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Originally Posted by Abhi_Automobile Great Now that the experiment is officially successful, you mind revealing the cost involved in the operation?
Although my primary plan is to go for a new D segment car a few months down the line, I plan to follow this with keen interest as I getting a used Civic and converting to CNG will be my 'back up' plan. I want to be prepared.
Oh, and yes, I think that getting a auto tranny car converting to CNG was a better idea than a manual one. The very fact that gear changes are automatic gives the ECU a better chance to work seamlessly. This was just in theory..Till now, that is! Brilliant and great going |
Thanks a ton!!
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Originally Posted by abeerbagul Congrats on a successful conversion to CNG. For people like me who live their entire lives below 3000 rpm, this is a godsend.
This conversion gives good driveability in city at commute speeds and decent performance upto 100 - 120 kmph on highway, which is what 90% of people need.
What is the capacity of the cylinder, and what is the weight? Is the sequential kit a bolt on addition, or do they drill holes in the engine to insert injectors? |
This is the lighter cylinder with a 75 litre (16 kg) capacity so it weight about 60 kgs when empty and 75 kgs with Gas inside. I did 130 kmph yesterday and didn't even realize it. It's that smooth.
The sequential kit is definitely not an easy install in the civic. One has to drill holes into the manifold to fit the injectors, which is why installation of a CNG kit in the Civic is best left to experts.
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Originally Posted by malgudi Hey Frank,
Congratulations on the successful conversion. I am sure this would put lot of Used Civic's in reach of TBHPian atleast as Mileage is one reason lot of people shy away from Civic. Can you also put up the picture of the tank in the boot to give an idea of the space it occupies and if possible the cost of conversion |
See photos below. They will explain a lot.
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Originally Posted by sourav9385 Un-believable running costs you've mentioned there Frank! Kudos to you for thinking up such an awesome plan in the first place.
With such low running costs, even I'm thinking of getting my newly refurbished Optra 1.6 CNG'ed at the earliest. So I guess the obvious question remains, how much dough does one need to spend outta pocket to get this done? And what might the after effects be? A detailed post about the kit, associated costs and pro's/cons might be extremely beneficial to the petrolhead community here, who don't want to get rid of their petrol driven rides due to the rising petrol costs, but don't want to settle for a Diesel powerplant either. Let us know, if you can please, in a detailed post.
Once again, congrats on the new Civic, and hope to see more updates on running costs and reliability. |
I shall post a longish term review in the next week, after running about 500 km with her.
As for the cost of the kit, I paid 58k all inclusive (with RTO fees too)
The kit can be procured for 53k with a 10 kg cylinder, 56k with a 14 kg cylinder and 58k with a 16 kg cylinder. We opted for the largest and lightest one.
Ok, guys, a small hitch. I started her up at night and drove off. Realized that the light is blinking again and again and the car is driving on petrol. Suddenly the switch lights also went off. I suspected a loose battery connection and went out and checked. It was. And a very obvious one at that. The kit (ECU) was connected to the battery via a nut, directly and I noticed the nut was very loose. Tightened the nut and went and started her up. Sure enough, changeover happened within a few seconds. Problem solved.
Only issue is, that since the ECU was disconnected from the battery for a few hours, the ECU now has amnesia and has forgotten the map that was uploaded onto it 2 days ago. I called up Suraj Auto and they confirmed that the ECU forgets when it is disconnected from the battery so I gotta go back to them reupload my original map. Till then, the car drives well on CNG but not convincingly so, expectedly. I shall go to them and have the map uploaded in the next one or two days. Shall keep you guys updated about this soon.
Till then, here are some pictures of the engine bay. Make sure to zoom into the pics to see the injectors behind the engine, installed into the manifold. Also there are only 3 major parts in the sequential kit, that is the vaporiser (or reducer), the ECU and the injectors. Tried to take photos of all of them, including the CNG filler. Also took photos of the switch inside the car and the boot, with an oversized umbrella placed inside to give you an idea of the space left.