The new Swift will be slightly less powerful than the outgoing version but will offer better fuel economy.

Maruti Suzuki is all set to launch the fourth generation Swift in India later this month. The carmaker has opened its order books but has yet to release details of the India-spec Swift.

While we do know that the new Swift will be offered with Maruti Suzuki’s new Z Series engine, a leaked document sheds more light on the technical details of the new engine.

The 2024 Swift will be powered by a 1.2-litre, 3-cylinder petrol engine paired with a mild-hybrid system. It produces 80 BHP @ 5,700 rpm and 112 Nm @ 4,300 rpm. The engine is expected to be paired with a 5-speed manual gearbox and an AMT.

In comparison, the outgoing version is slightly more powerful. It uses a 1.2-litre, 4-cylinder engine that develops 89 BHP @ 6,000 rpm and 113 Nm @ 4,400 rpm. 

2024 Maruti Suzuki Swift fuel efficiency:

According to the leaked document, the claimed fuel efficiency of the manual version is 25.72 km/l, which is 3.34 km/l higher than the outgoing version.

Source: V3Cars

Overall 17-18 km/L is what I am getting as mix FE before first service.

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Update

• 1000 Km completed on odo
• FE I'm getting without first service is
• 15-17 in city with evening traffic
• 19-20 on highways and opens roads
• Overall 17-18 is what i am getting as mix FE without first service

Maruti has made a mileage beast this time

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Tata, Mahindra, Hyundai & Kia all sell electric cars/SUVs in India, as do a bunch of luxury brands.

BHPian TorqueIndia recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

Hi guys, our BEV market is expanding faster with more car models and manufacturers entering day by day.

Reva was the forerunner in our EV market with still many examples in use despite the vintage and support.

Later Mahindra and Tata Motors came up with low-voltage EVs for the fleet market with EVerito and Tigor EV.

Tata Motors introduced the Nexon EV in 2020 creating a huge stride in the market with high-voltage EVs.

4W BEV sales in India have stood at 150K units since 2018. Tata Motors leads with 4 products -Nexon, Punch, Tigor and Tiago.

MG has COMET and ZS EV, Mahindra has its XUV400 EV, and Hyundai is selling Kona and Ioniq 5. Kia is selling their KIA EV6 at the premium end too, along with almost every premium brand out there.

Even though sales are on the rise, many are still sitting on the fence with doubts about the reliability and durability of EVs and the evolution of battery technologies.

The EV community is quite huge now, with so many customers already crossing the warranty limits, in this thread, we can collect the data on highest highest-running EVs in India.

Here is a fresh milestone muncher 1.5 Lakh run on Nexon EV since OCT 2020.

TOTAL spending on charging and maintenance 2L +1L Total 3L.

Update: Another one, this NEXON EV might be the most used EV in the country, crossing 2.0 L km in April 2023.

Awaiting current status, the car was part of a corporate fleet.

Update 2: Here is a Blusmart India cab MG ZS EV with 1.07L km on odo as of SEP 2023 as reported by BHPian BunnyPunia.

Blusmart has a huge diversified fleet and might have the highest numbers too.

Here's what BHPian Shresth_EV had to say on the matter:

A few months ago I saw this video on YouTube of a user review of Nexon EV Prime by the owner who did 162K km in 2.5y

Apart from this, there’s also one Nexon EV prime owner in our tele group who completed and shared his 140K km ownership cost in Nov’23.

Via his Telegram channel.

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I try to keep the rpms around the 2000 mark and tyre pressure at OEM recommended levels.

BHPian night_eagle recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

• Car: Jeep Compass BS6 Diesel MT Oct'22 model
• Usage: 75% highway; 25% city
• City: Bengaluru
• Odometer: 23500 kms
• AC: Switched on 75-80% of the time
• Lifetime FE (full tank to full tank): 15.1 kmpl
• City mileage: 13.5-14.5 kmpl
• Highway mileage: 18-19 kmpl
• Speeds: 100-110 km/h on highways, 25-30 km/h in city

I try to keep the rpms around the 2000 mark and tyre pressure at OEM recommended levels.

