[e-katz]

Originally Posted by AvonA7

Yes, I have done exterior detailing. I checked with 3M, Waxpol etc and finally got confused and ended up doing on my own (thanks to team-bhp here), normal cleaning dust (using Jopasu), washing (exterior using Armoral wash-n-wax, interior - waxpol), tire using Armorall tire foam, chamois, MF towel and finally Collinite845.

Avon,

Couple of questions.

1. Where did you purchase these items and how much did you pay for them?
2. Do you have some sort of guide on how to go about cleaning the car to get the best results?

Thanks!

[AvonA7]

Polo is running fine. Not much to update. Decided to keep rear bumper as it is, may be sometime next month shall take it to the dealer as the damage is minimal.

Originally Posted by Schoudhury

Oooh oh , bad.
I also had a similar kind experience recently when a verna guy brushed the side of the rear bumper while my car was waiting for the signal to go green, and left a deep scratch on the rear bumper .
I don't understand why people are in hurry even if there stop signal.

I think we need to take these lightly (easier said than done) as we cannot stop others mistake and such minor things will happen

Originally Posted by Guderian

Hi AvonA7, Just read through your ownership report.
Firstly - delayed congratulations on acquiring a very capable set of wheels !
Secondly terribly sorry to hear about the 'run in' with the auto. Hope you get over the dismay and annoyance over the incidence soon.

Last year had visited the VW factory at Chakhan 3 times, as my previous company has a major contract there, and was on each occasion taken around the factory on a chukker and saw the Polos being manufactured. On the first visit saw the Fabia being born !
What impressed me about the Polo, as I saw a few units 'flying' above me on the lines, was the underbelly protection and all other 'toughen me up' kits being installed. A good friend who is a senior marketing chappie in VW explained later that these kits were for Indian conditions, though they install it elsewhere too.
Came back quite impressed.

And love the Polo for its design and interiors. The next upgrade for the LoH's car would possibly be the Polo after about couple of years from the Alto K-10.

Thanks @Guderian. Good to know the manufacturing process of Polo.

Originally Posted by degakc

Hi Gaurav, i am having the very same issue with the driver side power window. Have u found a solution yet? I noticed that it acts up whenever it rains. Not sure if this is just a coincidence.

The RHS front door pw issue is very much present in most of Polos, if not all. I faced this in all kinds of situations - within a km of drive, long drives, rain, sun but except @dealership

VW is very much aware of the issue as per the SAs at dealership.

Not aware of any permanent solution (others if any please share), however recently @sadnabrina updated his 1.6 thread that VW did some software updates - but it would be too early to confirm resolution of the incident.

Hope this helps -

Below is quoted from @sadnabrina`s thread for information -

Originally Posted by sadnabrina

Till date my car had received the following software upgrades -
1) 57D7 (applied during 1st service)
2) 97T9 (applied during 1st service)
3) 97U2 (applied during 1st service) and
4) 48I8 (applied last Saturday after filter replacement)

The changes I have noticed after these are -
1) The power window auto roll down issue (for late entrants - the driver side power window will automatically roll down, while you try to close it, without presence of any obstructions) has never occurred after the 1st service.

Originally Posted by e-katz

Avon,

Couple of questions.

1. Where did you purchase these items and how much did you pay for them?
2. Do you have some sort of guide on how to go about cleaning the car to get the best results?

Thanks!

1. Jopasu kit (~1100/-), car shampoo (depends on which brand, I paid ~400/-), tire foam (~400/-), mf cloth (~600/-, 3m sells for 99/-, other better quality would be ~250/-), waxpol interior cleaner (~300/-), chamois (~250/-) etc (rest all would be another ~4000/-) all purchased from local car accessories shop, 3m exclusive showroom. Collinite845 purchased from BB Impex. Please refer below -




2. I can share with you what I follow -

• remove dust from car - use any good duster

• Interiors - vacuum, then clean with meguiar, 3m, formula 1 any good interior cleaner

once the interiors are dust free and cleaned I generally use waxpol on the dashboard, door pads, rubbers, and plastic parts. helps keep them soft and looking new

• wash with a good car shampoo - armorall, meguiar, 3m, sonax etc

• If you have tire foam - spray as per the instructions and leave it for 5 mins and wash the tire

• dry it - using chamois, mf cloth

• clay kit - depends on how dirty the car is, optional

• sealant - meguiar nxt 2, any other good brand, again for me this is optional

• allow 8-10 hrs gap if using sealant and then

• wax it using Collinite845 leave for ~45 mins. once its dry use couple of good mf cloth to remove it and you will get the shine you were looking for

one advantage of this is - the next 3-4 weeks you can manage with a good car duster and occasional water wash with shampoo

Hope I am able to help with your query.

