[Vid6639]

Originally Posted by superutp

Yes Viddy, the S cross and Aspire are in the top of my list too. What would you recommend if I was going for a pre-worshiped one?

If Aspire then why bother with used. Get a new one, it's under 10L on road.

If S-cross you can look at used but the 1.6L used will be rare infact very rare.

VW Jetta close to 15L used is a decent option but the 15L ones will be out of warranty for sure. The max warranty on the Jetta is 4 years.

[superutp]

Originally Posted by Vid6639

If Aspire then why bother with used. Get a new one, it's under 10L on road.

If S-cross you can look at used but the 1.6L used will be rare infact very rare.

VW Jetta close to 15L used is a decent option but the 15L ones will be out of warranty for sure. The max warranty on the Jetta is 4 years.

Yes Aspire would be the top end one- new- The recent safety rating has got me a bit concerned though
I have been searching around for a used 1.6 S cross since sometime now..never found one. probably time to find some owners (which also is rare) and convince them to change cars

Probably can get a 1.4TSI jetta for cheaper which may be under warranty.

[Waspune]

Originally Posted by superutp

Probably can get a 1.4TSI jetta for cheaper which may be under warranty.

If it's the 1.4 TSI then look at Octavia as it comes in a more powerful tune. The same engine in Jetta is just adequate. Also the Jetta is heavier.

Why aren't you considering the Ameo D? It comes with a 108 bhp/ 250 NM engine, handles well with stiffer suspension, is loaded with features, has a slick gearbox, rides better than the petrol counterpart. It's also available in DSG if that's your cup of tea. IMO the sound insulation is also better when compared to polo diesel.

[superutp]

Originally Posted by Waspune

If it's the 1.4 TSI then look at Octavia as it comes in a more powerful tune. The same engine in Jetta is just adequate. Also the Jetta is heavier.

Why aren't you considering the Ameo D? It comes with a 108 bhp/ 250 NM engine, handles well with stiffer suspension, is loaded with features, has a slick gearbox, rides better than the petrol counterpart. It's also available in DSG if that's your cup of tea. IMO the sound insulation is also better when compared to polo diesel.

Unfortunately none of the Octavias come within my budget.
Yes I should start considering the Ameo..The top end manual comes to around ~10.7 on road and DSG 11.7 on road so just fits within my budget range.

Only problem is that the a new aspire D is almost a lakh cheaper than the manual one and 2 lakhs less than the DSG which makes decision making difficult

[Waspune]

Originally Posted by superutp

Unfortunately none of the Octavias come within my budget.

Yes I should start considering the Ameo..The top end manual comes to around ~10.7 on road and DSG 11.7 on road so just fits within my budget range.



Only problem is that the a new aspire D is almost a lakh cheaper than the manual one and 2 lakhs less than the DSG which makes decision making difficult

I have seen some 2014 Octavia 1.4 TSI for just under 10 lakhs.

Regarding the Ameo, IMO it's the more FTD vehicle when compared to Aspire. Aspire scores better only in rear space. On other aspects the Ameo is the clear winner. It has a free revving motor, better handler, even the steering is better weighed and the ride is also slightly better in the Ameo D.

[SmartCat]

The only problem with Aspire & Ameo are the aesthetics. Go for the hatchback variants (Figo or Polo) - since boot space is not high priority for you.

Originally Posted by superutp

Unfortunately none of the Octavias come within my budget.

This one might be for sale -



http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/offici...ml#post4160360

[superutp]

Originally Posted by Waspune

I have seen some 2014 Octavia 1.4 TSI for just under 10 lakhs.

Regarding the Ameo, IMO it's the more FTD vehicle when compared to Aspire. Aspire scores better only in rear space. On other aspects the Ameo is the clear winner. It has a free revving motor, better handler, even the steering is better weighed and the ride is also slightly better in the Ameo D.

The Ameo DSG is at the top of my list- however, I did go an test drive both the manual and DSG version- I found the lag very prominent and definitely more than my optra (I wonder what the complaints about the Optra Lag was about). The DSG had slightly more lag than the manual. Engine felt just OK- I am sure it was fast enough and maybe the slightly more linear nature of the power/torque delivery made me feel it was slower/unexciting than it actually was (since I am used to the push back effect on the optra post 2k RPM)
I wasn't completely impressed by the interiors/nor the space- just didnt feel like ~12 lakhs (DSG HL)

Originally Posted by smartcat

The only problem with Aspire & Ameo are the aesthetics. Go for the hatchback variants (Figo or Polo) - since boot space is not high priority for you.

This one might be for sale -

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http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/offici...ml#post4160360

Haha that has another 2 DP (Donkeypower)


So guys, I went and test drove the Ameo and S cross one fine day and Aspire I have driven before. Not completely impressed by both the Ameo and Aspire though I am sure I am just comparing with my Optra too much and since I am inclining towards autobox's the Ameo trumphs the Aspire.

But S cross 1.6 was a totally different experience. I know in 0-100 times etc. the Ameo and the Aspire are faster than the S Cross- but everything about the S cross appealed to me. Definitely a class above the Ameo/Aspire interior wise and engine so well reminded me of the Optra's engine.

