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Nope. It is not present in both L and V variants. L variants have small ORVM internal adjust stalks at that location. | |
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| ![]() Good review GTO but I was surprised to see that u missed out on the Honda Jazz among the competitors (specially after the price revision) ! In my opinion, the Jazz makes a more sensible bet than the Swift even though the latter handles better and has relatively wider service network than the Honda. The Jazz ticks the right boxes in my book as it has ABS and Airbags across all versions and the space and practicality is in a league of its own. Plus you dont have to wait those ridiculous 6 months (Yuck!) So if I was the boy-racer kinds and didnt have to worry about practicality, the Swift would PROBABLY make me wait for the 6 odd months. Thankfully my OHC suffices my need-for-speed so if I put money down on a hatch, it'll surely be the Jazz and not the Swift. P.S - Anyways this new Swift is so much better than the outgoing model so Kudos to MSIL for some good work. Last edited by narula123 : 27th September 2011 at 23:15. |
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Senior - BHPian | ![]() Great review giving credit where due and calling a spade a spade!! Actually this is a great strategy - sell a great first product at superb prices. Achieve cult status and sell the second with less value and at jacked up prices. The cult status achieved in the first iteration propels the sales figures of the second iteration. Otherwise why would Maruti NOT provide better brakes. The current set is frankly DANGEROUS. Even in the old iteration these locked up at the slightest excuse. And to exclude a brake booster at the L and V levels!! Frankly you are taking the customer for a ride. An aftermarket brake booster and a set of Tarox brake discs are what I would recommend as a upgrade before a tuning box. Pardon the excessive posturing but frankly this is unacceptable!! There seems to be a major difference in the configuration of the intake of the diesel compared to the old setup. May be a clue to the change in power delivery. The excuse for an antenna (a stick stuck into a half lemon) looks terrible and does not adjust like the old one. The boot was the final nail in the coffin for me. As a current Swift owner, the new Swift doesn't do it for me. Those who have the current iteration are having the cake and eating it too. Maruti has stolen some of the cake in the current iteration. Drive on, Shibu. |
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Thanks to the Bhpian who loaned his prized possession and thanks Team for the 5* review ![]() EDIT: Price difference between entry petrol and top-end diesel is way too much. Last edited by Sheel : 28th September 2011 at 00:11. | ||
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() I TDed the new Swift yesterday and had been waiting for this official review thread to post. It was a ZDi,having clocked 2070kms. I noted the following points. -The engine noise has been damped a lot is barely audible outside when at idle(you may mistake it to be a petrol). It doesnot filter into the cabin untill past 3000 RPM. After 3000RPM though,the engine gets quite audible(wound up windows and AC couldn't damp it). -Turbo lag is there till about 1700 RPM after which it starts gaining pace and beyond 2100 its a beast(more like a hungry lion pouncing). -In heavy slow moving traffic,i kept to 2,3 and 4th gears and the car didn't shudder or ask for lower gear(i drive a petrol car and i was happy) -Interiors are good but quality of plastic is not so good. The black panels of the dash board looked of different shades under sun,the centre area felt a tad rough. -MID displayed a FE of 14.9 KMPL(i was flooring the throttle). Sales person says it is giving 18-19KMPL with AC in city. -Acceleration is addictive. Once the turbo spools,the car just lurches forward,can be frightening in heavy traffic.(it reminded of the Bajaj Spirit/Safire with its 2/3 speed auto gear box-the scooter would jump when the gear shifted from 1st to 2nd ![]() - Brakes lack the required bite,could have been better(mind you i was driving a ZDi). -The suspension crashed in sharp potholes. -ACC cooling is not effective. Today was a sunny day and the cabin didn't cool that effectively even though the temp was at 18C. The ACC display showed temp as 61C and outside temp as 97C. The test drive person said it had developed some error due to misuse by people(in just 2000kms???). -Blower speed beyond 3 in ACC is very loud and disturbing. -The rear seats were more spacious and rear leg room has increased. Sales person said it was partially due to the recess carved in the back of front seats. -The car was totally rattle free till now. -The PW switch panel was already having a worn out look,like the car was 5 years old ![]() -Stock ICE was very good. It is available as an optional upgrade for LXi/LDi/VXi/VDi buyers,albeit for 18k INR. -I am 6 ft and i didn't have any of the two issues as pointed out by GTO inthe opening post during my 45 mins TD. A lot has said about the design and interiors,so i won't add anymore. It is for the same reason that i didn't click any pics. We had booked a white Swift VDi two days only after which we were given a TD and i stuck to my decision after the test drive(ZDi is proving very expensive). The waiting period quoted is 4-5 months. But the sales person says we may be able to get in a 1-2 month as we will be buying directly without any finance. PS-According to him,the booking for Dzire has been closed. Also he was trying to sell us the Ritz which is available immediately and has a few offers. Last edited by ashis89 : 27th September 2011 at 23:57. Reason: Forgot to add a point. |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() My wife and I currently own a 2009 Swift-D (my daily ride) and a 2008 City (hers). It's time to let the City go, because (a) I can't stand driving it... it's the most lacklustre experience compared to my old Ikon 1.6, and my current Swift-D and (b) petrol costs. Options are the new Swift-D (my choice) and the Polo diesel (hers). We went and test drove both today. SWIFT TEST DRIVE EXPERIENCE: We were treated courteously at the showroom, and given a TD within 5 minutes. I got behind the wheel, and my impressions from the drive are thus: Likes: 1. LOVE the interiors. They're such a step up from the old Swift you feel like you're driving a completely different car, not just a newer model. 