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BHPian Ripcord09 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
What you'll like:
What you won't:
Tata Tiago.EV:
What you'll like:
What you won't:
Citroen eC3:
What you'll like:
What you won't:
What you'll like:
What you won't:
Tata Tigor.EV:
What you'll like:
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Here's what GTO had to say on the matter:
Between the poll choices, I'd go for the Punch EV. It's clearly the superior of the lot. However, I have voted for "Other". Am not price-sensitive & would spend the extra bucks to buy a Nexon EV from the same showroom, or a ZS EV.
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BHPian sebinz recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Hi Our Tigor EV, which is 2 years old and has clocked 19,000 km, developed HV Critical Alert 9 days back. The previous night we had charged to 100% at home (slow charge) and the alert happened when the battery SOC was 96%. The car has been at the service centre for the past 8 days. Initially, they said it was a problem with MCU and took 5 days to get it ordered. Now they are saying they have to check the wiring again. No idea when we will get the car!
We were given a loaner car, a Nexon diesel automatic, after 2 days. Having been used to driving sedans, I find the diesel cumbersome. Another thing was that it was just one week before that we had got our Tigor after its 2-year service. We had never experienced this HV alert earlier. As posted by some other members, we also experienced an AC cooling issue within months of buying the Tigor. The AC Compressor was changed under warranty. The part had cost around 75,000.
The HV Alert has shaken my confidence in the car. Our Honda Amaze Petrol is now more than 10 years old and has never given us any cause for worry. The experience with the service managers, comparing Tata and Honda, was significantly poor with the Tata Service. I am from Kerala
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BHPian Nanolover recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Bittersweet/Average ownership experience -21,000 kms in 14 months – Tigor EV & Good Ownership Experience- 3500 kms in 3 months – Tiago EV MR
This is more of a comparison of the cars and the dealer experience also ( brought from different dealers)
Let me start with the Tigor EV
Purchase date : Around end August 2022
Dealer : Trivandrum Motors
Purchase Experience :
Abysmal and recommend that you AVOID this dealer. All sorts of skullduggery and never showed the car in the yard stating all sorts of excuses and finally gave me a car that I believe was a showroom display car. (I was given a 3 month old car). There are much better dealers now out there Derik, Luxon ( Nippon Toyota group) and better to give your business to them.
List of stuff YET to be provided by dealer :
Unsolved issues ( by the dealer)
Updates & Niggles over the course of ownership:
Let me start off by saying that for any new Tata product, the initial set of customers are beta testers and basis our troubles/horror stories, the company rolls out updates and retrofits them on their customer cars. The list is below:
Range :
180 kms is achievable with full ac and mixed city/ highway driving ( 100 -10% charge). Depending on driving style and ac usage range can fluctuate between 150 -180 kms.
Postives:
Negatives
I will be trying Luxon Tata next and will keep you updated on the service experience there.
Considering all the above, as learnings, I again took the plunge and my brother brought a Tiago ev MR ( he has solar in his house and electricity is free for him). This time with my hard earned lessons, we ignored Trivandrum Motors and went to the other dealer – Derik Tata.
They had a tropical mist MR in transit and were more than kind to show it to us once it reached the yard. We checked the car and gave it the all clear and it was delivered fresh to us with less than 8 kms on the clock ! ( car was less than 1 month old per VIN). The tiago is tight as a drum compared to the rattly Tigor I have. In fact the build is too tight , that you have to slam the dicky to close or open one door and then close the dicky.
Range :
130 kms in city driving with AC on ( this being MR)
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What I learned:
Conclusion:
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BHPian spaceunicorn recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
I am too a Tigor EV user, clocked around 17K kms in the last 1 year and 3 months. My experience so far is positive except for a few issues as noted in the post.
However - this is my city and regular drive car and it has saved me around INR 170K in the last 1.3 years of ownership. The fourth paid service was only Rs 1040 - which was again quite cheap compared to ICE cars at the same price point.
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BHPian vtires2018 recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Should TATA Motors make supercharger stalls like TESLA?
From the below graphic ( numbers may have increased*):
Should Tata with growing EV sales help their customers and growing EV eco system by developing EV sites/like fuel stations, and powering them with EV DC and "AC" fast chargers ?
Please comment, what is the maximum DC and AC fast charging your EV cars can "charge with".
Counted 819 DC only connectors/plugs per TATA Power website as of Dec 2022.
Tata has sold around 21,500 EV's so far (not sure of this number)
But main question is - Tesla has been opening the DC chargers around the highways, suburbs, parking spaces, etc.