Mileage for my recent trips:

1. Bengaluru - Vagator - Bengaluru via Anmod Ghat: 17.5kmpl

2. Bengaluru - Rameshwaram - Thanjavur - Bengaluru: 17.3kmpl

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I am writing this with a lot of sadness inside but now I am seriously considering to replace the car.

BHPian Sids85 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

I am an avid follower of Team-BHP threads and its various contents. This is my first ever post on this forum. I look forward to some honest suggestions and opinions on my post. I come here to write about a dilemma and the way out.

I live in Thane and my daily commute entail covering approximately 40-50 kms for a round trip from home to office and back. I currently own a Jeep Compass Petrol DCT 80th Anniversary edition (Limited). I just love the car and the feel it gives while driving. It definitely gives the feel of a car one segment above. Everything is top notch; build, interior cabin, even the music system although it is not branded.

Unfortunately, the dark side is that it is a MASSIVE fuel guzzler. Being a Petrol AT, along with the quality of roads and traffic condition we face it just sucks the petrol and my wallet (pun intended) dry. In City, it struggles to give a mileage of 4-5kmpl whereas on highways, it reaches 14-15 and on some very good stretches even touches 18 kmpl. Considering the weight of the car and the engine power, I cannot fault it.

I am writing this with a lot of sadness inside but now I am seriously considering to replace the car. Before a suggestion comes about having a second car for daily commute, I would make it clear that it won't be possible for the family to maintain multiple cars for different commute types. Also At is the preferred choice since both me and my wife drives and we need the ease of automatic. From the family point of view and after considering my commute routes, the drive is split as: Home -> Office -> Home 70%. Long Journeys outside city - 30%.

Based on the above my preference is towards a Diesel car, a breed going extinct, not exceeding 20-25 lakhs price range with good ground clearance. I would like to make it clear I am open to Petrol vehicle as well if someone can prove the real world fuel efficiency to be good. In the meantime, I have shortlisted the following cars in my mind for consideration after test drives.

• VW Virtus GT 1.5 DSG - Spacious and amazingly fun to drive. Wife just drools over it
• Kia Seltos Diesel AT XLine - Comes with all the safety, feature rich, ADAS and almost compliments the Compass for a Like to Like replacement.
• XUV700 AX5 Diesel AT - 5 seater although misses out on many features, even basic ones like Auto dimming IRVMs.
• (A second hand Jeep Compass Diesel S model - Coz I love Jeep

Many would ask why I haven't mentioned the Hyryder/Grand Vitara. I had taken the test drive with my wife for the Hybrid but the quality especially the door (sounds like a click rather than a thump while closing) didn't inspire confidence. Harrier/Safari Diesel are fuel guzzlers themselves. Not sure if the upcoming Creta will get a Diesel AT on launch.

I look forward to getting some good suggestions. Want to make an informed decision and hope that the forum gives the right guidance. Ending with a final pic of my Jeep

Here's what GTO had to say on the matter:

Let's get one thing out of the way. With very few exceptions, no powerful AT will ever give above 6 - 7 kmpl in a crowded city. They are all guzzlers. The Civic AT & i10 AT were notorious for just 6 - 7 kmpl. My Thar Petrol AT gives 6 kmpl. If the traffic is really bad, it can even drop to 5.

Now, clearly, you love everything else about your Compass:

Why sell a car you love to save 2000 - 3000 rupees a month?

How about getting a cheap EV like the Tiago EV for this? Dirt cheap running costs, butter-smooth driving experience and small size might make it perfect for the city. Take the max warranty and you don't have to worry about maintenance.

Option 2: Do a lateral upgrade. Sell used, buy used, so you don't lose money. Swap your Petrol AT out for a Diesel AT (although you'll find many more of the Diesel MT in the market). As an added bonus, the Compass' diesel engine is the superior IMHO.

