Swift Diesel Ownership Review after 600 KM

DieselFan · 17th September 2007, 15:24

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Originally Posted by vishnugs

Here is the expense breakup

Parts

Element (Diesel Filter) Rs.386

They changed Diesel Filter or did they change Engine oil filter?

karan561 · 17th September 2007, 15:38

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Originally Posted by DieselFan

what is shown on digital display is just that moments mileage and can't get that mileage on a long run of 100 km. You may get close to 75% of that on an average over 100 km.

Well , let me correct you , It also shows the FE in 2 ways ;

1) At the present when you are pressing the accelerator , at that instant.
2) The overall FE , upto which the Distance has been covered from the start i.e. 0 km.

So i was talking about the 2nd case . Though it may not be 100 % accurate .

dileepd11 · 28th September 2007, 00:26

This month i made an effort to drive constantly at 60 KM/H as far as possible and never exceeded that other than an occasional overtaking.

To my surprise it returned an FE of 18.88 for about 600 KMS within Trivandrum city limits. Majority of my driving was from home to office and back.

As far as the AC is concerned i switched it off after the cabin was cooled and until its warm again. I keep it fully on only during rains to avoid condensation on the windshield.

headers · 20th November 2007, 15:40

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If VGT was used, the transition would have been smooth, but its hardly a minus point.
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Boss..I wonder you realise what you are saying.. Engine designs are more complicated than one imagines it to be.. You dont plonk a VGT to have a smooth transition.

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Originally Posted by vishnugs

The clutch is little hard too, I think its the same story with every diesel car.

Not all diesel cars have hard clutches..Maybe there is a problem with you car..the TD swift i drove had a pretty soft clutch!!

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Originally Posted by vishnugs

Fuel Efficiency (5/5)

the vehicle returned 21 KMPL in bangalore city + highway driving conditions which is too impressive. For my road condition and style of driving, Siena would used to return 11 KMPL.

Bull..how did you check the FE?? The only correct method is the tankful to tankful method..

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Originally Posted by vishnugs

Ride & Handling (3/5)

The suspension was quite stiff when compared to my previous car which used to be very smooth. So when it comes to bad roads, you really have to come down to a very slow speed to cross it without causing a big impact to the passengers. But I think all jap cars are like this. There was no compromise in handling when compared to petrol swift because of the engine. But anyways its hardly heavier by 70kg. I think I would upsize the tyres to get better grip but quite concerned if the ride handling would deteriorate if I go for tyres with lesser profile.

I have taken some pics of my new car and a video (with sound) to show you how silent the engine is outside & inside the bonnet.

Vishnu

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Yeah MUL suspension is BAD..Not all Jap cars are like that..The Mitsubishis have a good suspension setup..even in stock form..

Anyways, congrats on your new car..

tez · 21st November 2007, 11:20

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Originally Posted by weejai

Now i know the power window problem is with many maruti vehicles and not only with my Versa...the other day I went out with my family for shopping and this left power window would not close!!! I obviously could not have left the vehicle in bangalore with its window open and almost decided to go back home...and as unexpectedly it had stopped working, more unexpectedly it worked and so far it is working till one day again it will not work!!!

BTW, others please check if you have not pressed the 'lock' button unknowingly !!!

so does it make sense going for manual windows..

. They dont have too much chances to go bad

Thad E Ginathom · 21st November 2007, 14:57

This is not going bad... it is pressing the wrong buttons.

Yes... I had this problem for a couple of days when I first had the car. Just as I went through a few days of opening the rear windows, and cursing the front windows for not working.

They call it Operator Error --- we can't blame the car!

All-round electric windows are great for giving good control of ventilation.

They are also great when you need to stop and ask directions of someone on the pavement --- on the left side of the car.

Just one thing: auto-down (single touch) is great, but auto up, to my way of thinking, would have been more useful. Both would be just perfect.

There's the button that controls the central locking: that can confuse too. But it can also give a sense of security.

abhilash_iv · 21st November 2007, 17:26

You are right. Looking forward on the road and operating the switches, in most cases causes operator error. Does it happen in all cars? Or are the positioning of the switches also responsible for this?

kuttapan · 21st November 2007, 20:15

Autocop has models which has auto-up as well(I saw one in WAGON R, not sure if there is one for swift as well), but Maruti advises against it. Of course, their OE partner in NIPPON.

DieselFan · 21st November 2007, 21:07

Windows going up automatically is hazard prone. if someones hand or worse face gets in between the glass and the window opening either the stepper motor will breakdown or the hand will be chopped off.

BUSA · 21st November 2007, 21:15

The motor will overheat before the hand. They do have safety down though.

abhilash_iv · 22nd November 2007, 08:35

Ok, since we are on this topic, I have a doubt.
What is the effect, if operating the switch further after complete rolling up or down of the windows?
I have a bad habit of pulling up all the four switches once in a while, if a feel like any of the windows are down comes to mind. This is done while driving, to avoid turning back. Will it create any adverse effect on the motor?

BUSA · 22nd November 2007, 10:04

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Will it create any adverse effect on the motor?

I dont think it should, i tend to do the same at times just to make sure all windows are closed.

vishnugs · 23rd February 2008, 15:35

Hello headers !

Sorry for the delayed reply...

<<<<Boss..I wonder you realise what you are saying.. Engine designs are more complicated than one imagines it to be.. You dont plonk a VGT to have a smooth transition.>>>>

I "understand" and appreciate engine technology. VGT will make turbo transition smooth, if you disagree with me, then probably you are making some wrong imaginations about it.

