The Tata Safari 2.2L Technical / Problems Thread

tsk1979 · 13th January 2010, 17:15

I spoke to customer care(a senior guy) here.
He says, its being offered to customer with cars done less than 10,000kms. So you can get 30K,40K,50K kms AMC, lots of flexible options available. In future, it may be offered to customers with longer mileage, but nothing concrete is there.
that said, if you have extended warranty, and get 40K or 3 year coverage for 12000 odd, go for it. It comes to less than 30p/km maintenance cost! And the best part, there is a good chance your brake pads will need replacement by 50K on the odo. Ditto for suspension bushes etc., which cost a whopping lot in labor!

Shubhendra · 14th January 2010, 01:02

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Originally Posted by bj96

1. Find the VIN number (it will be on a bar-coded sticker stuck on one of the window glass) or the complete chassis number and post it on "Decoding the VIN thread". Alternatively, check your RC book- manufacturing month/year is stamped in it and usually it is correct too.

2. Take a snap of your engine bonnet (after opening the hood) and post a close-up of area (about 1 sqft) near the wiper fluid tank (RHS facing the car). Presence of ECU cover is an indicator of retro done. There may be other retros, difficult to detect by looking, but, ECU cover is a good start.

If you are in Pune, invite me for a glass of soda water in one of the joints on F C Road. I will inspect your beast for free

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-BJ

Thanks a lot bj96, I am not in Pune but will be there next week to buy a lot of Gypsys

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if you are really interested in meeting to me without my Safari with Soda Water

, give me your preferrable date and time. I would be more than happy to meet you.

Regards,
Shubhendra Singh

harjeev · 14th January 2010, 11:44

Hey guys just wanted to update!!!
I spoke to the Tata Motor Delhi(Gurgaon) office as I needed to clarify the service schedule for my BEAR
The last service was done @ 25422 kms on 11th Febuary 2009. I wanted to ask whether The ODO meter on the vehicle now reads 39600 kms approx. So I wanted to clarify whether I should wait till 45k kms or get it done now as the vehicle has run for 15k kms since the last service.

The executive told me as its almost a year since the last service and I have covered 15k kms since the last service its advisable to get it done now.
Further he told me as the extended warranty was valid they advise the 1year or 15k kms service schedule, whichever is earlier.

So I would be taking the BEAR for the next service in the next couple of days!!!

dadu · 14th January 2010, 11:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by harjeev

Hey guys just wanted to update!!!
I spoke to the Tata Motor Delhi(Gurgaon) office as I needed to clarify the service schedule for my BEAR
The last service was done @ 25422 kms on 11th Febuary 2009. I wanted to ask whether The ODO meter on the vehicle now reads 39600 kms approx. So I wanted to clarify whether I should wait till 45k kms or get it done now as the vehicle has run for 15k kms since the last service.

The executive told me as its almost a year since the last service and I have covered 15k kms since the last service its advisable to get it done now.
Further he told me as the extended warranty was valid they advise the 1year or 15k kms service schedule, whichever is earlier.

So I would be taking the BEAR for the next service in the next couple of days!!!

He is right, its 15k Kms or 1 year service interval, whichever comes first.

vivek.singh.73 · 16th January 2010, 16:46

Hi,

How does one apply for this AMC, I didn't see it as an option on website or heard from service advisor.

Is this AMC tied to vendor or applicable across vendors?

Thanks

Vivek

vijuvarghese · 16th January 2010, 16:59

I was offered AMC at the time of delivery from showroom. But was told only about first year and I didn't have knowledge about a package for two years!

Purchased AMC for the first year (20K kms) for Rs.3788/-

Viju

Abhiknov · 17th January 2010, 06:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by timj

Been a proud owner of a Safari EX for a little over a year. Has done just a little less than 10k Kms.

I did a quick search in this thread for my problem , doesn't look like its been discussed before.

