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Old 2nd October 2015, 17:17   #61
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Hi ventoman, Had a few questions.
  • Which service center did you do the 6 months check up from? Also, how did you place the order for the dead pedal?
  • Did you check with them about DSG Software updates that some members have reported doing?
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1. I've been going to VW Palace cross service center at Hesarghatta main road all along right from day one (of my previous Vento too). I'll PM you the service engineer's number to place an order for dead pedal. You can probably book an appointment for your 2nd service in about 10 days from then. Please ensure that both the parts have arrived before going there.

2. I asked them to do the required ECU updates. Didn't specifically ask them about DSG software update.
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Fitted Auto headlights, courtesy Ali bhai for $55/-. It was a simple DIY and hardly took few mins.
Hi Ventoman, I have a couple of questions regarding auto-light switch. If you put the switch in "Auto" position, once you switch off the car and take the key out, do all the lights (including parking lights) get off? Without the Auto switch, in the regular Polo TSi, if the head light is in "On" position, even after turning off the car and taking out the keys, the parking lights remain on. If one forgets to turn the switch to "Off" position, this could result in battery draining away.

In the installation procedure, you have mentioned to swap the headlight connector to the auto sensing unit. Once you connect the headlight cable to this unit, do you leave this unit hanging inside? Or do you fasten this unit with ties?

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Hi Ventoman, I have a couple of questions regarding auto-light switch. If you put the switch in "Auto" position, once you switch off the car and take the key out, do all the lights (including parking lights) get off? Without the Auto switch, in the regular Polo TSi, if the head light is in "On" position, even after turning off the car and taking out the keys, the parking lights remain on. If one forgets to turn the switch to "Off" position, this could result in battery draining away.
Yes. They do switch off completely. In addition, this unit comes with a coming/leaving home functionality to light up for ~60 secs after removing the keys and also during locking/unlocking. This feature is built-in to the unit iself and not controlled by the main BCM. So enabling coming/leaving home options via VCDS has no effect. Please refer to the attached instructions for these features.(Thanks to Gannu for uploading this manual earlier).
Auto Headlight Module.pdf

One thing to note - Fog lights are not controlled by this unit. So if you have to use fog lights, you'll have to change the position from Auto to Front fogs.

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In the installation procedure, you have mentioned to swap the headlight connector to the auto sensing unit. Once you connect the headlight cable to this unit, do you leave this unit hanging inside? Or do you fasten this unit with ties?
Usually the seller ships them with fasteners plastics ones used in shopping malls) with which you can safely tie in the unit to rims underneath the dash. You will be able to work this out yourself, once you open the side panel.
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Yes. They do switch off completely. In addition, this unit comes with a coming/leaving home functionality to light up for ~60 secs after removing the keys and also during locking/unlocking. This feature is built-in to the unit iself and not controlled by the main BCM. So enabling coming/leaving home options via VCDS has no effect. Please refer to the attached instructions for these features.(Thanks to Gannu for uploading this manual earlier).
Attachment 1424959

One thing to note - Fog lights are not controlled by this unit. So if you have to use fog lights, you'll have to change the position from Auto to Front fogs.

Usually the seller ships them with fasteners plastics ones used in shopping malls) with which you can safely tie in the unit to rims underneath the dash. You will be able to work this out yourself, once you open the side panel.
Thanks a lot for the clarifications, and the pdf file.

Just another follow up question. As the fog lamps are not controlled by the switch and they have to be turned to the fog lamp position, does this mean that it is not possible to have fog lamps active along with the headlights? Or is it possible to turn on the fog lamps along with headlights in manual mode?

In the Jetta, if I put the switch to the manual headlight on position and pull the switch outside, this will turn on the fog lamp along with the headlight. Maybe the switch has such a functionality.
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I'll PM you the service engineer's number to place an order for dead pedal. You can probably book an appointment for your 2nd service in about 10 days from then. Please ensure that both the parts have arrived before going there.
Hi Ventoman - Appreciate if you could PM me the service engineer's number as well. I am pretty much eager to get the dead pedal installed too. And maybe get that ECU update too.

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Thanks a lot for the clarifications, and the pdf file.

Just another follow up question. As the fog lamps are not controlled by the switch and they have to be turned to the fog lamp position, does this mean that it is not possible to have fog lamps active along with the headlights? Or is it possible to turn on the fog lamps along with headlights in manual mode?

In the Jetta, if I put the switch to the manual headlight on position and pull the switch outside, this will turn on the fog lamp along with the headlight. Maybe the switch has such a functionality.
My bad..I meant to say that you cannot activate the fog lights in Auto mode. But you can activate them by pulling out the switch in manual headlight position.

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Hi Ventoman - Appreciate if you could PM me the service engineer's number as well. I am pretty much eager to get the dead pedal installed too. And maybe get that ECU update too.

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Old 16th October 2015, 23:52   #67
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Hi Ventoman, I too have been trying to install the dead pedal here in Mumbai however have got a response from VW Downtown Shaman that they do not have the part number. Can you please provide the details of your dealer who helped you obtain it. Possibly might talk to him to help source it out here in Mumbai. Thanks!
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2. Replaced the front cabin lights to Jetta's as others.

3. Changed all interior lights to white LED. Hopefully the below picture depicts the differences in lighting now - Front is white LED; rear had the OEM (just for this pic).

4. Fitted Auto headlights, courtesy Ali bhai for $55/-. It was a simple DIY and hardly took few mins.
Kit received was as below.

