Cracking the Da Vinci "TATA Safari 2.2l" ECU Code

dadu · 29th October 2009, 16:24

yes but only the basics, read error code and erase them, the ELM ones with software can do much more like designing you own dashboards, saving the run data for later analysis etc. For apprx $20 more (hardware cost).

tsk1979 · 29th October 2009, 16:30

Dadu, what about this?
DealExtreme: $29.99 ELM327 USB Vehicle OBD-2 Scanner Tool
Its ELM 327

then there is this one
DealExtreme: $24.70 VAG-TACHO USB Vehicle OBD Cable with Software CD

dadu · 29th October 2009, 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

Dadu, what about this?
DealExtreme: $29.99 ELM327 USB Vehicle OBD-2 Scanner Tool
Its ELM 327

then there is this one
DealExtreme: $24.70 VAG-TACHO USB Vehicle OBD Cable with Software CD

ELM one will work with all OBDII complaint vehicles but am not sure on the VAG one, as they will work only with certain vehicles like VW, BMW and Skoda.

The ELM one is a real good deal, I think I bought one for some $87, worth buying.

DRC · 29th October 2009, 17:33

@svdath, I justt sent you a mail with ELM327 datasheet.

As I understand, K-line is a physical layer spec (one wire). KWP 2000 is a layer above it not sure about the specs though. K-line spec is similar to UART in simplex mode (can not quote a source, but remember having read it somewhere)

gharika · 5th February 2010, 13:07

OBD on Scorpio

Hi guys, following the tips in the thread I tested out the ELM327 on my 2006 Scorpio. Here are the results from the communication (using PROSCAN):

ELM > 0100
4100983B0011
ELM327v1.5a > ATDPN
A3
ELM327v1.5a > ATSP 3
OK
ELM327v1.5a > ATMA
ERROR: No Response!
ELM327v1.5a >

And here is the full log:
02-05-2010 12:44:47.125 Opening Port 2 (9600 baud) with ELM Timeout = 500 ms.
02-05-2010 12:44:47.203 Comm Port 2 successfully opened.
02-05-2010 12:44:47.218 Tx: ATZ
02-05-2010 12:44:48.140 Rx: ELM327v1.5a[ELM327v1.5a] (ATZ)
02-05-2010 12:44:48.140 Tx: ATE0
02-05-2010 12:44:48.187 Rx: ATE0OK[ATE0OK] (ATE0)
02-05-2010 12:44:48.187 Tx: ATL0
02-05-2010 12:44:48.250 Rx: OK[OK] (ATL0)
02-05-2010 12:44:48.250 Tx: ATI
02-05-2010 12:44:48.312 Rx: ELM327v1.5a[ELM327v1.5a] (ATI)
02-05-2010 12:44:48.328 Tx: ATST7D
02-05-2010 12:44:48.375 Rx: OK[OK] (ATST7D)
02-05-2010 12:44:48.390 Tx: ATBI
02-05-2010 12:44:48.437 Rx: OK[OK] (ATBI)
02-05-2010 12:44:48.437 Tx: ATSP0
02-05-2010 12:44:48.515 Rx: OK[OK] (ATSP0)
02-05-2010 12:44:48.515 Tx: 0100
02-05-2010 12:44:53.359 Rx: SEARCHING...7F0111[SEARCHING...7F0111] (0100)

So After ATMA, I have no response. Should I try changing the default timeout of 500 msec to a larger value?

Thanks a ton. I am sure you guys will help me get more info out of this non-standard protocol.

dadu · 8th February 2010, 14:12

@Gharika, Sorry I overlooked your post till you PM'ed me. Your situation is pretty much the similar to non-compliant OBD. Can you do as suggested in post #36 and revert with the results.

gharika · 23rd February 2010, 15:15

@dadu
Here is what I get from the Scorpio:

ELM > 0100
4100983B0011
ELM327v1.5a > ATDPN
A3
ELM327v1.5a > ATSP 3
OK
ELM327v1.5a > ATMA
ERROR: No Response!

white-rabbit · 27th July 2011, 20:54

planning to get a obd for Beat.I dont know where to start.A little help please

abbey4u · 5th January 2012, 15:22

I got this elm 327 bluetooth device recently and hooked up on my safari 2.2. Used the android software Torque and voila i can see ecu readings.

