari and its simply getting on my nerves. Everytime I take it to the TASS and they try something with the bushes and its silent for the one or two days and the sound is back in the next couple of days

. What could be the possible problem? ? If there is a fix , what should I do ??

jaysmokesleaves · 22nd February 2010, 15:08

Take out the stepney and then mount it back in place and tighten the nuts well. Should take care of the dicky door noise for more than 2 days atleast.

bj96 · 22nd February 2010, 15:52

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Originally Posted by ram.west

creaking noise coming from the rear door...

+1 to what jaysmokesleaves says. It is due to the load of spare wheel.

It was present on my truck too. About six months back, TASS tightened and lubricated the rear door hinges. Now it does not make such noise. Mine is VX and oem alloys are lighter than CI rims- hence, would be less stressing on the door hinges.

-BJ

ram.west · 22nd February 2010, 15:57

@jaysmokes, bj96 - Thanks a ton guys!! Will try that out for sure today. But then is there no permanant solution for this ??

13th February 2010, 17:45	#1791
shishir11224 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: mangalore Posts: 20 Thanked: 0 Times	[quote=cool_dube;1704692]Guys, Dude try out the philips night light its the same wattage as the original and provides a brighter output.Even i had tried for the osram but it tends to heat up the headlamps which makes it to have a faded look plus the wiring has to be changed to fit the higher volt bulbs which risks the warranty.
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17th February 2010, 16:58	#1792
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,688 Thanked: 23,494 Times View My Garage	Looks like the white elephant is refusing to give up the ghosts. Now to give the air leaking kind of sound company, there are 2 more sounds. 1. Today morning when I put reverse gear, there was some glass clinking kind of sound which came and went for some time. It happened just once. 2. Sometimes while costing, there is a sound from the wheels which is like brakes squeeling, only that I am not using the brakes. there is no problem in running, and I don't think it is coming from brake pads as this sound keeps coming even if I tap brakes lightly. Its related to wheel rotation speed, nothing to do with engine speed.
	() Thanks

17th February 2010, 21:07	#1794
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,685 Thanked: 1,497 Times View My Garage	People! Tata has started giving out AMC similar stuff. Diablomk got one, its cost him 27k , will last for 5 years/1,20,000kms. It will cover parts that need to be changed coz of defect or so. Will update once he gets the bill and card.
	() Thanks

18th February 2010, 12:41	#1796
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,688 Thanked: 23,494 Times View My Garage	Yesterday I heard this sound even in neutral with clutch pressed. Looks like clutch release bearing gone or synchros.
	() Thanks

22nd February 2010, 14:09	#1797
ram.west BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Hartford,NY Posts: 417 Thanked: 34 Times	Creaking Noise in the rear Tail gate!! Guys, there is this creaking noise coming from the rear door of my Safari and its simply getting on my nerves. Everytime I take it to the TASS and they try something with the bushes and its silent for the one or two days and the sound is back in the next couple of days . What could be the possible problem? ? If there is a fix , what should I do ??
	() Thanks

22nd February 2010, 15:08	#1798
jaysmokesleaves Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mostly Mumbai Posts: 1,701 Thanked: 1,466 Times	Take out the stepney and then mount it back in place and tighten the nuts well. Should take care of the dicky door noise for more than 2 days atleast. Last edited by jaysmokesleaves : 22nd February 2010 at 15:09.
	() Thanks

22nd February 2010, 15:57	#1800
ram.west BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Hartford,NY Posts: 417 Thanked: 34 Times	@jaysmokes, bj96 - Thanks a ton guys!! Will try that out for sure today. But then is there no permanant solution for this ??
	() Thanks