You may also refer the below link for more information -
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/modifi...edge-home.html

[e-katz]

Originally Posted by AvonA7

I bought it for 1100/-, not sure about ebay price.

Can anyone tell me where you can get it for this price in Chennai? On ebay, it is selling for 1300 + shipping

[venkateshkm]

Originally Posted by e-katz

Can anyone tell me where you can get it for this price in Chennai? On ebay, it is selling for 1300 + shipping

You should be able to get a Jopasu kit at Reliance Autozone. The Reliance Autozone shop in Bangalore has it. I paid Rs 475/- for a Jopasu duster.

[AvonA7]

Originally Posted by e-katz

Can anyone tell me where you can get it for this price in Chennai? On ebay, it is selling for 1300 + shipping

You can contact them at these nos., they`ll be able to guide on the dealer in your location -

020-25468172 / 25469880
0-9921000262
0-9921000264

BTW, price of Jopasu duster increased by 100/- and the latest one cost 575/-. Check with your local dealer if he has the Old stock, else one need to pay the current price.

[Omega Man]

Thank you Avon for your car detailing guide.

Here is a list of detailing products I bought:

I am unable to get the Jopasu Duster but anyways its not of much use in the rains. I just splash water on the car to remove most dust/dirt.

Wash
500ml Manual Spray & 1liter Hand Pump Spray Bottles
Microfibers & Chamois - 3M, Xstatic, Optimum, Others
Wash - Formula1 100 Washes - Wash & Wax

Wax
Microfibers - 3M, Xstatic, Optimum, Others
Wax Applicator Pads
Formula1 Carnuba Car Wax
Collinite 845

Glass
Glass Wiper
Xstatic Optical Glass Cloth
Max FX Glass & Surface Cleaner Foam
Glass Science Glass Cleaner and Rain Repellent

Tires
Armor All Ultra Shine Tire Foam
AJ Tyre Dress Express Applicator

Interiors
Carpet Brush
Planning to buy Collinite 855 for Leather/Vinyl/Dash

Others
Storage Basket for the above
3M Adhesive remover

I see a lot of Tar spots on the lower body of my car paint, even on the hood. Many have advised the use of WD-40 but I bought Min Cream which works really well but is time consuming as it cannot be applied all over the paint but just the tar marks. Also, a concentrate of Formula1 100 washes, is recommended to remove tar marks. Anything simpler than this?

I was advised that Claying is not required for a new car. Will try out all these things this weekend and post the results. Cheers

Originally Posted by AvonA7

1. Jopasu kit (~1100/-), car shampoo (depends on which brand, I paid ~400/-), tire foam (~400/-), mf cloth (~600/-, 3m sells for 99/-, other better quality would be ~250/-), waxpol interior cleaner (~300/-), chamois (~250/-) etc (rest all would be another ~4000/-) all purchased from local car accessories shop, 3m exclusive showroom. Collinite845 purchased from BB Impex.

2. I can share with you what I follow -

• remove dust from car - use any good duster

• Interiors - vacuum, then clean with meguiar, 3m, formula 1 any good interior cleaner

once the interiors are dust free and cleaned I generally use waxpol on the dashboard, door pads, rubbers, and plastic parts. helps keep them soft and looking new

• wash with a good car shampoo - armorall, meguiar, 3m, sonax etc

• If you have tire foam - spray as per the instructions and leave it for 5 mins and wash the tire

• dry it - using chamois, mf cloth

• clay kit - depends on how dirty the car is, optional

• sealant - meguiar nxt 2, any other good brand, again for me this is optional

• allow 8-10 hrs gap if using sealant and then

• wax it using Collinite845 leave for ~45 mins. once its dry use couple of good mf cloth to remove it and you will get the shine you were looking for

one advantage of this is - the next 3-4 weeks you can manage with a good car duster and occasional water wash with shampoo

Hope I am able to help with your query.