ELM327 v 1.4 OBDII / OBD2 Bluetooth Diagnostic Interface OBD Scan Car Accessory | eBay

One error code i can see is powertrain P 1650: I am not sure what this code means? Can someone throw some light on what can be the issue

KALINGA · 5th January 2012, 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by abbey4u

I got this elm 327 bluetooth device recently and hooked up on my safari 2.2. Used the android software Torque and voila i can see ecu readings.

ELM327 v 1.4 OBDII / OBD2 Bluetooth Diagnostic Interface OBD Scan Car Accessory | eBay

One error code i can see is powertrain P 1650: I am not sure what this code means? Can someone throw some light on what can be the issue

Googled this code and found this may be a

PSP (Power Steering Pressure) switch out of self test range

Check the below link :-
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18058/P1650/005712 - Ross-Tech Wiki
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18058 P1650 - 35-10 Powertrain Data Bus?
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P1650 Code: Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message after having a new MFD installed? - AudiWorld Forums
=========================================
S40 Diagnostic Trouble Code "P1650"
=========================================
Ford P Powertrain Diagnostic Fault Codes
=====================================

One basic question.

Is this error code same for all car or its different from company to company ?

dadu · 5th January 2012, 16:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by KALINGA

Googled this code and found this may be a

PSP (Power Steering Pressure) switch out of self test range

Check the below link :-
==============================================
18058/P1650/005712 - Ross-Tech Wiki
=======================================
18058 P1650 - 35-10 Powertrain Data Bus?
========================================
P1650 Code: Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message after having a new MFD installed? - AudiWorld Forums
=========================================
S40 Diagnostic Trouble Code "P1650"
=========================================
Ford P Powertrain Diagnostic Fault Codes
=====================================

One basic question.

Is this error code same for all car or its different from company to company ?

OBD is a standard, as long as the ECU is OBD compliant, the error codes will be standard too.

abbey4u · 5th January 2012, 16:12

so if its related to power steering, what could be the exact issue and how to fix?

(Alok) · 5th January 2012, 17:18

How can we know about turbo charger from this/ these software(s)? I mean how to know the exhaust gas pressure and condition of turbo (kicked/ sleep) according to it?

dadu · 5th January 2012, 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by abbey4u

so if its related to power steering, what could be the exact issue and how to fix?

I dont think its an issue, its just telling that the pressure is out of the defined range(could be TATA custom).

Quote:

Originally Posted by (Alok)

How can we know about turbo charger from this/ these software(s)? I mean how to know the exhaust gas pressure and condition of turbo (kicked/ sleep) according to it?

You can configure the probe for that sensor, depends on the ECU and software used, they should talk to each other.

jkdas · 30th March 2013, 19:16

Tried Fun2drive and it worked ok.
Have posted screenshots here
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...app-bosch.html

Also tried Torque which didn't work sadly and hence tried OBD Car Doctor.
Link https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ardoctor&hl=en

Might get pro later since free version is working and after I learn to understand the parameters.

Some screenshots...

When you switch on AC...