Here's what BHPian Lina had to say on the matter:
Before setting up "Super"Chargers, Tata needs to make EVs that can be used on the highway comfortably. Currently all of Tatas cars charge at abysmal rates. The EV-max which is the fastest charges at 30kW. This basically translates to about 100km of range added in 30 min of charging if you drive <100kmph. So, if you drive at 90kmph for an hour, you will have to stop for 30 min to get back that range. The regular Nexon (21kW) and Tigor (18kW) have much worse stats in this regard. If you compare this with the ZS EV, it can add about 175km in 30 min. Not great but a lot more liveable.
Now, coming to the chargers installed, Tata chargers are usually slow, unreliable and at inconvenient locations. Networks like Zeon and Relux make it a point to install faster, more reliable chargers at restaurants on the highway making the whole process more seamless. As far as I am concerned, apart from Tesla, no other company has bothered about the charging network and how it works with the car. Tesla also routes the drivers to specific charger.
Here's what BHPian Tucker48 had to say on the matter:
Indian govt has set some standards for battery and charging infrastructure which the industry is opposing as they say it will stifle innovation.
Why would a for profit company will install chargers on a large scale when it's going to be used by competition as well. I don't know cost economics of chargers but IMO, it won't be profitable in metros unless govt agencies give land.
And, Tesla is losing market share faster than anyone ever predicted. Plus the federal incentives 2022 aren't of much help either. Only one model falls under $55000 limit (correct me if I'm wrong)
So, IMO, these tasks should be taken over by the govt if they want it to be standardized.
Here's what BHPian guptad42 had to say on the matter:
Make AC slow charging in 7-20KW range common.
1. Tata/all electric car sellers in India should first make 7.2 KW level 2 AC home charger standard across the range. They can work with the charger manufacturers for cheaper designs. The rising volumes will also reduce costs. 3.3KW is just too slow and should not be used on 4 wheelers.
2. Tata Power and other charging networks can work with commercial parking spaces like malls, large offices, and also with residential buildings to install 11-20KW AC chargers in 5% of parking spots. The %age of parking lots with charging can be increased gradually over the years. Initial selection of spots for charging can be based on surveys of people who frequent the place, and EV sales trends in the catchment area. Avoid DC fast charging in covered areas, as long term safety could be a problem due to lack of maintenance.
For highway chargers, focus the investment to provide the best experience to most EV owners. Instead of a slow and poor experience everywhere. This is critical to sharply raise confidence in buying new EVs.
3. DC fast chargers on roads leading out from the top car buying cities to nearby cities and towns up to 500km range. EV charging stops at 30 minutes travel distance at highway speeds. So about 40km apart.
4. While western countries are going to 300-550KW DC fast charging or more, India should standardise on minimum 100 or 150 KW for DC fast charging. Peak charging rate in any car should not be less 2C. That'll allow adding 100-250km range in a brief chai/coffee stop, depending upon battery size. At that point, people will worry less about charging times and range anxiety.
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BHPian Nanolover recently shared this with other enthusiasts.
Bringing this info of mine here for any of our members who are interested to know Tigor performance and ownership experience.
Having had the Tigor EV for a month now, I can confirm on the fact that it is the ideal size for city use, the Tiago will definitely be better than that. Also, the electric motor in one full sweep, removes the worst part of the Tiago/ Tigor - it's underpowered, inefficient and noisy petrol engine and gearbox ( can vouch for this having owned both petrol Tigor and Tiago AMT).
Now you can really get to enjoy the smooth gliding experience, no gearchanges ( the throttle is extremely well calibrated). In fact for city driving, i feel it even beats the best automatics since there are no gears at all, just glides along. Plus sport mode is really fun !
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Now, inevitably being a Tata, worse followed by the bad and the good
Safety Hazards:
The Negatives
Now the positives:
Range:
Have covered close to 600 kms now with the car. Now I have never driven in an eco friendly manner. My go fast mode ( With AC set at 24 degree all the time, 10 times use of S mode and a 60 km run on the by pass plus rest in city), you can expect a range of 130 km. Mind you this is the worst and the battery charge was 100 to 18 % before i plugged it again.
In sensible mode, with AC on and reasonably swift progress you can get 170 kms in the city ( 100 to 20% drop). Didn't go below 20 % much as car has to run 60 kms plus a day and don't want to be stranded
My driver who with his gentle Zen like driving can squeeze 200kms ( 100 to 20%) with ac ( 80% drive is on the highway)
Other points:
Conclusion:
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