re: Daily Mumbai traffic in a classic? - Yes! Ambassador bought and restored. Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulldogji Daniel, the handles on the glove box lids never came in the centre. This is a modification done by that car owner. I may add that it is a bit thoughtless, since it would take greater effort to open the lid from the centre than from the top. Simple physics, since the hinges are at the bottom. |
Rightly said, the owner has done such a modification with the glove box lid handles Quote:
Originally Posted by rajeev k Another point to be noted is that some time in 1966 the Smiths meters gave way to Autometer make Smiths lookalikes graduated in metric system ie., KMs.
This were OEs then and in 1968 Autometer also bought in the Yenkay lookalike type of meters. And the funny part is that the needles of the three Yenkay make meters (of Fuek gauge, Anneter and Oil Pressure gauge) were different to one another. |
Rajeev, my relative owned a January 1966 canary yellow (original company shade) car with the new Yenkay 1 +3 / 4 meter configuration. So its about late 1965 when the Smiths were gone.Imports were cut and indigenisation mantra was on. So most components had to be Indian.The Fiat 1100D, Herald and Willys jeep lost the imported meters. Quote:
Originally Posted by Philedonos Anjan, I have to thank you for the lovely sequence of dashboard pictures. I had done a similar one on my personal files, copying all the pictures I found on the net and through friends.
I seem to have a car of a rather odd year: end 1965.
In the subsequent picture of the light blue/dark blue interior, the handles are still on the upper side of the glovebox, but the ashtray appears and the clock is gone. This is I think early 1965. |
Welcome and yes, Philedonos the air ventilation vents gave way to the ashtray with the disappearance of the clock. I am posting more pictures and this will be evident. Quote:
Originally Posted by Philedonos
What puzzles me is the next picture, though, which you state is late 1965: the two Smith metres are gone and are replaced by a total of 4 small and one large instrument. This configuration remains until 1968 it seems.
So the major changes happened in 1965. The question is: when did the clock disappear and the ashtray appear (I presume early 1965)? And when did the Smith metres disappear?
I think I can safely say that my December 1965 model never had a clock, but I am trying to understand if it had the two Smith metres (which I hope, as they are so much prettier) or the 4 + 1 Yenkay
Harit, thanks for the link to the old picture. It again shows a model with a clock and the glove box handles on the top side. There doesn’t seem to be an ashtray (difficult to see) so it should be a late 1964 model.
Ok, if the research goes on like this I have found a new job in India: I will write the first book on Landmasters/Ambassadors in India, I seem to have at least 5 co- authors already, haha. And I'll grow old by the time I have all the information. |
Yes indeed,Philedonos, 1965 brought some changes at HM. The Mark II came in January 1964, by early 1965 the clock was gone, the ashtray appeared. Imports were minimised by all automobile makers. Luckily, SU carburettors survived till 1970/71 in the Ambassadors. Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulldogji Anjan, the last mark 2 bought by us did come with the rear lenses in one piece ,like the later, mark 3 . Our first mark 3 MMB 7411followed shortly after our last mark2 , MMB1684 . Maybe they just ran out of the old lenses? With HM anything was possible. Thanks for the pictures of all the dashes. They brought back happy memories. In those days , we were glad to get rid of those cars. Who would have thought people would actually begin collecting them!! |
Thanks Bulldogji for the information. As they say "anything can happen at HM." Again the hand brake missing in your new car is something that makes history for HM.Once a 1978 car was leaking when brand new in Calcutta. The owner took it to the showroom and they said don't see the body, see the engine. This fact was reported by The Statesman. Quote:
Originally Posted by deutscheafrikar How interesting to see them all on one page. Brings back old memories to some people. By the way that after market gauge in the center looks like a vacuum gauge to me. It had average, idle drive fair poor etc.. with the different colors. I think. Drive is the blue shade. Idle is to its left. Car had to idle well to be on that color band. And if you drove well you were on the blue band. Red band was poor I think. I still have a couple of these some where. |
Yes, my uncle was perhaps fed up with the malfunctioning clock.
Some more pictures:
These are Autometers as an aftermarket fitment in a Landmaster. As rajeev rightly put it this was a stop gap between the Smiths and Autometer in 1965
My uncle's car with no ash tray but with the ventilation vents that have been covered
Series III Morris Oxford
The ventilation vents with the clock
Manual
(most pictures are from teambhp and my album)
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