Mostly during a cold start and most of the times within a couple of meters after the vehicle starts to move, any turn of the steering wheel produces a loud clunk from somewhere in the engine area. I very lightly feel the sound in the steering wheel, so I guess it must be something in the column or related areas. Its just one clunk and nothing after that. The clunk sound like something hitting metal and is quite audible outside the car too and sounds as if, something was stuck and it was released by force

Anybody facing/faced a similar issue?

Apart from this and lots of screeches from under the seats and door rattles, I guess my ownership has been pleasant enough after my initial oil leak problems were sorted out immediately after delivery.

If the clunk is on releasing the clutch, then you got nothing to worry about. Its the safari announcing to your neighbours that the king is off to take a round of its kingdom!

richie4u · 17th January 2010, 11:14

Well the clunk heard when you turn the safari's steering all the way to the end is a standard feature that tata is providing us with,It happens on most of the safari's.

tsk1979 · 18th January 2010, 11:46

Many people I know have had this problem of rats using cabin as bedroom.
In the indica, the solution is to put a wire mesh outside the vent holes for AC.
However, people have told me that in safari it will not work, as there are big gaps where wires and pedals(eg clutch) go inside.
So putting a mesh never solves the problem.
But there should be some solution? Has anybody gotten it done.
More than rats I am worried about snakes. What if some poisonous snake makes the dash its home?

bantejas · 18th January 2010, 12:36

Hello all,

My truck now has done somewhere around 14.5k and is due for its service at 15k. However, I felt that there's a small problem that I am facing for the past 2 weeks: Sometimes, at around 1200-1400 rpm in second and third gear, it feels as the truck faces a small hiccup (Kind of breathlessness) after which it revs easily. Has anybody faced this problem? Is this a problem anyways? I think so because I see this issue even after 2 hrs of driving.

Tejas

amitk26 · 18th January 2010, 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

Many people I know have had this problem of rats using cabin as bedroom.
In the indica, the solution is to put a wire mesh outside the vent holes for AC.
However, people have told me that in safari it will not work, as there are big gaps where wires and pedals(eg clutch) go inside.
So putting a mesh never solves the problem.
But there should be some solution? Has anybody gotten it done.
More than rats I am worried about snakes. What if some poisonous snake makes the dash its home?

I would love to see a solution for Rat proofing.Apart from front there is one more point on the rear right side hidden under the skirting there is one vent for trapped air while closing the door, It is covered by just a rubber flap.

tsk1979 · 18th January 2010, 13:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by amitk26

I would love to see a solution for Rat proofing.Apart from front there is one more point on the rear right side hidden under the skirting there is one vent for trapped air while closing the door, It is covered by just a rubber flap.

Is it possible to access this vent from inside the cabin? I suspect the rat came in from where rather than the engine side since the path from there would be very complex for the rat. I talked to service center also, and they are clueless. They admit rats come in, but they say they do not know from where do they come in!

amitk26 · 18th January 2010, 13:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

Is it possible to access this vent from inside the cabin? I suspect the rat came in from where rather than the engine side since the path from there would be very complex for the rat. I talked to service center also, and they are clueless. They admit rats come in, but they say they do not know from where do they come in!

Yes because it is quite a big vent as visible from outside. When you close any door the blast of air suggests that it is open from inside. I I think it opens somewhere in the boot ( Most probably near to the place where Jack is kept) or near to seat hinges in 2nd row.

timj · 18th January 2010, 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abhiknov

If the clunk is on releasing the clutch, then you got nothing to worry about. Its the safari announcing to your neighbours that the king is off to take a round of its kingdom!

Nope its not while releasing the clutch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by richie4u

Well the clunk heard when you turn the safari's steering all the way to the end is a standard feature that tata is providing us with,It happens on most of the safari's.

Yes, I guess the clunck comes only when the steer has gone through almost till the end.

Will take it up with the service guys when I go for the regular service and see what they have to say.

harjeev · 18th January 2010, 16:14

Gave my vehicle for the 40k service today.The SA gave an estimate of 8.5k. This includes an engine oil change, gear oil change and Dry cleaning, which I've later told them not to do as they quoted 1.5K + S.Tax. Will get it done from outside.
As this is the 1st all paid service, will update later when I settle the bill!!!

