[Buffetfan]

Originally Posted by MaverikMahesh

Finally, i have changed the shoes of my Innova. Went in for Yokohama C drive 225/60/R15. The best price i could get was 7000 / tyre. Lets see how they fare. I am going on a weekend trip to Ooty (from Bangalore)

My tires required a bit of "run in". The grip improved drastically after the first 1000 kms. Hope your's will not require that. Also, be very careful about tire pressure - anything about 31-32 PSI will give a bumpy ride.

I am sure that you will like the grip, ride comfort, silence and steering feel that they offer. Be careful about soft sidewalls - especially while traversing sharp stone edges when you cut back from kerb on a broken road...

[MaverikMahesh]

Originally Posted by Buffetfan

My tires required a bit of "run in". The grip improved drastically after the first 1000 kms. Hope your's will not require that. Also, be very careful about tire pressure - anything about 31-32 PSI will give a bumpy ride.

I am sure that you will like the grip, ride comfort, silence and steering feel that they offer. Be careful about soft sidewalls - especially while traversing sharp stone edges when you cut back from kerb on a broken road...

THanks for the suggestions Buffetfan. Will take care. I will be driving with the car full - 8 members so do you recommend that the pressure be 31 or 32 psi?

[shuvc]

Tried out a bit of high speed braking with the 225/60/15s on my Civic just after crossing 1k kms.

With the 205/60/15 V550s ABS used to kick in earlier. With the fatter C-drives, ABS did not, but there was tyre squeal. The V550s rarely had tyre squeal prior to ABS engaging.

[Buffetfan]

Originally Posted by MaverikMahesh

THanks for the suggestions Buffetfan. Will take care. I will be driving with the car full - 8 members so do you recommend that the pressure be 31 or 32 psi?

32 should be fine in that case. I keep 31 but most of the time it is only me in the car

[Buffetfan]

Originally Posted by shuvc

Tried out a bit of high speed braking with the 225/60/15s on my Civic just after crossing 1k kms.

With the 205/60/15 V550s ABS used to kick in earlier. With the fatter C-drives, ABS did not, but there was tyre squeal. The V550s rarely had tyre squeal prior to ABS engaging.

I am not surprised as more grip would generally mean more noise at the limit as there is disengagement with higher force. At the same time, do you find them noisy on regular highway runs - a bit more than V550 should be expected because of the upsize though

[shuvc]

Originally Posted by Buffetfan

I am not surprised as more grip would generally mean more noise at the limit as there is disengagement with higher force. At the same time, do you find them noisy on regular highway runs - a bit more than V550 should be expected because of the upsize though

As of now, they are definitely more quiet than the V 550s ! I suspect it could partly be an effect of the much better ride due to the high sidewall. This leads to lesser overall noise.

[revvhed]

Hi Friends,

I'm doing some research for a friend of mine who owns a Baleno Altura, currently fitted with Bridgestone Potenza G IIIs. These tyres are now worn out and he needs a new set.

I think i've narrowed down the choices to either Michelin Energy XM2s or Yokohama C Drives.

The usage pattern is 90% city running and 10% highway usage. The requirements are Comfort, Durability & Grip in that order.

I was originally inclined towards the C Drives as i have expreienced them in another friend's car and the ride comfort, silence and grip is just phenomenal. However, i have read on various threads that the C Drives have soft sidewalls and therein lies my concern. You see, my friend is a relatively new driver and hence is a little unmindful of potholes and bad road conditions, so i worry that the C Drives may get damaged easily.

Hence, i started thinking of the XM2s as they are supposed to have stronger sidewalls. However, I have experienced the XM1+ on my girlfriend's Palio, and while they're very smooth and silent on smooth roads they don't quite have the ride comfort of the C Drives.

My questions are ;
1.) Are the XM2s softer than the XM1+ ?
2.) Considering the above scenario would you suggest the XM2s or the C Drives ?

Experts, (Nikhil in particular ) please help.

Please also feel free to suggest a third Brand if you think that's more suitable.

Thanks.

[CliffHanger]

One of my C-drives(195/60/R15) got a side wall cut recently. In the process of replacing it and I have been quoted Rs.5200/- in Bangalore.

Is the price right?

[balenopower]

My 2 month old Honda City has done about 1800 km on the odo and after using the 195 section ES 100's on my previous Baleno, im really not liking the feel from the 175 section MRF's on the City. Forget corners, even tracking straight at speeds above 140 km/h is a problem with the car requiring constant inputs which was not the case with the Yoko's. Now what should i replace the MRF's with? Im sticking to 195/60 R15's and these are my options.

Yokohama ES100 (not too inclined on these as i want to try something different)
Yokohama C-Drives
Bridgestone Potenza GIII
Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3
Pirelli P6

My car is used very less for commutes and more for leisure/fun and as a result im looking at a 60:40 ratio whn it comes to Performance and life of the tyre.

[CliffHanger]

Originally Posted by balenopower

Yokohama ES100 (not too inclined on these as i want to try something different)
Yokohama C-Drives
Bridgestone Potenza GIII
Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3
Pirelli P6

Hey, I'm all for the C-drives. I haven't used the other tyres, but my experience with the C-drives has been impeccable.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Yokohama/C-Drive.htm

The above link should give you an idea of what you can expect.

[goingout]

Originally Posted by akshay1234

The C Drives will be perfect for what you mentioned above. They are silent, comfortable and have acceptable grip.

Been using 225 C-drives on my Accord for a few months now. Really impressed with the grip and low noise. I can launch much better without wheelspin and you really have to try hard to make the ABS kick in.

Cost was just over Rs. 30k for a set of 4.

Thanks for the suggestions!