Here's what BHPian antz.bin had to say on the matter:

If the monthly running for your commute is roughly 1000km (45km*22 days office a month, fuel at 105/litre), that is 20-22k in just fuel on the Compass. So it's definitely not just 2-3k its really more than even the 9-10k you mentioned.

With a Tiago EV XT LR, the EMI would be about 16k (including the current discounts) and <1000 for electricity. Even less if you go for the Tiago MR or MG Comet. You will come out ahead by about 6-10k with the additional car and still keep your Jeep for highway use.

The other option was the like for like replacement with Seltos Diesel Automatic. 1000km on that will cost about 7k in fuel for the commute. But those don't come cheap either. The EMI itself will be roughly 37k and you eventually come out just 6k ahead on monthly payments in the best-case scenario on a car that is a segment down and inferior in terms of safety factor as well.

The final option is to go all Electric and opt for a ZS EV instead. What you spend extra over the Seltos in this case, you will get back in fuel savings. Highway usage will be rewarding as well, and the car has some discounts ongoing to make the deal sweeter.

Here's what BHPian Shreyans_Jain had to say on the matter:

Keep the Jeep for highway usage. It is unmatched on open roads, and every other car feels like a downgrade once you are used to Compass.

For your local commute, but a cheap EV like Tiago or Comet. Else, buy a cheap CNG hatchback like Tiago or WagonR or Baleno and use it as your daily beater.

Here's what BHPian svsantosh had to say on the matter:

So multiple cars ruled out in the family....

I can clearly see a wrong choice made while the Jeep Compass petrol AT was bought without looking at the cost of ownership and the practicality of a highway bred SUV doing 70% city duties. You are not alone, deciding on a car is akin to choosing your life partner, at least in Tbhp Parlance. We have threads and prospects discussing 'what car' for over 3-5 months before choosing one.

Your options are limited with various pros and cons.

1) CNG - I would not convert a Compass AT to CNG, but you can save a LOT!! Trust me - upto 50% running cost can be saved, but resale value will tank to near 0%

2) Sell to a well known used car dealer and pickup a Petrol AT with a pre-fit CNG, consider it a lifestyle downgrade but directly addresses your monthly bills concern.

3) Do (2) but go for a Diesel AT - catch here is only expensive marques came in diesel AT and you end up deeper into the rat hole. You will shell out more on repairs on the german AT issues (VW, Skoda, pain!)

4) Bite the bullet and downsize to a Hyundai MUVs or a Maruti AT which is known to be a wee bit cheaper than a full blown Petrol AT SUV.

I would suggest you work backwards from you 'upper limit' monthly or yearly car ownership costs (fuel/maintenance/insurance/repairs) and share it and we all can work towards suggesting a choice of car(s).

Here's what BHPian vattyboy had to say on the matter:

I am a Jeep Compass Diesel owner.

My car is 5 years old and now it is asking Mercedes kind of money for its maintenance and the resale value of it is very poor in single digits.

Apart from good stability at high speed, the car is overall very unreliable at 80k km injectors failed, the vacuum pump failed, the alternator failed, and mounts failed in 5th year of ownership. And you know how good we bhpians keep our cars, so there are no signs of abuse on it but the car failed to be reliable.

Jeep parts are ridiculously expensive 80k injectors, 90k alternators, 12k vacuum pump, 80k clutch etc.

And you are selling your car for mileage, so don't expect very good mileage from 25 lakh diesel SUVs with 2.0L engines. They will give 9 to 10 kmpl in city conditions and not more than that, so your criteria will not be fulfilled.

Only Kia Seltos Diesel AT has the guts to give 14 kmpl in the city and 20 on the highway. I will recommend selling the compass as it's unreliable and getting Seltos Diesel.

Seltos due to stiff suspension can only match the 85% dynamics of the compass below 30 lacs.