If it wasn't almost 16 lakhs on road BLR I would definitely buy it.

Confusion still remains- psychologically compromise and get the ameo D or rob a bank and get the S Cross 1.6 or buy polo tsi which makes me forgot I am used to drive a 2.0 diesel rocket or search around for 2 yr old Cruze/Octavia/Jetta's which will cost atleast 14 lakhs.

[khoj]

Take off the SX4's badging and what you have is the Fiat Sedici. A properly designed, built and put together Global product available to discerning buyers with the back up of Maruti's nation wide network.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Sedici

Originally Posted by superutp

But S cross 1.6 was a totally different experience. I know in 0-100 times etc. the Ameo and the Aspire are faster than the S Cross- but everything about the S cross appealed to me. Definitely a class above the Ameo/Aspire interior wise and engine so well reminded me of the Optra's engine.

[superutp]

Originally Posted by khoj

Take off the SX4's badging and what you have is the Fiat Sedici. A properly designed, built and put together Global product available to discerning buyers with the back up of Maruti's nation wide network.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Sedici

Hmmm, now I am wondering if I should wait for the updated S Cross which hopefully should come with an autobox mated to the 320DDIS

[superutp]

What do you guys think of the Linea 125? Is it still relevant? Its big like the optra...of course not a turbo diesel but atleast a Turbo petrol ..decently quick and at the same price as the Ameo DSG.

Edit: yes i know the abarth punto is faster at the same cost but I am inclining towards a sedan rather than a hatchback- never know when that boot space and extra legroom comes to good use

[Waspune]

Originally Posted by superutp

What do you guys think of the Linea 125? Is it still relevant? Its big like the optra...of course not a turbo diesel but atleast a Turbo petrol ..decently quick and at the same price as the Ameo DSG.

Edit: yes i know the abarth punto is faster at the same cost but I am inclining towards a sedan rather than a hatchback- never know when that boot space and extra legroom comes to good use

Well if you get the linea 125 into picture then you get the best ride, handling, power, torque, brakes, GC in the segment and 500 litres of boot. It comes in top trim and will have some discounts as well which will eventually prove to be quite VFM.

Better take a test drive for yourself and then decide as when Fiat comes into picture people either love it or hate it. I belong to the former category.

[superutp]

Yup, exactly..It has many things going for it and with its fellow class cars touching >14l for the same range of features, I suddenly found it to be a VFM option.

Will be test driving it tomorrow. Not very sure about the FIAT A.S.S aspect though

[Waspune]

Originally Posted by superutp

Yup, exactly..It has many things going for it and with its fellow class cars touching >14l for the same range of features, I suddenly found it to be a VFM option.



Will be test driving it tomorrow. Not very sure about the FIAT A.S.S aspect though

The A.S.S is not that great and requires some patience from your side, but eventually the work gets done. The service interval is 1 year/15000 kms.The best part is that it provides European traits in Maruti prices so the upkeep isn't expensive at all. Also Fiat is one of the better manufacturers that honors warranty claims without any fuss.

In fact even Skoda / VAG / Ford aren't great as far as A.S.S is concerned but they do make driver oriented cars. The choice is yours.

PS: I recently completed 2 years (36k kms) with my Punto Evo 90 HP and it has been a fun ride throughout.

[superutp]

Test drove the Linea 125 and the Abarth.

Started of with the Linea- did not really feel that much slower than the optra but of course its relative- Loved the handling, the ride.

Interiors are smaller than I expected. Main problem was the footwell- with my shoe size being 11 the clutch and dead pedal can interfere a lot. Seating position viz a viz the steering may take some time getting used. Overall liked it

Next drove the abarth and it was explosive, torque steer even in 3rd gear!! With that power other aspects of ergonomics didnt matter.

They are selling 2015 Nov/Dec manufactured abarth's for a discount of 1.2 lakhs and the Linea comes at ~11.9..More confusion now

[sriramv.iyer]

A quick question for the experts here - I recently test drove a Vento (DSG / TDI) and SCross 1.6 -

For the SCross, the engine was really rough on the 1.6 (had close to 10K kms) and it sounded *really* gruff. I appreciated the torque and the build quality. Is this an anomaly or is the engine really this gruff?

The Vento's pedals were vibrating! I had the same issue many years back when I evaluated it and I am surprised it is not fixed yet.

I had no issues whatsoever with the Linea 125S and it seems to be a great choice (esp practical because of a huge boot!) - I am yet to take a test drive of Abarth. I am hoping I can remap the Linea (or the SCross) for maximum fun.

I am also going to try the Ford Figo Sport. Haven't found time yet for that. I had the 2012 Fiesta Titanium+ (White) and I only have great memories of it. (Recently gave it to my friend since I picked another car)

Originally Posted by superutp

They are selling 2015 Nov/Dec manufactured abarth's for a discount of 1.2 lakhs and the Linea comes at ~11.9..More confusion now

@superutp - My 0.02c - Pick up the Linea. It is slightly less powerful than the Abarth, it is newer (compared to 2015 manufactured Abarth) and later, you can remap it for better performance. But you can never add a boot to Abarth (esp since you are coming from Optra)