[sunsivj]

I am not sure what value add my below information can make.
While we had a Tata Sumo way back and which was purchased in 1997, the front tyres used to worn out very quickly. The stock tyres were not of Radial type and we did change to Radial assuming that would help give longer life. Though it did not and then Tata realised this as a common problem in many other cars and fixed it with no extra cost. Apologies I do not know what was the RCA at that time.

[arjab]

Originally Posted by starter

We have a Kia Seltos top-end diesel automatic in our extended family. It was purchased in Feb/March 2020.
The vehicle has been meticulously maintained and has completed 1K, 5K & 10K services.
The car has currently done about 17K kms and the front tyres are completely worn out.

The picture is an exact replica of our 1st gen Tata Sumo, way back in 1995-96, which used to chew through a set of front tyres every 10,000kms.
TML finally did a retrofitment as there was a build defect w.r.t. the front lower wishbone mountings which caused excess toe-in causing premature wearout.

Don't know whether this is the case with this car but the sheer amount of wear does point to a suspension geometry issue. Please have that checked.

[amitkuch]

Originally Posted by a4anurag

Also this kind of wear can't be an overnight affair and 17,000 kms is a very less period for tyres to bald in such fashion. Kia has to answer the owner whatever be the reason it is.
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Sir, I got my punto tyre nearly bald within 200 km trip with bad alignment. I would say 17000 km is to much for bad alignment.
Alignment need much more attention than regular service.

[starter]

Update.
My cousin took it to the service centre yesterday. They inspected the tyre wear and checked for alignment issues. The alignment was off.
The service center attributed it to be a driver error. If we still would like to raise an issue, we would have to leave the car with them.
Since that was not feasible, he replaced the tyres with bridgestone at an independent tyre store and had the alignment/balancing done as well.
Thanks everyone for your feedback/suggestions.
Cheers

[Mr.Boss]

Originally Posted by starter

The alignment was off.
The service center attributed it to be a driver error.

Originally Posted by Mr.Boss

If alignment is within the spec, you (or the customer) are safe. Otherwise obviously the dealership will blame the customer with generic excuses'

As expected
BTW changed all 4 tyres to Bridgestone or only the front pair?

[starter]

Originally Posted by Mr.Boss

As expected
BTW changed all 4 tyres to Bridgestone or only the front pair?

He's changed only the front 2 and left the rear 2 as it is.
The rear tyres had quite some tread left in them.

[a4anurag]

Originally Posted by starter

Update.
My cousin took it to the service centre yesterday. They inspected the tyre wear and checked for alignment issues. The alignment was off.
The service center attributed it to be a driver error.

The ASC themselves say "if alignment etc not performed at the ASC as per the schedule, warranty shall be void!". As per the service records you must be having proof of the same, right? Since the car has done just 17,000 kms and everything is done as per records, how can they wash their hands off by saying driver error unless the owner drives the car as if he is participating in a Rally everyday with the Seltos.

I wish you guys get to escalate it and try and find some solution to this issue.

Originally Posted by starter

He's changed only the front 2 and left the rear 2 as it is

Is the wear higher on the front left tyre versus the right side one?

[ashis89]

Originally Posted by a4anurag

The ASC themselves say "if alignment etc not performed at the ASC as per the schedule, warranty shall be void!". As per the service records you must be having proof of the same, right? Since the car has done just 17,000 kms and everything is done as per records, how can they wash their hands off by saying driver error unless the owner drives the car as if he is participating in a Rally everyday with the Seltos.

A good alignment can also go bad IF driven in bad roads, into potholes or even when a puncture is repaired. Any of the above COULD have happened in the past 7,000 kms after the last service. The service center won't own it up unless the alignment issue is reported right after the service. In fact, alignment is one of the parameters the service center guys check when they do a final test drive after the service is complete.

As it has been mentioned earlier, driving few hundred KMs with a bad alignment is enough to eat up the tyres. From my experience, a brand new set of tyres were completely bald on our first M800 within 3,000 kms, all due to bad alignment after fitting of the new tyres and my father's ignorance about alignment back in those days.