<<<<Not all diesel cars have hard clutches..Maybe there is a problem with you car..the TD swift i drove had a pretty soft clutch!!>>>>

I have a Swift diesel that has clocked 20000 KM and lot of my friends have petrol swift. I can vouch for sure that swift diesel has little stiffer clutch. Technically, this is a booster assisted clutch, but its designed to take higher torque.

<<<<Bull..how did you check the FE?? The only correct method is the tankful to tankful method..>>>

Well I always do tanful tests.

<<<Yeah MUL suspension is BAD..Not all Jap cars are like that..The Mitsubishis have a good suspension setup..even in stock form..>>>>

I agree.

Vishnu

vishnugs · 23rd February 2008, 15:45

Guys, have crossed the 20000 KM mark on my Swift diesel !!!

In my recent trip from Bangalore to Chennai, I was able to clock 182 KMPH, I think it should have been one of the highest with this motor.

Infact, it accelerated pretty fast till 175, from then on, climbing up to 182 was slow, but I took my foot off from the gas pedal at 182 because of a vehicle on my way, otherwise I think it would have clocked one or two more...

Vishnu

Eddy · 23rd February 2008, 16:38

182. How did you manage to look at the speedo at such high speeds ?

Done with the 4 servicing ?

28th September 2007, 00:26	#183
dileepd11 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 26 Thanked: 0 Times	This month i made an effort to drive constantly at 60 KM/H as far as possible and never exceeded that other than an occasional overtaking. To my surprise it returned an FE of 18.88 for about 600 KMS within Trivandrum city limits. Majority of my driving was from home to office and back. As far as the AC is concerned i switched it off after the cabin was cooled and until its warm again. I keep it fully on only during rains to avoid condensation on the windshield.
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21st November 2007, 14:57	#186
Thad E Ginathom Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 11,458 Thanked: 30,104 Times	This is not going bad... it is pressing the wrong buttons. Yes... I had this problem for a couple of days when I first had the car. Just as I went through a few days of opening the rear windows, and cursing the front windows for not working. They call it Operator Error --- we can't blame the car! All-round electric windows are great for giving good control of ventilation. They are also great when you need to stop and ask directions of someone on the pavement --- on the left side of the car. Just one thing: auto-down (single touch) is great, but auto up, to my way of thinking, would have been more useful. Both would be just perfect. There's the button that controls the central locking: that can confuse too. But it can also give a sense of security.
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21st November 2007, 17:26	#187
abhilash_iv BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kochi Posts: 222 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	You are right. Looking forward on the road and operating the switches, in most cases causes operator error. Does it happen in all cars? Or are the positioning of the switches also responsible for this?
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21st November 2007, 20:15	#188
kuttapan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,155 Thanked: 27 Times View My Garage	Autocop has models which has auto-up as well(I saw one in WAGON R, not sure if there is one for swift as well), but Maruti advises against it. Of course, their OE partner in NIPPON.
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21st November 2007, 21:07	#189
DieselFan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,584 Thanked: 260 Times	Windows going up automatically is hazard prone. if someones hand or worse face gets in between the glass and the window opening either the stepper motor will breakdown or the hand will be chopped off.
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21st November 2007, 21:15	#190
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,127 Thanked: 23 Times View My Garage	The motor will overheat before the hand. They do have safety down though.
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22nd November 2007, 08:35	#191
abhilash_iv BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kochi Posts: 222 Thanked: 19 Times View My Garage	Ok, since we are on this topic, I have a doubt. What is the effect, if operating the switch further after complete rolling up or down of the windows? I have a bad habit of pulling up all the four switches once in a while, if a feel like any of the windows are down comes to mind. This is done while driving, to avoid turning back. Will it create any adverse effect on the motor?
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23rd February 2008, 15:35	#193
vishnugs BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 173 Thanked: 59 Times	Late reply... Hello headers ! Sorry for the delayed reply... <<<<Boss..I wonder you realise what you are saying.. Engine designs are more complicated than one imagines it to be.. You dont plonk a VGT to have a smooth transition.>>>> I "understand" and appreciate engine technology. VGT will make turbo transition smooth, if you disagree with me, then probably you are making some wrong imaginations about it. <<<<Not all diesel cars have hard clutches..Maybe there is a problem with you car..the TD swift i drove had a pretty soft clutch!!>>>> I have a Swift diesel that has clocked 20000 KM and lot of my friends have petrol swift. I can vouch for sure that swift diesel has little stiffer clutch. Technically, this is a booster assisted clutch, but its designed to take higher torque. <<<<Bull..how did you check the FE?? The only correct method is the tankful to tankful method..>>> Well I always do tanful tests. <<<Yeah MUL suspension is BAD..Not all Jap cars are like that..The Mitsubishis have a good suspension setup..even in stock form..>>>> I agree. Vishnu
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23rd February 2008, 15:45	#194
vishnugs BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 173 Thanked: 59 Times	Swift Diesel 20000 KM Guys, have crossed the 20000 KM mark on my Swift diesel !!! In my recent trip from Bangalore to Chennai, I was able to clock 182 KMPH, I think it should have been one of the highest with this motor. Infact, it accelerated pretty fast till 175, from then on, climbing up to 182 was slow, but I took my foot off from the gas pedal at 182 because of a vehicle on my way, otherwise I think it would have clocked one or two more... Vishnu
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23rd February 2008, 16:38	#195
Eddy Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 9,573 Thanked: 14,577 Times	182. How did you manage to look at the speedo at such high speeds ? Done with the 4 servicing ?
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