[Arun_S]

Hi All,
I am currently in the market for a new car.

Highly confused, reaching out to our esteemed forum members to get their opinions.

If you feel I have missed any cars and it is worth considering please let me know

I currently drive a Alto 800.

My Requirements

• Preference towards SUV\Compact SUV's due to back pain issues
• Good Safety Rating - Can't Compromise
• It should be Automatic and have Hill Hold Function
• My Budget was earlier 10 L considering that nothing much is there in that price bracket willing to extend until 15L
• Not worried too much about it is Petrol or Diesel. In reality my daily usage wouldn't warrant a Diesel.
• Have a car, so waiting period is not a major concern.
• No Hatchbacks - Can't Compromise
• Most of the time it would be used by 2 Adults + 1 Kid, rarely would be joined by others, 5 seater is more than sufficient.
• Not looking at Pre-owned
• Peaceful long term ownership as I keep the vehicles for long duration

I understand I can't expect one car to be best in the budget I have, as each one has its limitations. I am looking for one which atleast fulfills at least 70-80% of my requirements.

My Shortlist
Tata Nexon
Pros:

• Good Safety Rating
• In the market for quite sometime, with good sales numbers

Cons:

• Comes with a AMT gearbox, have driven it, it is really a pain

2022 Brezza
Pros:

• Expecting a Good Safety Rating
• In the market for quite sometime, with good sales numbers
• Comes with a proper AT gearbox
• Have good rapport with the MS Dealership, so service is not a major concern

Cons:

• On Road price of Zxi comes to 15L, which is just 1 L shy of Astor CVT.
• Based on reviews, the 15C Engine lacks performance, tuned towards fuel efficiency

Scorpio N
Pros:

• Looking at the Z4 AT Variant
• Expecting a Good Safety Rating considering how Mahindra is focused on that.
• Comes with a proper AT gearbox
• Proper BoF SUV

Cons:

• Brand New Models generally will have QC Issues.
• Huge waiting period
• On Road might be above 17.5 L

MG Astor
Pros:

• Looking at the Super Variant , 1.5L
• The base variant for CVT itself has lot of much needed features
• Comes with a proper AT gearbox
• Nominal waiting period
• Not a fan of ADAS so no issues in missing them out.

Cons:

• 1.5 L CVT is not engaging to drive, people are commenting it is not able to climb with AC on.
• On Road just above 16L

Honda City 5G
Pros:

• Looking at the V Variant , CVT
• The base variant has lot of much needed features
• On Road just above 15L

Cons:

• Based on Review's, Bounciness in Rear Seat, might deter me, as wife normally itself complains of motion sickness.
• Due to convivence the SUV's offer, this would be last resort

Nissan Magnite
Pros:

• CVT is good, as per TeamBhp Review
• On Road just above 11L for the Top End model

Cons:

• Built to Cost
• Nissan's Network and their future plans

Toyota Hyryder
Need to wait for their pricing and TeamBhp Review

Cars Not Considered
Ciaz - Waiting for the facelift
Korean Twins - Venue\Sonet
XL6\Ertiga\Carens
Renault Kiger
Nissan Kicks
XUV 300

[Aditya]

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[shancz]

Here are a couple of threads where members are in similar situations, hope it helps :
- VIZ (2022 Maruti Brezza AT vs Tata Nexon AMT)
- topaz2011 (Tata Nexon vs. Mahindra XUV300 vs. Kia Sonet | Which car should I get for 15 Lakhs?)

As for your options the contest is really between the Brezza and the Astor.

Of the two, since you intend to keep your vehicle's long, I would say the Brezza primarily because of MSIL's fuss free maintenance and better safety on the assumption of this being based on the outgoing version without much changes internally. Both of which are an unknown for the Astor.

Rest should be dependent on your TDs.

[itsmeparvathy9]

Considering your shortlist, The Tata Nexon fulfills most of your criteria, the AMT being the lone downer, no wonder it's the top selling Compact SUV in the market.

As regards MS Brezza, Maruti cars have most often always been tuned for fuel efficiency. The features list is wide though this time around but pricing is on the higher side.

The Scorpio N would most probably fall out of budget.

The MG Astor is good with respect to features and pricing but mileage is very poor as compared to others in your list.

Nissan Magnite is built to a cost surely but is also the most VFM in the segment as well.

The Toyota Hyryder/Upcoming MS Grand Vitara can be considered provided they fall in your budget. The Grand Vitara likely being cheaper though.

Overall considering the requirements, Brezza seems a good pick in all factors except pricing. Buy a lower spec VXI variant and try aftermarket add-ons.

[NarediAni7518]

Wait for the Hyryder I would suggest. The car looks promising and might be the car for you. Since not many details are available for it and you have time, wait for it.

[Arun_S]

Originally Posted by shancz

Here are a couple of threads where members are in similar situations, hope it helps :
- VIZ (2022 Maruti Brezza AT vs Tata Nexon AMT)
- topaz2011 (Tata Nexon vs. Mahindra XUV300 vs. Kia Sonet | Which car should I get for 15 Lakhs?)

As for your options the contest is really between the Brezza and the Astor.

Of the two, since you intend to keep your vehicle's long, I would say the Brezza primarily because of MSIL's fuss free maintenance and better safety on the assumption of this being based on the outgoing version without much changes internally. Both of which are an unknown for the Astor.

Rest should be dependent on your TDs.

Thank you for pointing the 2 threads, it really helps. As you mentioned Brezza is one of the strong contenders other being Honda City.

Originally Posted by itsmeparvathy9

Considering your shortlist, The Tata Nexon fulfills most of your criteria, the AMT being the lone downer, no wonder it's the top selling Compact SUV in the market.

