[rudrah]

Originally Posted by Buffetfan

I am happy with the ride quality, cornering grip (better than michelins) and extreme silence. The ride is a bit cushy and I will try with 32 PSI instead of 30. But it is my wife's car and she prefers a cushy ride.

Net net, I am happy and the tires are performing as expected.

I felt the same, the ride is a lot cushy compare to the stock GY GPS2 and somewhere i felt like boat like swaying right to left when it went into some undulated roads.

I think i feel a bit of body roll over high speed cornering especially after 185/65 upgrade.

Or may be i'm looking too much deeper to understand the ride feedback

[rbp]

Hello BHPians,

I drive an i20 CRDI which runs on stock apollo accelere tyres 185/65 R14, the tyres are pretty good, they have run 22K, though a little noisy on broken roads and horribly bad on concrete surface. On a recent trip to Chikmagalur I hit a pothole at high speeds and there is a side bulge, I replaced the wheel with the spare one and continued, Can I use this as a spare tyre with a tube put into it for safety? how strong are the side walls of the C-Drive, since most here say it has a cushy ride, I believe they might be a little soft. The i20's steering is already very very light, you can turn the steering with just a finger it is that light, would you guys recommend C-Drives in my case? I would prefer a slightly heavy steering, any other tyres that would suit my car?

Thanks

[Nikhilb2008]

The Aceleres are also good tyres. I suggest you just get one new Acelere to replace the damaged tyre.

[Buffetfan]

Originally Posted by rudrah

I felt the same, the ride is a lot cushy compare to the stock GY GPS2 and somewhere i felt like boat like swaying right to left when it went into some undulated roads.

I think i feel a bit of body roll over high speed cornering especially after 185/65 upgrade.

Or may be i'm looking too much deeper to understand the ride feedback

Could be because your centre of gravity has shifted up a bit by about 7mm. I suggest that you increase the tire pressure by 2PSI and check. Also, the C.Drives corner a lot better than most tires. In fact if you see carefully, the groove depth on the outside blocks of the tire is lower than the inside of the tire to provide the outside grooves extra strength against flex during cornering.

see some feedback on the yokohama site http://www.yokohama.com.au/ourtyres/...aspx?tyreid=66

[rudrah]

Originally Posted by Buffetfan

Could be because your centre of gravity has shifted up a bit by about 7mm. I suggest that you increase the tire pressure by 2PSI and check. Also, the C.Drives corner a lot better than most tires. In fact if you see carefully, the groove depth on the outside blocks of the tire is lower than the inside of the tire to provide the outside grooves extra strength against flex during cornering.

see some feedback on the yokohama site Yokohama / OUR TYRES / C.drive

Buffetfan,

I've already gone through these feedbacks when i started the discussion in this thread Was really impressed with all the positive feedbacks as compared to negatives. I'm hoping it serves the same here under Indian conditions as well!

Currently i fill 30PSI. I'll give a try for 32PSI but i feel it will be come stiff as the suspension for Palio Stile is already stiff. But still i'll try once and see.

But somewhere i now sense the 185/65 on cornering doesnt give a 100% satisfactory note compared to the stock size 175/65 even though it does a decent job.

I'll keep these observations for another 500-1000kms and see how it affects later on. Thanks

[Buffetfan]

Rudrah,

the body roll will be very slightly more given the fact that the centre of gravity has shifted up a bit. I would still be very very surprised if the C.Drive gave up the grip before the stock Goodyear's did. Is it the grip or the body roll that is disconcerting to you?

Rains are back in hyderabad and I am enjoying the wet grip that they offer. The minor problem with that, especially with the Innova is that the 225/60 tire displaces a large wall of water and a motorist pulled over on the next stop to tell me that the amount of water my car displaced made him feel that his car went underwater in a flood. He told me that this could be dangerous and since then, I have been a bit carefull in driving fast through large puddles even if I am sure that no potholes lurk beneath.

[rudrah]

Originally Posted by Buffetfan

Rudrah,

the body roll will be very slightly more given the fact that the centre of gravity has shifted up a bit. I would still be very very surprised if the C.Drive gave up the grip before the stock Goodyear's did. Is it the grip or the body roll that is disconcerting to you?

Right, I suspected that and i've to live with it. The gripping is fantastic on the wet tarmac and also on dry. The brakes feel more efficient with the new tyres. Braking has improved too. No complains about it.
Its the body roll is somewhere disconcerting me thou the Palio Stile version already had a bit of body roll than the retro Palios!

