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Originally Posted by vipul_singh But we should probably keep the list focused on Palio related issues so that generic issues do not dilute it. |
Amen to that, vipul.
Let me continue with what our Karizma devil started.
I have been facing a similar 'unexplainable' problem with my Palio [1.2 NV ELX - April 2005 - 23000 kms on the odo]
I am on my 3rd battery. The earlier two lasted just about 2 years each! Both were Exide - DIN50. The battery used to loose charge without any apparent reason.
(Drove for 1700 kms over three/four days without any hiccups on the 2nd one. And the day before the return trip was to start, guess what? Battery dead!)
Got fed up with another round of recharging (and with the return trip in mind - was already loosing time there) - went for a new Amaron instead - got only DIN45 which is OE as per them for the Palio.
Fitted the new battery, started it - everything fine. Relieved. Washed the car and started preparation for the return. Packed everything and ready for the trip. Thought I will go and tank up and check the tires.
What happens when I reach the petrol bunk? The battery indicator lights up (when the car is running)
Nightmare, I thought. May be this indicator was malfunctioning since beginning? Rush to the battery dealer. He checks the battery - voltage is fine. Re-directs me to a electrician. Charging current is fine and there is no issue with the alternator / rectifier.
But I am not satisfied (1200+ kms to be done in next two days) with his approach.
FIAT A.S.S. is willing to do the test - but next day.
Go to TVS - they were the dealers of FIAT earlier. Told to come back next day. Next day, the car starts - no battery discharge indicator!! Anyway, better to be safe than sorry - so leave the car at TVS. Evening car is returned, saying that there was a loose contact. What loose contact? Some solder problem, I am told. Whom are they taking for a ride??
Anyway, do a test drive of about 25 - 30 kms. Nothing wrong. Proceed with the return, arrive in Pune without hiccups.
Thought it was all due to some bad karma.
Surprise, surprise - the new battery was flat within 15 days of purchase
Now, twice before the entire alternator, rectifier and wiring was checked. Problems? ZILCH!!
And, Amaron distributor was acting funny. He says bring over the car!! How does he expect me to do that? Every owner has a spare battery in his garage or what?!
So called up my garage. Got a spare battery. Took the vehicle to the garage. Took apart the alternator. It was a Bosch (Made in GB!). There was no problems - everything was fine.
No leakage in wiring - tested with two different sets of multimeters just to be sure. The electrician tried every trick in the book - nothing!!
Took the entire alternator assembly to Bosch service centre for check. They reported everything is fine.
Battery guy says this specific battery (DIN45 Amaron FLO) is one of the robust battery in their range and the rate of complaints is less than 0.01%!! The specific gravity in all the cells was less than 1.1 - deep discharge.
He said some item of equipment must have been left on while shutting down. I told him that, with a Palio, after removing the key only the following items work - (a) interior cabin light, in full on position; (b) horn; (c) central locking & (d) the radiator fan. Chances of 'a', 'b', 'c' mal-functioning ruled out. Radiator fan runs only if the engine temp is very high after shut down..not when the car is idle.
Back to the garage - check each and every item of electrical appliance. (To avoid tinkering with the wiring, I have not fitted any additional equipment). Every item of fuse is intact and there appears to be nothing wrong. (In the last five years only one bulb was fused - reverse indicator).
Battery is bench charged overnight. Fitted it back. (Saturday). Due too team-bhp mega meet, didn't touch the car that day.
Sunday - have taken out a 50 km drive in town - in all sorts of traffic conditions. No problems / hiccups.
Today - won't touch the car.
Tommorrow - let me see what fate has in store!
Now, with this entire exercise, only the following two doubts are what I have in mind, for which purpose I have detailed the above problem -
(a) Get the ECU scanned - any chance of getting an error code on this problem?
(b) Get the radiator thermostat checked - that is only other item which still runs with the key removed. So will it malfunction?