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I am very satisfied with how the car has been performing. No issues encountered over the last 1 year and hope it stays the same for years to come.

BHPian sunbaj recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

Wanted to give 1 year update on the ownership review of my Brezza 2022 which currently has 17,011 KM on the odo.

The 1st post on the purchase and initial impressions can be found here.

There is nothing much to update about the overall performance as I am very satisfied with how the car has been performing. No issues encountered over the last 1 year and hope it stays the same for years to come.

Will be very precise and to the point. Let me know if anyone has any questions or would like to add depending upon their driving observation of the Brezza.

According to me the best features of the car in order of my personal preference:

1. Smart Hybrid and auto stop start.
2. Hill Assist as I did not have it in my previous cars
3. Head lights compared to what Maruti usually provides in their cars.
4. Seating position and comfort in long drives.

According to me the useless features or what should improve:

1. Sunroof a completely useless feature at least for me. Haven't used it even once.
2. Wish Maruti would have provided the 6th Gear. On highways really feel the need of 6th gear.
3. Wish there was more boot space. For the overall size of the car the boot space should have been better.
4. Need of MGP aftermarket arm rest. Have followed up with multiple dealers in Chandigarh but none have the Zxi arm rest.

I have driven the car with 4 occupants and full boot but really never any performance issues. These were Highway drives though.

Now for the pictures of the odo and acar app which I use to track my car:

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The fuel efficiency of my large hybrid MPV is the same as that of my small i20 diesel.

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Since everyone is sharing their fuel efficiency figures, here's mine for the past week with the full tank - full tank method.

Fueled up to full tank at 7660 km

Fueled up to full tank again at 8350 km. Ignore the trip meter as it only shows the mileage since the car was currently started.

It took 38.53L to fill it up the second time which gives us the amount of fuel used in between. Refueled both times at the same pump.

• Distance travelled: 690 km
• Fuel consumed: 690/38.53 = 17.9 km/l

This was mostly over hilly roads as I drove from Angamaly to Pathanamthitta and back through Pala. The road was pretty decent and my dad and I had a hoot on the hairpins in sport mode. Very happy with the mileage since it is around the same as what I get on my diesel i20 which is way smaller and lighter.

One thing to note is that the mileage of the Hycross drops rather fast if the car needs to recharge the hybrid battery while it is staying still or crawling in traffic. The engine never idles in the Hycross, it either revs up high to charge or it will just turn off. It doesn't seem to be as efficient at charging the car while staying still as when a percentage of engine power also goes to turn the wheels. You can give a slight kick on the accelerator to force the engine to turn on during normal driving to recharge the battery if you know that you will be stopped for a significant time later on. I do this when I know I will be approaching a railway crossing gate or signal to ensure the car doesn't turn on to power the AC while I'm stopped.

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My advise, redline your engines, not once or twice - run through the gears on a weekly basis, break in your engines.

BHPian s2K_scorpioN shared this with other enthusiasts.

Proud owner of a Deep Forest Scorpio-N petrol.

Thought I'd share fuel figures.

My MID has been pretty accurate (on the highway), I'm talking within 0.2 Kmpl, give or take.

City:

8-9 kmpl on average, comfort driving, tank to tank. A novice foot got around 7.34 Kmpl (tank to tank over approx 70 km in the city. I can milk the MID upto 10.5 Kmpl with a very judicious foot, even 11.5 without the a/c - these figures are per trip, not tank to tank. This is Hyderabad traffic, with occasional standstill traffic, bumper to bumper at most congestion points with a decent flow. With really bad traffic, I believe I'd still be getting 6.5-7.

Highway:

Average speed around 110 kmph - 9.5-10.5 Kmpl (this was when the engine was pretty fresh, no cruise control). Approx 500 km on the odo. (9.5 with a heavier foot, 10.5 going easy on the hard acceleration).

city-->highway-->village, even distribution, about 11.2 Kmpl.

At this point I started experimenting with cruise control.