Originally Posted by Buffetfan

The minor problem with that, especially with the Innova is that the 225/60 tire displaces a large wall of water and a motorist pulled over on the next stop to tell me that the amount of water my car displaced made him feel that his car went underwater in a flood. He told me that this could be dangerous and since then, I have been a bit carefull in driving fast through large puddles even if I am sure that no potholes lurk beneath.

Wohao! I've seen other SUVs and MUVs also behaving like that? You think its the tyres?

I'm also careful driving through potholes only because of Alloys i've. Already 2 are bent :(

[Buffetfan]

Originally Posted by rudrah

Right, I suspected that and i've to live with it. The gripping is fantastic on the wet tarmac and also on dry. The brakes feel more efficient with the new tyres. Braking has improved too. No complains about it.
Its the body roll is somewhere disconcerting me thou the Palio Stile version already had a bit of body roll than the retro Palios!

I would say its OK since you ride on them all the time and corner hard only only once in a while. As you can see from some 185/60 feedback the ride does not improve. A side benefit is better clearance on speed breakers. Guess we cant have everything but this should be a good compromise. Also even if the roll is a bit more, I am sure it wont topple over the car

Wohao! I've seen other SUVs and MUVs also behaving like that? You think its the tyres?

I'm also careful driving through potholes only because of Alloys i've. Already 2 are bent :(

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[bijeeshvs]

Originally Posted by Nikhilb2008

The Aceleres are also good tyres. I suggest you just get one new Acelere to replace the damaged tyre.

Hi i was thinking about changing to yoko s-drive from CPC2 ( thanks to nikhil for suggesting cpc2 ) They performed (fiat linea diesel ) well and did not puctured a single time considering the abuse. I was thinking of a change bcoz the CPC2 were done at around 24000 Km and to give yokos a try hearing about their performance.
But there is a lot of pothole hitting complaints about them, the place where i drive we dont hit potholes but we hit road. Our highways are no different, The CPC2 held well. So shall i go for CPC2 again or any other tyre that can withstand these situation??????

[nileshch]

I am thinking of changing my yet to be delivered car's tyres to Yokohama C drives 205/55 R15. Any suggestions on dealers in and around Indiranagar and the rough price I should expect for the brand new Apollo Aceleres or JK 185/60 R15?

[bijeeshvs]

i am desperately searching for cpc2 or pp2, can anyone help me get these in kerala????

[gaurav_chopra04]

Originally Posted by bijeeshvs

Hi i was thinking about changing to yoko s-drive from CPC2 ( thanks to nikhil for suggesting cpc2 )
But there is a lot of pothole hitting complaints about them, the place where i drive we dont hit potholes but we hit road. Our highways are no different, The CPC2 held well. So shall i go for CPC2 again or any other tyre that can withstand these situation??????

I think I got you right and you meant that the place where you drive have lot of potholes..right? And then you ripped cpc2 in 24k kms. I'd recommend you stay away from S-Drives, they certainly privide much extra compared to other tyres when it comes to performance, be it dry or wet conditions but then the the side wall is too soft. They simply give up of bad stretches/potholes. Buy S-Drives if you can take care that you dont hit any pothole even at average speed (40-60) and if only thing you care about performance and nothing else. Also, note that they get loud with time.

[bijeeshvs]

Originally Posted by gaurav_chopra04

I think I got you right and you meant that the place where you drive have lot of potholes..right? And then you ripped cpc2 in 24k kms. I'd recommend you stay away from S-Drives, they certainly privide much extra compared to other tyres when it comes to performance, be it dry or wet conditions but then the the side wall is too soft. They simply give up of bad stretches/potholes. Buy S-Drives if you can take care that you dont hit any pothole even at average speed (40-60) and if only thing you care about performance and nothing else. Also, note that they get loud with time.

Thank you for the help, and i decided to stay away from s drives ( i usually hit potholes at 80-120 range in our so called highways) so no soft side wall. But conti is not available anymore and i queried about pp2 which unfortunately our dealers never heard of, one of the dealers offered me hankook for around 5300. still trying to find cpc2

[sumeethaldankar]

Yokohama's website mentions the C drive 2 instead of C drive.Is this a new version of the C drive and any idea when/where they will be available in India.

[Buffetfan]

Originally Posted by sumeethaldankar

Yokohama's website mentions the C drive 2 instead of C drive.Is this a new version of the C drive and any idea when/where they will be available in India.

No clue but the some of the tire ratings seem better for the C.Drive compared to the C.Drive2 and also I like the C.Drive pattern better. So catch it while it lasts!