29th October 2009, 16:24	#61
dadu Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,800 Thanked: 463 Times View My Garage	yes but only the basics, read error code and erase them, the ELM ones with software can do much more like designing you own dashboards, saving the run data for later analysis etc. For apprx $20 more (hardware cost).
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29th October 2009, 16:30	#62
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,688 Thanked: 23,489 Times View My Garage	Dadu, what about this? DealExtreme: $29.99 ELM327 USB Vehicle OBD-2 Scanner Tool Its ELM 327 then there is this one DealExtreme: $24.70 VAG-TACHO USB Vehicle OBD Cable with Software CD
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29th October 2009, 17:33	#64
DRC BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cockpit Posts: 907 Thanked: 67 Times View My Garage	@svdath, I justt sent you a mail with ELM327 datasheet. As I understand, K-line is a physical layer spec (one wire). KWP 2000 is a layer above it not sure about the specs though. K-line spec is similar to UART in simplex mode (can not quote a source, but remember having read it somewhere)
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5th February 2010, 13:07	#65
gharika BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 266 Thanked: 151 Times	OBD on Scorpio Hi guys, following the tips in the thread I tested out the ELM327 on my 2006 Scorpio. Here are the results from the communication (using PROSCAN): ELM > 0100 4100983B0011 ELM327v1.5a > ATDPN A3 ELM327v1.5a > ATSP 3 OK ELM327v1.5a > ATMA ERROR: No Response! ELM327v1.5a > And here is the full log: 02-05-2010 12:44:47.125 Opening Port 2 (9600 baud) with ELM Timeout = 500 ms. 02-05-2010 12:44:47.203 Comm Port 2 successfully opened. 02-05-2010 12:44:47.218 Tx: ATZ 02-05-2010 12:44:48.140 Rx: ELM327v1.5a[ELM327v1.5a] (ATZ) 02-05-2010 12:44:48.140 Tx: ATE0 02-05-2010 12:44:48.187 Rx: ATE0OK[ATE0OK] (ATE0) 02-05-2010 12:44:48.187 Tx: ATL0 02-05-2010 12:44:48.250 Rx: OK[OK] (ATL0) 02-05-2010 12:44:48.250 Tx: ATI 02-05-2010 12:44:48.312 Rx: ELM327v1.5a[ELM327v1.5a] (ATI) 02-05-2010 12:44:48.328 Tx: ATST7D 02-05-2010 12:44:48.375 Rx: OK[OK] (ATST7D) 02-05-2010 12:44:48.390 Tx: ATBI 02-05-2010 12:44:48.437 Rx: OK[OK] (ATBI) 02-05-2010 12:44:48.437 Tx: ATSP0 02-05-2010 12:44:48.515 Rx: OK[OK] (ATSP0) 02-05-2010 12:44:48.515 Tx: 0100 02-05-2010 12:44:53.359 Rx: SEARCHING...7F0111[SEARCHING...7F0111] (0100) So After ATMA, I have no response. Should I try changing the default timeout of 500 msec to a larger value? Thanks a ton. I am sure you guys will help me get more info out of this non-standard protocol.
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8th February 2010, 14:12	#66
dadu Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,800 Thanked: 463 Times View My Garage	@Gharika, Sorry I overlooked your post till you PM'ed me. Your situation is pretty much the similar to non-compliant OBD. Can you do as suggested in post #36 and revert with the results.
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23rd February 2010, 15:15	#67
gharika BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chandigarh Posts: 266 Thanked: 151 Times	@dadu Here is what I get from the Scorpio: ELM > 0100 4100983B0011 ELM327v1.5a > ATDPN A3 ELM327v1.5a > ATSP 3 OK ELM327v1.5a > ATMA ERROR: No Response!
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27th July 2011, 20:54	#68
white-rabbit BHPian Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Bangalore Posts: 282 Thanked: 35 Times View My Garage	Re: Cracking the Da Vinci "TATA Safari 2.2l" ECU Code planning to get a obd for Beat.I dont know where to start.A little help please
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5th January 2012, 15:22	#69
abbey4u BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 463 Thanked: 119 Times View My Garage	Re: Cracking the Da Vinci "TATA Safari 2.2l" ECU Code I got this elm 327 bluetooth device recently and hooked up on my safari 2.2. Used the android software Torque and voila i can see ecu readings. ELM327 v 1.4 OBDII / OBD2 Bluetooth Diagnostic Interface OBD Scan Car Accessory \| eBay One error code i can see is powertrain P 1650: I am not sure what this code means? Can someone throw some light on what can be the issue
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5th January 2012, 16:12	#72
abbey4u BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 463 Thanked: 119 Times View My Garage	Re: Cracking the Da Vinci "TATA Safari 2.2l" ECU Code so if its related to power steering, what could be the exact issue and how to fix?
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5th January 2012, 17:18	#73
(Alok) BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: RJ 14 Posts: 621 Thanked: 160 Times	Re: Cracking the Da Vinci "TATA Safari 2.2l" ECU Code How can we know about turbo charger from this/ these software(s)? I mean how to know the exhaust gas pressure and condition of turbo (kicked/ sleep) according to it?
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30th March 2013, 19:16	#75
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,685 Thanked: 1,497 Times View My Garage	Re: Cracking the Da Vinci "TATA Safari 2.2l" ECU Code Tried Fun2drive and it worked ok. Have posted screenshots here http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...app-bosch.html Also tried Torque which didn't work sadly and hence tried OBD Car Doctor. Link https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ardoctor&hl=en Might get pro later since free version is working and after I learn to understand the parameters. Some screenshots... When you switch on AC... Attached Thumbnails Last edited by jkdas : 30th March 2013 at 19:24.
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