Hi Ventoman, would you know if the GT TSI & the Vento TSI have the same BCM & the auto-lights work on both? Could you post an update on the auto-lights. Are they reliable? Also, what have you done with the OEM knob? Would you be open to sell it?
Thanks! and congrats on the mods!
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Hi Ventoman, I too have been trying to install the dead pedal here in Mumbai however have got a response from VW Downtown Shaman that they do not have the part number. Can you please provide the details of your dealer who helped you obtain it. Possibly might talk to him to help source it out here in Mumbai. Thanks!
Hi,
The part numbers are 6Q2864417 and 6Q2864777 9B9 (cover). You can find the service station numbers here. The service executive didn't want his number to be posted online. Hence have been PM-ing to others.

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Hi Ventoman, would you know if the GT TSI & the Vento TSI have the same BCM & the auto-lights work on both? Could you post an update on the auto-lights. Are they reliable? Also, what have you done with the OEM knob? Would you be open to sell it?
Thanks! and congrats on the mods!
Not sure about the BCMs as VW keeps confusing us with a facelift every now and then. Better to check yourselves underneath the dash. However, the auto headlights have nothing to do with BCM, as it's an unit with built-in sensor that can be fitted onto our cars. I've retained the OEM knob as a replacement, in case if this one gives up. But it's been great so far and no issues whatsoever!
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087 is the magical no. If your BCM has 087 as the last digits, then sorted!


Central Electronics Control Module
There are 5 Types of Body Control Modules (BCM/J519), only 3 of them support Cruise Control. The installed Type can easily be determined by the Control Module Part Number. Higher equipped Types always include the Options from the lower equipped ones.
Basis+
Part Numbers: ***-937-084-***
Medium+
Part Numbers: ***-937-085-***
Supported Features (like Basis+ and additonally): Central Locking, Anti-Theft-System, Outside Mirror Heating, Seat Heating
Medium++
Part Numbers: ***-937-086-***
Supported Features (like Medium+ and additonally): Remote Control
High+
Part Numbers: ***-937-087-***
Supported Features (like Medium++ and additonally): Cruise Control System (CCS), Anti-Theft-System LIN-Databus (for Alarm Horn)
Reku (Recuperation)
Part Numbers: ***-937-088-***
Supported Features (like High+ and additonally): Start/Stop System (with Recuperation)
Licht (Lighting)
Part Numbers: ***-937-089-***
Supported Features (like High+ and additonally): Lighting Functions (LED DRL, Bi-Xenon etc.)
Licht/Reku (Lighting/Recuperation)
Part Numbers: ***-937-090-***
Supported Features (like High+ and additonally): Lighting Functions (LED DRL, Bi-Xenon etc.), Start/Stop System (with Recuperation)
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087 is the magical no. If your BCM has 087 as the last digits, then sorted!
Apparently not.

Here's a 087 BCM which does not support cruise control:

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The pins highlighted below (44, 45, 46 and 47; missing in the 087 BCM above) are required for cruise control support:

My VW Vento Chronicles - From TDI to TSI!-bcm-pins.jpg

Besides, the last letter after 087 also matters as different letters correspond to the carrier frequency for the keyfob radio. 434 vs 315 MHz.

Apologies for the OT content, Sreeram!
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Sreeram and Frank, in case you guys are planning to install cruise control in your TSI equipped cars, on the ECU connector, the wire should go to pin no. 45. Found this information when I was searching through the Russian forums.

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I can confirm that this information is correct since pin no. 64 is correct for the 1.6 TDI engine as per ELSAWIN.

Pin layout of the 94-pn ECU connector just for info:

My VW Vento Chronicles - From TDI to TSI!-captur10.png

Elsewhere in the world, the Skoda Rapid gets cruise control as an add-on equipment sold through the dealerships and retail channels, and the fitting instruction manual had this information.

My VW Vento Chronicles - From TDI to TSI!-946516as960.jpg

I searched as much as I could but couldn't find the PDF version online. Found one for the Octavia though (doesn't have any useful info for us).

And surprise, surprise! I had popped up the hood yesterday evening to refill the windshield washer tank (the warning showed up in the cluster) and decided to check out how the ECU was mounted. I found no anti-theft security bracket! It was simply held in place using a flimsy plastic bracket and I was able to take the ECU out of this bracket just by flipping a small tab. The air filter housing was blocking it so couldn't check if the connector has any other security bolts but if there are none, the cruise control installation is going to be a walk in the park! I am just waiting for the BCM to show up at my doorstep.
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Wow. This seems very exciting. I have received my cruise control kit.. Just waiting for you to finish 😁
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I always knew the ECM in India would be spared of the silly security bracket! Cost cutting where it's not even seen! VW India has made it easy for us. Hahaha. Now how about a group install!?!? I don't mind doing a one day drive to Navsari and we can do it together. On a Saturday!?! Are you game?
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[b]Time for an update -

This is by far the best upgrade and will continue to be so. Quite like very many TSI owners on this forum, I too swapped the OEM wheel to a GTI version with Paddles.

Thanks to d_himan, devil5 who directed me to a spare set that was originally part of a group buy. And most of them from that group have successfully swapped to this wheel. So I was confident of its working and went ahead with the purchase. However, I decided to wait for the 1st checkup to be done before proceeding with this swap.


I drove down to Adigas Automobiles (a Bosch authorized workshop frequented by our own kryptonite too) for the swap.
Hi Ventoman, Kindly provide a few details regarding the GTI steering. From where did you source it? If from online, can you please provide the link. Adigas Automobile, how is their workmanship and is it the right place to go once the steering in sourced?
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