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Originally Posted by Driving_Nomad Wow...! I am amazed at your comments. From your comments, if I can safely assume you're a techie:
You are a literate who can find out where the RTO is, PS: good that you paid the L.T.T and you didn't have a problem with it.��
I am a techie too. |
My problem is with the way the tax drive is conducted, but as long as we are not personally affected, we shouldn't complain right?
What does literacy have to do with finding the RTO? If you are hell bent on getting something from the RTO without paying a bribe, you are out of luck, that is what I was saying. I am glad you registered your car yourself, the dealer's hafta smoothened things for you, not your pucca documents, you have the option of registering ownership in a non existent address if you pay 500 more, so much for tracing ownership and fighting crime.
I don't know about your offer, but companies that need skilled manpower need to find them from anywhere, unlike the RTO pencil pushers, these people do useful work and pay out taxes, they aren't paid out of taxes. What kind of person gives weightage to road tax when evaluating a job opportunity?
I bought my car here, so naturally its registered here with LTT paid, the only problem is taking it across state lines when the river conflicts go out of control. The 10 month rent thing is slowly fading away, as the boom fades out and pay hikes become rare, the people who benefitted from it through state largesse (subsidized housing plots which they converted to multi storey rental accomodation) are learning to temper their greed.
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Originally Posted by sachinpk The state can be a benevolent benefactor, but at not the expense of foregoing tax revenues .
Did I say so? But "guilty complex" makes the process of confessing for a crime a much simpler process. Makes preparing the charges a bit more easy. If these people all had very strong convictions that they did no wrong, they could have fought back. How many tried? Yeah, it would be tough for a person coming out of a 60 lakh worth apartment to lie through their teeth and just came in two weeks back .
In Kerala I have seen drunkards advising Traffic police men, that should not catch them but focus on catching over-speeders. Over-speeders try advicing the RTO and Police to first check politicians and ensure they don't do any crime. These advices ultimately have no meaning. RTO and Police work based on their mandates. Ultimately the drunk driver and the over-speeder finds their advise ignored and a summons/vehicle check report handed over and fines collected.
Then either the company can pay up the LTT, or the employee can pay the LTT. Or else the employee can say he would not budge from his current place. The state government has no role to play here.
That is how you view things. But without the due approvals and tax breaks no IT company would set up shop here. Take for example KL which did nothing to support IT. They also have no compulsions to collect LTT, and other state specific taxes. A scheme which is implemented in KA would not work in KL, because the number of tax-dodgers would be less. A few Malayalis (quite small in number) using their KA vehicles may get caught in such raids. Don't allow your pet peeves against government servants (especially RTO) stop you seeing the rights of the state and central governments. |
The state can't be benevolent because the money doesn't belong to the state, those are taken with the implicit threat of force from citizens who don't have a choice, thats a reality of taxes anywhere. Not surprising you think government benevolence is natural, charity should come from your pocket, if you steal someone's wallet and help someone in need, you are still a thief.
A 60 lakh apartment is your idea of "rich", I live on rent in a 75 lakh apartment -valuation according to the government, good luck trying to find a buyer at that price. Suppose I give my car for repair and drive my dad's car to office for 2 days and on the second day the RTO crooks who station themselves about 100 meters from my apartment gate stop me, do I have to surrender my documents? What if we are leaving that afternoon to Kerala, do we leave the originals here with people whose identity we can't confirm and what do we do later on? I'll have my local company ID on me, does that prove I always used the car or that it has been here for 30 days? I keep the community sticker with me too, so the security lets me pass, again does that prove the car has been here long term? The RTO will find the car in my slot on a weekend, because I keep my car in the visitor parking when my parent are visting, does that mean my dad has to pay LTT because he can't prove that he doesn't live in my apartment? Waiting to hear your logic on this.
You would "confess" to anything the police accuse you of, if you were cornered in such a fashion. I hope you experience law enforcement excess first hand, I am sure you won't use a smiley to describe the experience.
Kerala has had good success with drunk driving checks, you straw man example isn't valid, the drunk is picked up and send to the hospital for a blood test and consequent legal action. The speeding fines are payable online and no further action is taken because the government can't upset this gravy train.
Kerala set up an IT park pretty much at the same time, the reality of lost mandays and insecurity due to political agitations meant that it never really caught on. People come to Bangalore for its cosmopolitan culture, even though KA has the same policies everywhere, no other place in the state is able to attract companies or people, tax breaks are always expensive for the citizen, only the corporate benefits, finally shakedowns are inevitable when the biggest revenue sources are ignored.