[AvonA7]

There is not much to update on my Polo.

Last 2.5 months, very few kms covered as mostly in-n-out of Pune.

Issues -

• Car is running as expected, occasional driver side p/w issue exists.

• 1st-2nd-3rd gear - occasionally gear changes are NOT smooth, 4th & 5th gears are smooth though.

Misc -
Went to the dealer to get the rear bumper painted - concerned people at dealership adviced against it (as the damage is minimal and mostly the rear number plate took the impact, an auto hitting the rear bumper at traffic signal), so decided against replacing/repainting the rear bumper and agreed on replacing the damaged number plate - all done and delivered to me within an hour, .i.e. the new number plate @275/- including 12.8% vat.

Just to share -
The insurance adviser was quite friendly in advising me not to spend money un-necessarily on replacing/repainting the rear bumper ( I do not have the 0% depreciation insurance, so I needed to share 2.5K as 50% of bumper replacement cost) and he ended up saying -

Sir, jaise chote bacche ko kala tika lagate hai, usi tarah aap bhi ye tora sa dent car pe rakh dijie, najar nahi lagegi. Agar kharcha hi karna hai to bara damage pe kharcha karna

I don't know what to say, even though funny but I agreed with his PoV.


Extended Warranty -
Registered for the extended warranty program for 1.2L Petrol Polo.
Cost - 7199/-
Some of the Terms and Conditions :

- Applicable till 04 years from date of purchase of car till 100,000KMs, after the default 2 yrs / unlimited KMs warranty.

- Can be transferred to new owner, in case of sale of car before 04 years from date of purchase

- Plastic/vinyl parts excluded in the extended warranty

- If car not serviced within the specified time/km interval from VW authorized dealer, extended warranty will cease to exist

- before taking the extended warranty one needs to make sure the same is registered at the dealership ( I was asked about the Sales Person Name who dealt with my car delivery ) and also the service history/details needs to be entered into the extended warranty booklet during each service

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Query : Fellow Polo owners and experienced car owners, please share your point of view.

I remember, when the car was new (< 1 month) :
4th gear @2000 rpm, speed = 60km / hr
5th gear @2000 rpm, speed = 80 km / hr

Recently, noticed :

4th gear @2000 rpm, speed = 55km / hr
5th gear @2000 rpm, speed = 70 km / hr

No difference in speed@rpm for 1st,2nd & 3rd gear though.

Please note the difference in speed at same rpm.
Is there anything I should be worried about ?
Car runs more smooth than before and no problems whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by Omega Man

Thank you Avon for your car detailing guide.

Here is a list of detailing products I bought:

I am unable to get the Jopasu Duster but anyways its not of much use in the rains. I just splash water on the car to remove most dust/dirt.

Next time you come to Pune, let me know few days in advance, I can arrange the Jopasu Duster for you.

Originally Posted by Omega Man

Wash
500ml Manual Spray & 1liter Hand Pump Spray Bottles
Microfibers & Chamois - 3M, Xstatic, Optimum, Others
Wash - Formula1 100 Washes - Wash & Wax

IMO, pure WASH product is sufficient and more relevant if one is using sealant/wax post wash, else wash-n-wax is preferable.

Originally Posted by Omega Man

Wax
Microfibers - 3M, Xstatic, Optimum, Others
Wax Applicator Pads
Formula1 Carnuba Car Wax
Collinite 845

Fantastic!, what else you need.
BTW, I`m no expert, still, would like to mention, better to have good quality Chamois to dry car after washing. Chamois is THE BEST followed by m/f cloth.

Originally Posted by Omega Man

Glass
Glass Wiper
Xstatic Optical Glass Cloth
Max FX Glass & Surface Cleaner Foam
Glass Science Glass Cleaner and Rain Repellent

Multiple options available in market, starting from regular imported (read Armorall etc glass cleaning product) to Foam based (Sonax made in Germany, etc).
However, from personal experience, Sonax concentrated liquid (25ml mixed with 2.5L of (mineral) water) is a fantastic product and I`m happy with the end result + collin is always available

Originally Posted by Omega Man

Tires
Armor All Ultra Shine Tire Foam
AJ Tyre Dress Express Applicator

Formula 1, Armorall, Meguiars, Motomax etc - all are easily available. However, IMO, more than shine, its benefecial to remove the stone chips stuck which eventually helps in lesser tire tread damage and longer tire life.