2. The music system that comes with the ZDi...it sounds much better than most stock systems, the switches are well laid out, it looks good, and despite the display not being as good as it can be, it's a good unit. I'm not sure it's available as an option on the VDi, but if it is, it's definitely worth considering. 3. NVH levels: They're much better than they are on the older model. 4. Electric OVRMS... nice. 5. Electric OVRM switch controls... not so nice. 6. The layout of the dials is fantastic. They're just so good to look at. 7. The MID is nice, but I get the feeling that it's more of a gimmick than a really useful prop. In real-world driving, you know what your fuel eco is. You just cant use the MID to corroborate it though because it changes literally every second... and Im talking about BIG swings. In 100m of fairly steady driving, the figures fluctuated between 15 and 27kpl. Dislikes: 1. Styling: Not a fan of the new exterior styling. I'm a MASSIVE fan of hot hatches, and I love the old Swift styling because every part of the car is aesthetically matched to every other part.... much like the Polo. Those cars feel like there's central design theme running through the car, but the new Swift feels like the front and rear halves were designed by two separate people. It looks fabulous from the front, but mismatched from the side and the rear. 2. Ergonomics: Having to move my hand to press the horn... that's just annoying. 3. Driving position: It's just too high. You don't feel like you're part of the car at all, in fact it feels like you're sitting ON something rather than IN something. 4. Engine: Worst of all, was the engine. It just doesn't have the grunt of the old one. My current Swift-D gives me that kick in the back above 2000rpm, this one doesnt. I did manage to give it some stick on an open stretch of road, and was disappointed. Even if the 0-100 figures are the same, the old one makes you FEEL like you're going faster, and that's what counts. 5. No USB. On a car that's 6.5L on road. Are you kidding me???? All in all, I'll probably still buy it. It may not have the youthful appeal of the older model, but it's a more complete car. It's CERTAINLY a more complete car than the Polo-D, which felt so inadequate in comparison after TD'ing the new Swift. NB: I was appalled by the attitude of the VW showroom staff. It seems like if you're there to inquire about a Polo they speak to you with thinly disguised disdain because they're too busy fawning over people inquiring about Jettas and Passats. Epic customer service FAIL. Last edited by ghostrider : 28th September 2011 at 00:23. |
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I wouldnt spend anything above 6.5L on a Suzuki small car for sure (Diesel,CNG,water or whatever) .If I have to spend 7.7 L and still buy a small car I would first look at the Punto 90BHP or maybe even spend more and buy the I20 crdi .At 8 Lakhs ,my choice would anytime be a Jazz from now onwards if its a new car that I have to buy . | |
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| ![]() As always, a great review, GTO. You know what? Last week, I was quoted a waiting period of 14 months of the ZDi. As ridiculous as it can get. But at 7.7L you don't have any other hot hatch with all safety features. at 7.5L, you only get a i20 CRDi Magna. :-(. Sportz costs 8L and Asta costs upwards of 8.6L Quote:
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![]() Thanks for your wishes. I will definitely look into the PDI thread before taking delivery(which is a long time away ![]() Quote:
According to him the temperature was set at 18C(isn't the minimum available temp?? Correct me if i am wrong). Note from the Team-BHP Support Team : Please use "Multi Quote" option for quoting Multiple posts, instead of creating another back-to-back post. Last edited by Technocrat : 28th September 2011 at 02:32. Reason: Please read the note in your post, thanks | ||
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![]() I didn't like the treatment of the hatch either. IMHO the boot lid looks minuscule, in a disproportionate. Tail lights look very nice, though. Also, I saw a V version the other day (White, of course), and the tyres look skinny! One should upgrade for the looks alone, even if not interested in the handling/braking benefits. Can't wrap my head around a near 8L OTR (Bangalore) price for the ZDi ![]() | |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Excellent review GTO. Worth the wait. But I am wondering why you kept the i20 out of the competition? |
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These days on the highways you will invariably see the Swift being driven at high speeds as its great handling lulls you into a false sense of security. Spot on braking is an absolute must for car which are normally driven at high speeds like the swift. ZDi with its price point will now have competition from sedans too like the Nissan Sunny, Verito, Fiesta Classic etc. At a Rs. 8 lakhs OTR people will review more options. Cheers KPS | |
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| ![]() As usual a great review. Thanks to GTO & Stratos! But wondering how the Tata Vista having the same diesel engine has been left out of the comparisons. Good luck to all the new swift buyers. Drive safe & enjoy!! |
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