re: Review: 1st-gen Ford Figo (2010) Quote:
Originally Posted by amit1234singla 1. As Anil said, Figo Diesel manual does not recommend any additives. System G is recommended specifically for petrol though.
2. Tata has a tie-up with BP for co branded versions of system D with both Tata and BP logos etc. Still my Manza's manual says no additives to Diesel. It's recommended for other tata cars (non crdi one's). |
Well the workshop guys recommended it - I haven't checked the manual though I myself don't remember any recommendation to use or not use any additive (I do remember it says biodiesel blend is allowed - don't remember the percentage) Quote:
Originally Posted by amit1234singla I am not sure about the recommendation of other CRDI OEM's, but mostly as I have read, it's a no. The thread below is the right place to look for technical answers and discuss this further. I am not fully aware of technical reason for this but can think of two logical reasons:
1. Fuel injectors getting clogged instead of getting cleaned. I think the injectors have very fine holes in case of CRDi and pressure is very high (>=1350bar?)
2. Diesel filter is sophisticated (hence expensive) and may filter out the additives and get choked. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...es-thread.html
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I don't think fiters can get rid of additives - most of them dissolve into diesel, the particle size that results is so small if filters are filtering that then filter will have to be HUGE to allow any diesel flow. But I'm not sure - this can happen.
Also barring gumming, the injector is unlikely to be clogged due to diesel additives - the amount is too small and injectors' clearance is more than that of fuel filters, so fuel filters will most likely stop the stuff in the first place, and also the CR pressure is so huge (peak pressure on Figo's system can be as high as 2000bar, even during idlins it is several hundred bars, compared to less than 20bar in the cylinder) any obstructing stuff should be forced out.
The link you have sent has a lot of posts that say "this will happen" "that will happen" without specifying exactly how. Given the DPF thing above, I think we can agree that you can not be sure of pure beliefs unless there is a credible explanation for them. Quote:
Originally Posted by dhanushs The main problem of using premium diesel, or fuel additives constantly on the long run is, Fuel Pump getting clogged. Most of the diesels I know which have been running on premium fuel constantly, have had this issue. |
That may be possible - but the question is how?
BTW related question - how is the fuel pump lubricated? I mean the injectors have (relatively) tiny moving elements, and the precision is excellent and motion range small (plunger moves only about 0.05mm) - so very expensive materials can be used to make moving parts such that friction and wear/tear may not be a problem.
But in Fuel Pump the range of motion is large - and forces generated are huge. More likely than not you do need lubrication. How does the fuel pump get its lubrication then?
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are the "premium diesel" mixtures at least as good as regular diesel? Because if they are not, then they can damage the fuel pump, additive or no additive.
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