Originally Posted by Omega Man

Interiors
Carpet Brush
Planning to buy Collinite 855 for Leather/Vinyl/Dash

I can share what I follow -
a. Vaccum the interiors - IMO, the important step
b. Repeating : Formula1, Meguiars, Sonax or simply our desi product Waxpol once a month solves the purpose for dashboard, vinyl/plastic/rubber parts - to keep them soft and shining.

Originally Posted by Omega Man

Others
Storage Basket for the above
3M Adhesive remover

Sorry mate, no idea.

Originally Posted by Omega Man

I see a lot of Tar spots on the lower body of my car paint, even on the hood. Many have advised the use of WD-40 but I bought Min Cream which works really well but is time consuming as it cannot be applied all over the paint but just the tar marks. Also, a concentrate of Formula1 100 washes, is recommended to remove tar marks. Anything simpler than this?

Thats obvious, as the lower portion of the car is more prone to dust/tar. I have seen people using a soft cloth dipped in Kerosene to remove the more bonded contaminats from the lower parts of the car.

Better is : it may sound funny though, still taking the risk of sharing , whenever I return home after driving in rain, I make sure to dry the car using chamois/mf towel so that water droplets do not end-up creating unwanted marks on the car body. I have noticed, if I follow this, there is not much to worry about tar marks etc on the lower parts of the car.

Originally Posted by Omega Man

I was advised that Claying is not required for a new car. Will try out all these things this weekend and post the results. Cheers

This is not correct.

Claying is required to make ones car paint surface smooth.
Now, as per your post, what is the definition of new car - for eg. if I drive 5000kms in 02 months and similarly a car can be driven 5000kms in one year - so which one is new?

Bottom line is, use clay bar, if you feel roughness on the car body. Clay followed by sealant and wax will help maintain your car`s shine better than most so called professional treatment. This is from personal experience.

* The Superb Car Detailing Guide already available in Team-BHP with experts as regular contributors is the best source of information and suggestion (IMO) for car maintenance.

[Omega Man]

Originally Posted by AvonA7

Next time you come to Pune, let me know few days in advance, I can arrange the Jopasu Duster for you.

This is not correct.

Claying is required to make ones car paint surface smooth.
Now, as per your post, what is the definition of new car - for eg. if I drive 5000kms in 02 months and similarly a car can be driven 5000kms in one year - so which one is new?

Bottom line is, use clay bar, if you feel roughness on the car body. Clay followed by sealant and wax will help maintain your car`s shine better than most so called professional treatment. This is from personal experience.

* The Superb Car Detailing Guide already available in Team-BHP with experts as regular contributors is the best source of information and suggestion (IMO) for car maintenance.

Thanks a million Avon, sure I will PM you in advance next time I am to go to Pune.

[adimicra]

Originally Posted by AvonA7

Query : Fellow Polo owners and experienced car owners, please share your point of view.

I remember, when the car was new (< 1 month) :
4th gear @2000 rpm, speed = 60km / hr
5th gear @2000 rpm, speed = 80 km / hr

Recently, noticed :

4th gear @2000 rpm, speed = 55km / hr
5th gear @2000 rpm, speed = 70 km / hr

No difference in speed@rpm for 1st,2nd & 3rd gear though.

Please note the difference in speed at same rpm.
Is there anything I should be worried about ?
Car runs more smooth than before and no problems whatsoever.

Avon, with my limited gyan, this does not seem normal to me.
The speed attained at each gear depends on the gear ratios and that has not changed. So, why does the car attain lower speeds now than before as if the gearing is changed to shorter one?
I don't know the reason but should be investigated IMO.

[AvonA7]

Originally Posted by adimicra

Avon, with my limited gyan, this does not seem normal to me.
The speed attained at each gear depends on the gear ratios and that has not changed. So, why does the car attain lower speeds now than before as if the gearing is changed to shorter one?
I don't know the reason but should be investigated IMO.

Thanks Adi, yes, I too have the same impression (bold sentence). May be I’m giving too much importance to otherwise negligible things in my car and thinking about each and every unusual things noticed - I guess effect of Team-BHP to have the car 100% perfect, always

Frankly what I expected is to get the speed@rpm readings for Polo 1.2 Petrol to tally with my car readings.