I've got it serviced earlier as I got the 30k kms service @ 25.5k kms and its been almost 11 months since I got it serviced!!!

13th January 2010, 17:15	#1681
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,688 Thanked: 23,494 Times View My Garage	I spoke to customer care(a senior guy) here. He says, its being offered to customer with cars done less than 10,000kms. So you can get 30K,40K,50K kms AMC, lots of flexible options available. In future, it may be offered to customers with longer mileage, but nothing concrete is there. that said, if you have extended warranty, and get 40K or 3 year coverage for 12000 odd, go for it. It comes to less than 30p/km maintenance cost! And the best part, there is a good chance your brake pads will need replacement by 50K on the odo. Ditto for suspension bushes etc., which cost a whopping lot in labor!
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14th January 2010, 11:44	#1683
harjeev Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,900 Thanked: 296 Times View My Garage	Hey guys just wanted to update!!! I spoke to the Tata Motor Delhi(Gurgaon) office as I needed to clarify the service schedule for my BEAR The last service was done @ 25422 kms on 11th Febuary 2009. I wanted to ask whether The ODO meter on the vehicle now reads 39600 kms approx. So I wanted to clarify whether I should wait till 45k kms or get it done now as the vehicle has run for 15k kms since the last service. The executive told me as its almost a year since the last service and I have covered 15k kms since the last service its advisable to get it done now. Further he told me as the extended warranty was valid they advise the 1year or 15k kms service schedule, whichever is earlier. So I would be taking the BEAR for the next service in the next couple of days!!! Last edited by harjeev : 14th January 2010 at 11:46.
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16th January 2010, 16:46	#1685
vivek.singh.73 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Noida Posts: 256 Thanked: 32 Times	Hi, How does one apply for this AMC, I didn't see it as an option on website or heard from service advisor. Is this AMC tied to vendor or applicable across vendors? Thanks Vivek
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16th January 2010, 16:59	#1686
vijuvarghese BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 101 Thanked: 9 Times	I was offered AMC at the time of delivery from showroom. But was told only about first year and I didn't have knowledge about a package for two years! Purchased AMC for the first year (20K kms) for Rs.3788/- Viju
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17th January 2010, 11:14	#1688
richie4u BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: India Posts: 634 Thanked: 611 Times View My Garage	Well the clunk heard when you turn the safari's steering all the way to the end is a standard feature that tata is providing us with,It happens on most of the safari's.
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18th January 2010, 11:46	#1689
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,688 Thanked: 23,494 Times View My Garage	Howto seal the cabin against rats etc., Many people I know have had this problem of rats using cabin as bedroom. In the indica, the solution is to put a wire mesh outside the vent holes for AC. However, people have told me that in safari it will not work, as there are big gaps where wires and pedals(eg clutch) go inside. So putting a mesh never solves the problem. But there should be some solution? Has anybody gotten it done. More than rats I am worried about snakes. What if some poisonous snake makes the dash its home?
	() Thanks

18th January 2010, 12:36	#1690
bantejas BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 273 Thanked: 30 Times	Hello all, My truck now has done somewhere around 14.5k and is due for its service at 15k. However, I felt that there's a small problem that I am facing for the past 2 weeks: Sometimes, at around 1200-1400 rpm in second and third gear, it feels as the truck faces a small hiccup (Kind of breathlessness) after which it revs easily. Has anybody faced this problem? Is this a problem anyways? I think so because I see this issue even after 2 hrs of driving. Tejas
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18th January 2010, 16:14	#1695
harjeev Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,900 Thanked: 296 Times View My Garage	Gave my vehicle for the 40k service today.The SA gave an estimate of 8.5k. This includes an engine oil change, gear oil change and Dry cleaning, which I've later told them not to do as they quoted 1.5K + S.Tax. Will get it done from outside. As this is the 1st all paid service, will update later when I settle the bill!!! I've got it serviced earlier as I got the 30k kms service @ 25.5k kms and its been almost 11 months since I got it serviced!!!
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