When I decided to buy a new car Nexon was my top pick but I had used the AMT based vehicle for couple of years, I am skeptical about using them again

[shancz]

Originally Posted by Arun_S

As you mentioned Brezza is one of the strong contenders other being Honda City.

Then it's easy, just decide if you would want a sedan or a CSUV but only after TDing both.
Good Luck

[sreerknair]

From your list, I would consider Hyryder as first choice if it comes within your budget. Next would be Brezza or City based on whether you have passengers who have difficulty in getting into a sedan. If not, then City will be my choice.

[sam264_2000]

I would recommend either 2022 Brezza or 2022 XL6 or 5th Gen City CVT. Though you aren't considering XL6, I strongly urge you to give it a second thought. It's a bit pricey but you would be surprised at the package and flexibility it offers. You can also decide to wait for the upcoming S-Cross. I drive the 5th Gen City ZX CVT. I haven't experienced any rear seat bounciness (my wife & kid have motion sickness too) yet at sane speeds between 90kmph to 110kmph. Honda has stiffened the suspension and it shows. You get a lot of car for your money when you buy a City. But to each his own. Get the roomiest, most powerful, reliable and feature rich car available in top of your budget - you won't be disappointed.

[Arun_S]

Originally Posted by sam264_2000

I would recommend either 2022 Brezza or 2022 XL6 or 5th Gen City CVT.

I would definitely check out the all the 3 you have mentioned.

Just a question, I do have back pain, i understand Sedan's due low seating position are not that suited when compared with CSUV's.

But heard that in City it is comparatively better. Any thoughts on this.

[itsmeparvathy9]

Originally Posted by Arun_S

I would definitely check out the all the 3 you have mentioned.

Just a question, I do have back pain, i understand Sedan's due low seating position are not that suited when compared with CSUV's.

But heard that in City it is comparatively better. Any thoughts on this.

it is easier to get into and out of a vehicle where you don't have to bend over too far. It is not fun trying to get into a car, but an SUV is the right height where you can open the door and the seat is already at waist height so all you need to do is slide in sideways without having to turn yourself into a pretzel trying to get your body low enough to get into a sedan. Moreover, SUVs cabins are of much more height than low slung sedans giving you better headroom too.

[unoczar]

Nothing can beat the comfort of the back seat of a sedan. Period.

But, as it turns out, the bigger cars are the best sellers currently.

Why don't you as a couple sit in the pilot seats of the XL6? It's a Maruti after all!

Don't make a decision before doing this.

[itsmeparvathy9]

The Maruti XL6 is a MUV (Multi-Utility Vehicle) based on the Ertiga, it is neither a sedan nor an SUV, but a comfortable car to be in, but the automatic is priced over 15 lakhs on road in Chennai, which is a bit pricey, The Honda City is a much better option

[bivision]

I am (or was) in almost same situation as well. I am planning to upgrade from 2007 Santro AT. Six months back I started market exploration. Started without any particular car in mind, but soon after few TD on AMT hatchbacks (Swift, i10, Santro), I could decide what I want. Anything below TC AT would be downgrade, but unfortunately no budget car puts TC any more after advent of cheaper technologies, so ok to compromise upto CVT only, not AMT.

Below are my criteria of choice, in the order of priority.

Must Have:
1. Automatic
2. Good height (Coming from tall boy old Santro, need comparable headroom)
3. Small enough for city drive

Priority Requirements:
4. Maximum safety features starting from hill hold to Traction control, and good NCAP rating
5. TC or CVT. AMT painful, DCT not good for city drive (as I read in reviews) and expensive. EV expensive considering my low usage.
6. Plan to use for 10-15 years
7. Petrol only
8. Sub 4-m with <1200cc engine, to get cost benefit of lower excise duty

Applying these conditions, I could find only one car that fits my need. It is Nissan Magnite.
So I decided to buy a White Magnite (White colour for better safety) as soon as mandatory 6 airbag cars come to market, unless some better variant comes by then.

- I liked the CVT drive of Magnite much better compared to Honda Jazz, Renault Kiger (Renault service rep didn’t let me drive well on roads, was more interested showing me off-road performance)
- Safety features are better than Brezza (all Brezza features + Traction control) and with 4 NCAP rating
- Useless features (wireless charger etc) are offered as optional tech pack, which I can avoid
- Value for money

Any expert advice? Will ‘built to cost’ be an issue in the long run?

[itsmeparvathy9]

Originally Posted by bivision

I am (or was) in almost same situation as well. I am planning to upgrade from 2007 Santro AT. Six months back I started market exploration.
Must Have:
1. Automatic
2. Good height (Coming from tall boy old Santro, need comparable headroom)
3. Small enough for city drive
Priority Requirements:
4. Maximum safety features starting from hill hold to Traction control, and good NCAP rating
5. TC or CVT. AMT painful, DCT not good for city drive (as I read in reviews) and expensive. EV expensive considering my low usage.
6. Plan to use for 10-15 years
7. Petrol only
8. Sub 4-m with <1200cc engine, to get cost benefit of lower excise duty
Any expert advice? Will ‘built to cost’ be an issue in the long run?

Considering the prices of the cars mentioned in your post, I am assuming you are looking for a car in the same price range (as you have not specified a budget), it is obvious that your choices are very few. The Nissan Magnite seems to cover all your needs, but the service network, Nissan's future in India, (considering that this is their only model that sells) are a few concerns you may have to consider.

The only other cars that cover most of (if not all) of your requirements are:
1. Honda Amaze CVT (But is a low-slung sedan)
2. Tata Altroz DCT (It is a DCT and it's a hatchback)