And I do not know why these basic stats are not mentioned in the car manual for easy reference. It is good to have these stats, at least in the official car reviews of reputed car magazines.

Sharing the below readings based on the drives I took today for owner's like me who, may (un)-necessarily give importance to small things in their rides -

Originally Posted by AvonA7

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Query : Fellow Polo owners and experienced car owners, please share your point of view.

I remember, when the car was new (< 1 month) :
4th gear @2000 rpm, speed = 60km / hr
5th gear @2000 rpm, speed = 80 km / hr

Recently, noticed :

4th gear @2000 rpm, speed = 55km / hr
5th gear @2000 rpm, speed = 70 km / hr

No difference in speed@rpm for 1st,2nd & 3rd gear though.

Please note the difference in speed at same rpm.
Is there anything I should be worried about ?
Car runs more smooth than before and no problems whatsoever.

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The below readings based on the drives I took today on my car - 1.2L P Polo, TL & 1.2L P Polo, HL -

The below readings are noted as exactly the same in the above mentioned 02 cars -

• Idle (neutral)- max rpm with full throttle = 3.8K
• Idle (neutral)- max rpm without full throttle = 0.8K
• 2nd gear - speed@rpm - w/o accelerator/clutch stabilizes around - 10km/h@800
• 3rd gear - speed@rpm - w/o accelerator/clutch stabilizes around - 15km/h@800
• 4th gear - speed@rpm - w/o accelerator/clutch stabilizes around - 20km/h@800
• 5th gear - speed@rpm - w/o accelerator/clutch stabilizes around - 25km/h@800

The below readings are noted as same in both the cars -

3rd gear = 40km/hr = 2k rpm
4th gear @ 2.2Krpm = 60km/h
5th gear @ 2K rpm = 70km/h

In the end relieved to come to the conclusion that things are fine and nothing unusual in my car.


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BTW, ABS is one good thing to have in a car.
I was of the impression that Polo ride and handling at high speeds (>100km/h) is fantastic in my car (w/o ABS).
It was drizzling most of the day in Pune today, so roads were wet and slippery. While driving the HL (with ABS) realized how good the braking and handling can be with high specification tires and ABS - while braking at speeds over 100km/h on straight lines and on curves, the car felt much much more controlled at high speeds compared to my car (w/o ABS), its a must to have feature, IMO even if it costs some more 'M'.

[Reeto]

Great post AvonA7 and congratulations!!!
I'm in the market for VW OEM HU for my dad's Polo Trendline (booked last week), he is based in Kolkata, dealership is unable to offer what we want (they are offering 4 options all Kenwood, 1 of those 2 DIN). Nothing wrong with those, but personally I like the OEM HU much better. Can anyone help us? Thanks so much.

BTW I'm a new member (just got approved, yay!), have been following all of your posts for some time now, thank you all for this fantastic forum!

[Frontosa]

Originally Posted by Reeto

Great post AvonA7 and congratulations!!!
I'm in the market for VW OEM HU for my dad's Polo Trendline (booked last week), he is based in Kolkata, dealership is unable to offer what we want (they are offering 4 options all Kenwood, 1 of those 2 DIN). Nothing wrong with those, but personally I like the OEM HU much better. Can anyone help us? Thanks so much.

BTW I'm a new member (just got approved, yay!), have been following all of your posts for some time now, thank you all for this fantastic forum!

Depends , what is your budget. Please check the thread for these folks AnkitPrashar, chetan bg, and few recent ones. You could check mine as well "playing polo -on my black stallion" and see which you like.

[AvonA7]

Originally Posted by Reeto

Great post AvonA7 and congratulations!!!
I'm in the market for VW OEM HU for my dad's Polo Trendline (booked last week), he is based in Kolkata, dealership is unable to offer what we want (they are offering 4 options all Kenwood, 1 of those 2 DIN). Nothing wrong with those, but personally I like the OEM HU much better. Can anyone help us? Thanks so much.

BTW I'm a new member (just got approved, yay!), have been following all of your posts for some time now, thank you all for this fantastic forum!

Congratulations Reeto and welcome to Team-BHP.

