Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders?

determinus · 3rd January 2011, 21:12

Thanks folks, I have decided to wait for the ER60. Price quoted in Pune was 4100 per tyre. I heard that the prices are going up from this week though!

dodge3p · 9th January 2011, 21:42

Folks, This weekend I changed to Michelin Energy XM1+ for my 2005 Wagon R(155/65/R13). Total cost came to Rs. 12000 including WA, WB and air valves.

3 OEM JK tyres and 4 tubes were sold for Rs. 300. 1 tyre, I had kept as spare and 1 tyre was a total loss due to a rupture.

The tyres were changed at Global Tyres, Plarivattom, Cochin. The whole experience were good and I am giving a thumbs up to them

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Mpower · 9th January 2011, 22:06

If its 13" then it cannot be the +, its probably the XM1.

dodge3p · 9th January 2011, 23:01

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Originally Posted by Mpower

If its 13" then it cannot be the +, its probably the XM1.

They do have XM1+ in their inventory of R13.

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Mpower · 9th January 2011, 23:26

Whats written on the sidewall of the tire?

para_7k · 10th January 2011, 06:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpower

If its 13" then it cannot be the +, its probably the XM1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpower

Whats written on the sidewall of the tire?

XM1+ does come in 13". It reads Michelin XM1+ instead of Michelin Energy XM1+

175/70 R13 on my i10

shubhodeepdas@g · 10th January 2011, 12:27

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Originally Posted by shubhodeepdas@g

There is a dark side to this. The Tyres feel a little squishy at speeds above 140 as compared to the harder GT3, but it could be a tyre pressure or alignment issue as well. Have not checked as yet.

Scratch that as well.
Got my wheels realigned and balanced at Tyre Empire, my regular guy and things are smooth thereafter. No pulls to any side, no squishy behavior at all. It was a problem with uneven pressure and balancing.

Anyone looking for 195/60R15 Turanza in Bangalore, it seems Tyre Empire (whitefield) has stock. Saw a Toyota get the same size while I was there.

Mpower · 10th January 2011, 16:23

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Originally Posted by para_7k

XM1+ does come in 13". It reads Michelin XM1+ instead of Michelin Energy XM1+

175/70 R13 on my i10

Interesting. Wonder what the difference is?
According to this chart, it doesn't MICHELIN

BTW, what alloys are those?

nitrous · 10th January 2011, 16:28

XM1+ has more tread depth compared to the XM1 which had a complaint of low tread life.

Mpower · 10th January 2011, 21:23

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Originally Posted by nitrous

XM1+ has more tread depth compared to the XM1 which had a complaint of low tread life.

No I meant + with energy and + w/o energy. In Michelin-speak, Energy stands for hi-sliica compound that gives better FE.

Maybe Nikhil can elaborate?

nitrous · 10th January 2011, 21:36

I think they're one and the same.
XM has always been an energy tyre.

para_7k · 11th January 2011, 10:16

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Originally Posted by Mpower

Interesting. Wonder what the difference is?
According to this chart, it doesn't MICHELIN

BTW, what alloys are those?

I'm not sure of what the difference is. I'm just going by the print on the sidewall.

These are Hyundai OE Alloys. Not sure of the manufacturer.

Yes, Michelin claims XM1+ last 25% more (probably compared to XM1)

Nikhilb2008 · 13th January 2011, 16:30

Well, even I was confused for a while! I never noticed the difference until last year!

12" and 13" Michelin XM1+ tyres do NOT have the Energy name. That is because they dont have the silica compound which they use in the other 14" and 15" tyres.

So, the tread pattern is identical but the silica content is lesser in 12" and 13".

para_7k · 13th January 2011, 17:04

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Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

Well, even I was confused for a while! I never noticed the difference until last year!

12" and 13" Michelin XM1+ tyres do NOT have the Energy name. That is because they dont have the silica compound which they use in the other 14" and 15" tyres.

So, the tread pattern is identical but the silica content is lesser in 12" and 13".

Nikhil, My XM1+s have done around 16k kms and of late they seem to become very noisy and the ride quality has gone down a bit.

Deepak of tyrestore suggested me to bring down the Psi to reduce the noise and improve ride.

That bettered the ride but the tyre is still noisy.

Are these tyres known to become too hard with age ?

dhanushs · 13th January 2011, 19:42

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Originally Posted by para_7k

Deepak of tyrestore suggested me to bring down the Psi to reduce the noise and improve ride.

Bringing down the PSI will increase ride comfort, but will also increase tyre noise.
Reason: More flexing of tyre walls, and slightly more contact patch.

3rd January 2011, 21:12	#361
determinus BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Pune Posts: 277 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? Thanks folks, I have decided to wait for the ER60. Price quoted in Pune was 4100 per tyre. I heard that the prices are going up from this week though!
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dodge3p BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TVM Posts: 56 Thanked: 53 Times	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? Folks, This weekend I changed to Michelin Energy XM1+ for my 2005 Wagon R(155/65/R13). Total cost came to Rs. 12000 including WA, WB and air valves. 3 OEM JK tyres and 4 tubes were sold for Rs. 300. 1 tyre, I had kept as spare and 1 tyre was a total loss due to a rupture. The tyres were changed at Global Tyres, Plarivattom, Cochin. The whole experience were good and I am giving a thumbs up to them .
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9th January 2011, 22:06	#363
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,731 Times View My Garage	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? If its 13" then it cannot be the +, its probably the XM1.
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Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,731 Times View My Garage	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? Whats written on the sidewall of the tire?
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nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 326 Times View My Garage	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? XM1+ has more tread depth compared to the XM1 which had a complaint of low tread life.
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nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 326 Times View My Garage	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? I think they're one and the same. XM has always been an energy tyre.
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13th January 2011, 16:30	#373
Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,140 Times	Re: Michelin Energy XM1+ & Bridgestone Turanza ER-60....The Best Allrounders? Well, even I was confused for a while! I never noticed the difference until last year! 12" and 13" Michelin XM1+ tyres do NOT have the Energy name. That is because they dont have the silica compound which they use in the other 14" and 15" tyres. So, the tread pattern is identical but the silica content is lesser in 12" and 13".
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