[SideView]

Guys, it is also possible that after alignment was done properly, the driver might have hit pothole which could have change the alignment. This then would have eaten up the tyres.


I would say the onus is on the driver to check the tyres once in a while.

Was re-alignment done anywhere between 10k to 17k interval?.

I am sure no ASC will own up to alignment mistakes 7k after it was done. Driver has to report it within 1k or max 2k if he sees uneven tyre wear.


Anyways nothing more can be done as tyres have been changed now.


Good on starter for highlighting this, other Seltos owner can keep an eye out for such issue.

[Emvi]

Under inflated tyres may also lead to abnormal tyre wear.
Lower than recommended tyre pressure = higher rolling friction = tyre wear.

I personally feel tyre alignment every 5000 Kms is apt, especially if the roads are not good. If the roads are terrible, even a 3000 Kms interval between tyre alignment is better.

Tyres from international brands like Yokohama,Michelin and Pirelli are no doubt good, but when it comes to typical Indian conditions, they do wear out faster because of their softer compound. They offer very good road grip and drivability but tyre life is sacrificed mostly.

[Bibendum90949]

Originally Posted by Emvi

Tyres from international brands like Yokohama,Michelin and Pirelli are no doubt good, but when it comes to typical Indian conditions, they do wear out faster because of their softer compound.

In theory this may be true. But in reality my experience is different. I consistently get an average of 60-70k kms life for the Michelins(known for soft compound)which I feel is pretty good. This is much before the tread wear indicator. Guess the technology used in making them does play a role in the longevity.

[Emvi]

Originally Posted by Bibendum90949

In theory this may be true. But in reality my experience is different. I consistently get an average of 60-70k kms life for the Michelins(known for soft compound)which I feel is pretty good. This is much before the tread wear indicator. Guess the technology used in making them does play a role in the longevity.

60-70k Kms life is not just good,it's wonderful actually. Speaking from my own experience and my friends' in this region, these tyres barely last 30-35k Kms. Maybe the roads here are the culprit. Broken tarmac and mud roads are a common sight here.

[SideView]

Originally Posted by Emvi

Under inflated tyres may also lead to abnormal tyre wear.


Tyres from international brands like Yokohama,Michelin and Pirelli are no doubt good, but when it comes to typical Indian conditions, they do wear out faster because of their softer compound. They offer very good road grip and drivability but tyre life is sacrificed mostly.

Originally Posted by Bibendum90949

In theory this may be true. But in reality my experience is different. I consistently get an average of 60-70k kms life for the Michelins(known for soft compound)which I feel is pretty good. This is much before the tread wear indicator. Guess the technology used in making them does play a role in the longevity.

It not the brand, but major factor is the way we abuse the tyre (like hard braking) that plays a big role in treadwear. (Other than the obvious alignment issues)

[Torq]

Originally Posted by Sebring

First of all, are these your tyres? Tyre cant wear out so much in just 17,000 Kms, that too Goodyears (Known for its hard wearing capability).

Little late to the party, but have to mention here. One of the members of Tiago group reported complete wear of stock Bridgestone tyres at around 17k kms. Staying and driven in Mumbai majority of the time. Although he did mention a couple of wheel spins done.

I have driven on a lot of bad roads and rural highways and yet mine lasted for 50k kms

[a4anurag]

Originally Posted by Emvi

Tyres from international brands like Yokohama, Michelin and Pirelli are no doubt good, but when it comes to typical Indian conditions, they do wear out faster because of their softer compound. They offer very good road grip and drivability but tyre life is sacrificed mostly.

I agree but if due care is taken even these international branded tyres will yield good life. Search the ownership reviews, you can see 60K+ km life from Michelin tyres.

When I had the XM2 on my Swift ZDi, I had got 60K kms life before selling the car. It had another 20-25K kms life left in them.