As for your query -
dealership is unable to offer what we want (they are offering 4 options all Kenwood, 1 of those 2 DIN). Nothing wrong with those, but personally I like the OEM HU much better

Kenwood 2DIN as offered by VW showroom is not worth IMO, reason :
- twice the price
- almost same in terms of sound quality (output)
- OEM HU --> fit-n-finish is much better, I got the OEM HU at 10K with 04 speakers an year ago and the sound quality is very good, also in terms of fit-n-finish it looks better as its customized for Polo (not that HU available outside looks bad, but OEM ones are customized and hence integrate well with the dashboard and overall get-up of the car interiors especially with lights on )

No. of POLO`s delivered now a days are much more compared to an year ago.

Suggestion - Even for the time being if the OEM HU is not available with the particular dealership, chances are that it`ll be available sooner than later, keep in touch with the accessories guy in the dealership.

As you didn't mention your expectations about the audio setup in your car w.r.t. to sound quality/bass/treble/frequencies ... etc so I am not sure what exactly you are looking for - let me summarize in one sentence what I have experienced with OEM HU - for an average music buff its more than sufficient, its very good.

All the best and wish you many happy miles with your New POLO, enjoy your new ride and share your experience, its a fantastic car

[Chethan B G]

Originally Posted by Reeto

personally I like the OEM HU much better. Can anyone help us? Thanks so much.

BTW I'm a new member (just got approved, yay!), have been following all of your posts for some time now, thank you all for this fantastic forum!

Congrats and welcome Reeto.

I have an OEM HU with 4 speakers. Let me know if you are interested. You can PM me.

[AvonA7]

Polo completed one year this month. There were some occasional visits to the showroom for stone getting stuck in the brake caliper area, left side pulling, denting/painting for the minor scratches and to clarify few silly doubts (from myside) from the technicians at the dealer. All these issues resolved without any charges. Got the extended warranty for my Polo. Experience with Vidyut Motors so far is very good.

Car mostly ran within city limits with highway drive contributing ~30% of total KMs covered. Received couple of free summer/monsoon camps invitation from VW, didn't visit the dealer as there was no issue with the car and once probably out of station, but planning to visit if I receive the next invitation (may be during winter).

Bought a lot of products for car maintenance - from simple brush to rubbing compound/foam cleanser/wax/protectant/clay bars and the list goes on...! Outcome of using these products is very good and thanks to Team-BHP, especially all the members for sharing their experience on using different products and its outcome. It really looks and feels good seeing the car shining and that too from our own effort. But not so during monsoon where the shine may last only a minute if its bad luck

Checked tire pressure regularly once a week in petrol pumps. Highway 32 psi and city 30-31 psi maintained. Polo 1.2 P is fuel efficient, I have the entire figure of fueling-place/cost/trip/odo, some snapshot -

minimum FE - 11.1 km/ltr
maximum FE - 14.74 km/ltr
Average FE - 13.5 - 13.75 km/ltr within city limits
Never measured full highway FE - with highway (70%) + city (30%) = maximum received so far is 17.04 km/ltr

Driving wise, I have nothing more to add apart from what already has been mentioned in the official review and fellow BHPians reviews. Just like to mention that Apollo Acelere tires are very good, 1 puncture till date but by good I mean driving at speed at 70-80km/hrs in rains and it never skidded so far, road noise is not that serious and it depends on the surface mostly - concrete roads more noise, smooth tar roads hardly any noise.

Thats it I believe, nothing more to add.

01st paid service summary -

Booked an appointment by calling 10 days in advance, even though the dealership initially offered a date 2weeks later however bought it down to within a week. Left the car and collected next day as scheduled.

Issues reported - driver side power window sometimes refuses to function and again within 2 mins starts working fine, 1st-2nd-3rd gear is not that smooth what it used to be initially, screeching noise from brake for the initial 500mtrs after a cold start especially during rainy days.

After the service - driver side power window still refuses to function occasionally, screeching noise from brake for the initial few 100 mtrs present after driving in rains, gear operation is super smooth now.

Software upgrade/campaign - 4818, 57D7, 97U2, 97T9, rat bite proof coating (not sure where but was told that it is done to some wire), some chip installed.

Total cost of 01st paid service - 3745/- including 12.5%vat and all other taxes. KMs covered at the time of service 7915km.