[scuderiamania]

Originally Posted by shuvc

Tried out a bit of high speed braking with the 225/60/15s on my Civic just after crossing 1k kms.

With the 205/60/15 V550s ABS used to kick in earlier. With the fatter C-drives, ABS did not, but there was tyre squeal. The V550s rarely had tyre squeal prior to ABS engaging.

Originally Posted by balenopower

My 2 month old Honda City has done about 1800 km on the odo and after using the 195 section ES 100's on my previous Baleno, im really not liking the feel from the 175 section MRF's on the City. Forget corners, even tracking straight at speeds above 140 km/h is a problem with the car requiring constant inputs which was not the case with the Yoko's. Now what should i replace the MRF's with? Im sticking to 195/60 R15's and these are my options.

Yokohama ES100 (not too inclined on these as i want to try something different)
Yokohama C-Drives
Bridgestone Potenza GIII
Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3
Pirelli P6

My car is used very less for commutes and more for leisure/fun and as a result im looking at a 60:40 ratio whn it comes to Performance and life of the tyre.

I have used both ES-100 [in our 4yr old swift] and C-drive [in our 2012 oct H city]. Although the ride comfort and tyre noise is significantly less compared to the ES-100, you will definitely miss the grip ES-100 has to offer. Since you mention that this car will mostly be used for leisure, I suggest you try MRF ZLO. Nikhilb2008 had suggested us to go for them over the C-drives but my father had become somewhat loyal to yokohama after the ES-100 experience. I wont say we repent our decision to go for the C-drive, but I get a feeling MRF ZLO would have provided better balance of comfort and performance.
As for the ZVTV, they are rubbish. City comes with 2 tyres, ZVTV or XM1. We tried had to get the XM1, but couldn't do so. So we changed the tyres to 195/60R15 even before the car got home.

EDIT: and Shuvc is right, the tyre does suffer from a bit of tyre squeal under hard braking. My father has noticed this on a couple of occasions.

[rudrah]

Originally Posted by revvhed

The usage pattern is 90% city running and 10% highway usage. The requirements are Comfort, Durability & Grip in that order.

I was originally inclined towards the C Drives as i have expreienced them in another friend's car and the ride comfort, silence and grip is just phenomenal. However, i have read on various threads that the C Drives have soft sidewalls and therein lies my concern. You see, my friend is a relatively new driver and hence is a little unmindful of potholes and bad road conditions, so i worry that the C Drives may get damaged easily.

Hence, i started thinking of the XM2s as they are supposed to have stronger sidewalls. However, I have experienced the XM1+ on my girlfriend's Palio, and while they're very smooth and silent on smooth roads they don't quite have the ride comfort of the C Drives.

My questions are ;
1.) Are the XM2s softer than the XM1+ ?
2.) Considering the above scenario would you suggest the XM2s or the C Drives ?

Experts, (Nikhil in particular ) please help.

Please also feel free to suggest a third Brand if you think that's more suitable.

Thanks.

Since your requirement drives 90% on city roads and 10% on highways, there is not much a bargain over XM2 or Yoko C Drives. I personally drive my Palio with the Yoko C Drives and vouch for the fantastic grip it offers on Wet roads which was my main requirement. Few times i've driven in dead roads which don't exists and it has sustained very well though I was worrying all the time due to its softer compound rubber it offers.

As the above member suggested the new MRF ZLO has got good reviews which are near to incomparo to the Mich or Yokos. So you can check them out too which may be little cheaper too.

[Buffetfan]

Originally Posted by revvhed

Hi Friends,

I'm doing some research for a friend of mine who owns a Baleno Altura, currently fitted with Bridgestone Potenza G IIIs. These tyres are now worn out and he needs a new set.

I think i've narrowed down the choices to either Michelin Energy XM2s or Yokohama C Drives.

The usage pattern is 90% city running and 10% highway usage. The requirements are Comfort, Durability & Grip in that order.

I was originally inclined towards the C Drives as i have experienced them in another friend's car and the ride comfort, silence and grip is just phenomenal. However, i have read on various threads that the C Drives have soft sidewalls and therein lies my concern. You see, my friend is a relatively new driver and hence is a little unmindful of potholes and bad road conditions, so i worry that the C Drives may get damaged easily.

Hence, i started thinking of the XM2s as they are supposed to have stronger sidewalls. However, I have experienced the XM1+ on my girlfriend's Palio, and while they're very smooth and silent on smooth roads they don't quite have the ride comfort of the C Drives.

My questions are ;
1.) Are the XM2s softer than the XM1+ ?
2.) Considering the above scenario would you suggest the XM2s or the C Drives ?

Experts, (Nikhil in particular ) please help.

Please also feel free to suggest a third Brand if you think that's more suitable.

Thanks.

There are two issues here. One, the Baleno as a car has a BETTER ride comfort than the Palio so the C.Drive versus Michelin comparison cannot be done in isolation. However, from my experience in XM1 versus the C.Drive on the Baleno, it is correct that the C.Drives have better grip and cushier ride.

For your friend, I would suggest the Bridgestone Turanza that have one of better sidewall durability in the business - this will also ensure peace of mind for you as well . For me though, I am onto my third set of C.Drives and will change over to them again in my next change. They have lasted all the rural trips and broken roads I have thrown at them...and god knows I have done quite a few. I love this tire absolutely. Please note that normal potholes will NOT damage the C.Drive...it is not so weak. But unmindful driving on really sharp edges or on rocks can be a problem.

[bharatbs]

I had purchased the C drives R15 195/60 for my Honda City in February 2013.

Today I noticed the dreaded tyre wall bulge on the driver side tyre.

I have driven the car only in the city for the last 2 months and as far as I remember I have not had any high speed impact with pot holes.

Will this be covered under warranty?