Cruise control set to 93-97 kmph yields a fuel economy of 11.9 - 12.2 Kmpl. Didn't bother going any slower. Didn't bother going any faster either - my mileage foot was doing a better job at higher speeds.

My advise, redline your engines, not once or twice - run through the gears on a weekly basis, break in your engines. I've only been able to go at it hard myself on 3 different occasions on the ORR, but it is healthy for a new engine, trust me. Source - Automotive Engineer, lol.

I hope this this information is a value add.

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The car gives a mileage of about 5.5 km/L on office commutes.

BHPian vkap257 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

I can vibe with you regarding the Astor which is a kind of hidden gem but for a certain niche of people - people like my Father in Law. He is one cool customer who would have brought a 1970s american land-yacht today if it was available . He loves to stick to the right lane doing 80 all day long and appreciates a high riding position at the same time. He isn’t a corner carver but hates the floaty wheel which his erstwhile Ciaz gave on highways.

The car was a perfect buy for him. The Dealership experience was nothing short of a dream. Even the service centre had basic courtesy of making their client feel good by offering proper lunch to him while he waited for servicing to finish.

I can resonate with your observations and might add some of mine too.

• The power of the car as you mentioned is adequate and performs well on highway. However due to the inherent nature of CVT, one has to be careful while overtaking on an incline. I was caught unaware 1-2 times and had a deer-in-headlights situation as the rubberband effect hit mid-overtake. One has to use the available manual mode. Paddle shifters would have helped a lot.

• The suspension of the car is very smooth and neutral in nature. Even my father in law was unknowingly driving faster due to the confidence the car gave him on highways. And dare I say the suspension is more silent than the Koreans.

• The lighting situation is good and adequate throw and spread is available. However I do agree that ambient lighting would have definitely helped. On that note, I actually donot like the instrument cluster as too much information is just spray painted there. I can only imagine how much it confuses my 60+ father.

• The material quality is good with on-par segment fit and finish. But ample use of leather like material uplifts the experience greatly. The buttons are good and have a weight to them without the hollowy-ticky feel while operating. The speakers and not good and I feel they are maruti-grade.

• I can understand your apprehensions about safety but in my research the car came up as a good scorer in ASEAN ncap and AU ncap tests. The car will ring even if the rear passengers are not belted up and also warns you of impending speed cameras in your route.

• My father got a discount of 1.25 lakhs while buying the car. But nothing in life is free and hence he gets 5.5 KMPL on his office commute

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My family owned a Ciaz before, and we just bought the new Kia Carens luxury+ 7 speed DCT this May.

BHPian EV_head recently shared this with other enthusiasts.

I'm a newbie here, turned 18 last December. My family owned a Ciaz before, and we just bought the new Kia Carens luxury plus 7 DCT this May. Will make an ownership thread in a while. I have always loved to try to extract the highest mileage possible. In the Ciaz, I have managed to extract 35kmpl ( it was a 1.3l diesel alpha 2017), verified by tank to tank (cuz it showed a max of 30 in the mid). In the Carens I have managed to extract 31.7, though I only took the pic of 30.2

The 31.5 was extracted from hosur to krishnagiri and there was medium traffic with 3 trucks in three lanes at times!!! Since I have traveled quite a bit after that, i don't remember much details.

I traveled from Bangalore to Chennai yesterday at about 6.30pm ( reached at 1:37 am). There was heavy traffic and it was difficult to keep up the ideal speed. I could extract 25 kmpl on the highway including bangalore's city traffic and excluding chennai's traffic and diversions en route ( about 20 kms). I forgot to click the pic of the MID at the end of journey.

This route also includes about 20 diversions which start from Vellore to Kanchipuram, hence the mileage dropped to 22 kmpl (don't have the pic of that)

Finally with Chennai's traffic and all the hassles from Kanchipuram, I could extract a final mileage 21.1 kmpl (with about 40 kms of city) We were 3 people and a husky with overloaded luggage. AC was on 100 % of the time.

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